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no babble at all, cupcake.
completely delusional babble ...ezra and nehemiah... 570 ad. ...ishmael. ...churchill ...COMPLETE MADDNESS
Just because you're too retarded too understand what hes talking about, doesn't make what he's saying irrelevant
You said it so beautifully .Anti-Semites hide behind the cloak of anti-Zionism because they think it somehow makes the ancient hatred more palatable .We see right through it.Wow! The anti - semitism is tangible in this room. To be an anti-zionist is to be an anti-semite. You people leave no doubt about it! I support Israel 4 square. I support Jerusalem as Israels Capitol. And like Ezra and Nehemiah I am fully in support of deporting everyone who doesn't belong there.
As Churchill said, Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. It was them that made her famous! Ha! Ha! Israel was reborn on May 14, 1948, folks. But Israel is over 4000 years old. Do you people understand that? There was no such thing as a Muslim 4000 years ago. Muhammad wasn't born until 570 AD. Let's be real here! Shall we? There were Philistines and that is what we have trying to steal Israeli land. Once again. But the G-d of Israel gave that land to Abraham and his descendants Isaac and Jacob and all the Jews who are there today are the children of Abraham. The Bible makes it clear in Genesis that God called Isaac the son of inheritance. Not Ishmael. So take it up with God. lol. Don't tell me! You don't believe in God!! Oh! I am just waiting for that one. King Solomon said the fool says in his heart there is no God! So feel free to reveal who you are here. I'm waiting. - Jeremiah
Useless comparison.Islamophobia is nothing but the fashionable modern cousin of good old anti-Semitism,
seeping from the same sewers of the collective unconscious,
exploiting the same old prejudices,
transferring to the Muslims all the hatred once directed towards the Jews.
Discuss, please
source: an ex knesset old soldier, wounded in 1948, uri avnery
Uri Avnery's weekly english article
I have been here just one week, now
In all that time, I have yet to see any post by a pro israeli zionist which is at all rational.
Only Irosie 91 will ever ever debate and discuss anything at all.
Anything even mildly critical of israel is met with a barrage of mindless insults
All they do is to post masses of crude propaganda from USA and israeli hate sites....ad nauseam
They slander peoples identity routinely and repeatedly and in groups like a gang; goebeels style
they HAVE no arguments at all.
It is hit shit and run, that's all they ever do
Roudy and Hossfly can be amusing, occasionally
Foreveryoung and Sayit aint quite so bad as the rest
And becauseI know is just as bad on the Arab side
But all the rational people here are the crttics of israel
are there any decent zionists out there?
will you please come forward and make this a decent place???
Zionism is a direct reaction to antisemitism;
first by the Tsars of Russia, then by Hitler
but they became siamese twins
and that's what they are here
Jeremiah falsely alleges: To be an anti-zionist is to be an anti-semiteWow! The anti - semitism is tangible in this room. To be an anti-zionist is to be an anti-semite. You people leave no doubt about it! I support Israel 4 square. I support Jerusalem as Israels Capitol. And like Ezra and Nehemiah I am fully in support of deporting everyone who doesn't belong there.
As Churchill said, Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. It was them that made her famous! Ha! Ha! Israel was reborn on May 14, 1948, folks. But Israel is over 4000 years old. Do you people understand that? There was no such thing as a Muslim 4000 years ago. Muhammad wasn't born until 570 AD. Let's be real here! Shall we? There were Philistines and that is what we have trying to steal Israeli land. Once again. But the G-d of Israel gave that land to Abraham and his descendants Isaac and Jacob and all the Jews who are there today are the children of Abraham. The Bible makes it clear in Genesis that God called Isaac the son of inheritance. Not Ishmael. So take it up with God. lol. Don't tell me! You don't believe in God!! Oh! I am just waiting for that one. King Solomon said the fool says in his heart there is no God! So feel free to reveal who you are here. I'm waiting. - Jeremiah
DEFINING ZIONISM AS SIMPLY RECOGNIZING ISRAEL RIGHT TO EXIST IS NONSENSE AND ISRAEL WAS BORN FROM TERRORISM NOT THE ASHES OF THE HOLOCAUST AND THE EVENTS OF WW2 TO NOT GIVE LICENSE TO VIOLATE OTHERS IN THE SAME MANNER
Anti-Zionists Holocaust Survivor - YouTube
welcome back famaturkDEFINING ZIONISM AS SIMPLY RECOGNIZING ISRAEL RIGHT TO EXIST IS NONSENSE AND ISRAEL WAS BORN FROM TERRORISM NOT THE ASHES OF THE HOLOCAUST AND THE EVENTS OF WW2 TO NOT GIVE LICENSE TO VIOLATE OTHERS IN THE SAME MANNER
Anti-Zionists Holocaust Survivor - YouTube
good definition ''exactly like Nazi's talking ''
why offended i did not say anything .. when someone critize about Jews why you behaving like you are under attack ? .. i did not mean all Jews like Nazis ... but in this forum you can see some examples being like Nazis... aof course there's fascist Turks too .. of course there's fascist Palestianians too .. the point ..Is it true that Israel doing now ?welcome back famaturkDEFINING ZIONISM AS SIMPLY RECOGNIZING ISRAEL RIGHT TO EXIST IS NONSENSE AND ISRAEL WAS BORN FROM TERRORISM NOT THE ASHES OF THE HOLOCAUST AND THE EVENTS OF WW2 TO NOT GIVE LICENSE TO VIOLATE OTHERS IN THE SAME MANNER
Anti-Zionists Holocaust Survivor - YouTube
good definition ''exactly like Nazi's talking ''
finished your thesis, seviglim?
The israelis are NOT abusing the pals in the way they were exterminated by Nazis, nor is any Israeli a nazi.
Israel is about ethnic cleansing, not genocide.
The Armenians were also mostly ethnically cleansed too rather than deliberately wiped out; that was a terrible side effect but not Turkey's actual intention.
If you think Israel is nazi, then so was Ottoman Turkey.
If Israel was nazi there would be no palestinians left; instead there are about 10 times as many as there were in 1948 all over the bloody world.
bloody useless nazis the israelis aint they!!
But very good at ethnic cleansing, stealing land and lying about it.
Better liars than you turks, by far.
famaturkwhy offended i did not say anything .. when someone critize about Jews why you behaving like you are under attack ? .. i did not mean all Jews like Nazis ... but in this forum you can see some examples being like Nazis... aof course there's fascist Turks too .. of course there's fascist Palestianians too .. the point ..Is it true that Israel doing now ?welcome back famaturkgood definition ''exactly like Nazi's talking ''
finished your thesis, seviglim?
The israelis are NOT abusing the pals in the way they were exterminated by Nazis, nor is any Israeli a nazi.
Israel is about ethnic cleansing, not genocide.
The Armenians were also mostly ethnically cleansed too rather than deliberately wiped out; that was a terrible side effect but not Turkey's actual intention.
If you think Israel is nazi, then so was Ottoman Turkey.
If Israel was nazi there would be no palestinians left; instead there are about 10 times as many as there were in 1948 all over the bloody world.
bloody useless nazis the israelis aint they!!
But very good at ethnic cleansing, stealing land and lying about it.
Better liars than you turks, by far.
Who are you meeting Kvech? Certainly not Zionists! I am a Zionist. As you identify yourself as an anti-Zionist you do understand that what you are saying is that Israel doesn't have a right to exist. This is very sad to hear. You see, Israel was birthed from the ashes of the holocaust. The ovens of Aushwitz and for this reason the price is too high, unable to calculate, indeed there is no price we can place on what the Jews sacrificed in order to have Israel returned to them. So as you can see there will be no Sovereign State of Palestine. Not now, not 100 years from now, not ever. Feel free to share your thoughts. The Jews have paid too high a price for this land to ever give it up. Let's investigate this claim of yours about Zionists! Ha! Ha! I find the very idea quite preposterous but as I am in the mood to be amused I'll discuss it with you. - Jeremiah
Who are you meeting Kvech? Certainly not Zionists! I am a Zionist. As you identify yourself as an anti-Zionist you do understand that what you are saying is that Israel doesn't have a right to exist. This is very sad to hear. You see, Israel was birthed from the ashes of the holocaust. The ovens of Aushwitz and for this reason the price is too high, unable to calculate, indeed there is no price we can place on what the Jews sacrificed in order to have Israel returned to them. So as you can see there will be no Sovereign State of Palestine. Not now, not 100 years from now, not ever. Feel free to share your thoughts. The Jews have paid too high a price for this land to ever give it up. Let's investigate this claim of yours about Zionists! Ha! Ha! I find the very idea quite preposterous but as I am in the mood to be amused I'll discuss it with you. - Jeremiah
Jeremiah, I take it you're Jewish?
if so, you should be careful when mentioning the Holocaust. People don't like to hear about it, they tend to think we believe the Holocaust (some will call it the HoloHOAX) is nothing but a card that the Jews like to use, they forget it was a real event that happened and took the lives of 6 million Kedoshim of Am Israel, of them mothers, sisters and brothers, grandfathers, uncles and nieces.
Those are scars from which they expect our nation for simply recover, and "how much more can you Jews talk about the Holocaust? blah blah blah" and all that.
So yeah, we should be careful when mentioning that.
Second fact is that, Palestine, what is it, anyway? The Arabs call themselves "Palestinians" though this words is meaningless, ever since 67' and even before. Who are the Palestinians? the Jews of the land of Israel at that time are also Palestinians, are they not?
"Palestine", originally "Falastin", is an ethos adopted by the Arabs who sat here, over the Philisitines who've sat here. But here's the catch. They are NOT Filisitines. They were ARAB nomads who immigrated in tribes, while the Felisitines were SAILORS originated from EUROPE.
so who are the Palestinians? What are they don't here, WHAT is their connection to the land called Judeah?
Who are you meeting Kvech? Certainly not Zionists! I am a Zionist. As you identify yourself as an anti-Zionist you do understand that what you are saying is that Israel doesn't have a right to exist. This is very sad to hear. You see, Israel was birthed from the ashes of the holocaust. The ovens of Aushwitz and for this reason the price is too high, unable to calculate, indeed there is no price we can place on what the Jews sacrificed in order to have Israel returned to them. So as you can see there will be no Sovereign State of Palestine. Not now, not 100 years from now, not ever. Feel free to share your thoughts. The Jews have paid too high a price for this land to ever give it up. Let's investigate this claim of yours about Zionists! Ha! Ha! I find the very idea quite preposterous but as I am in the mood to be amused I'll discuss it with you. - Jeremiah
Jeremiah, I take it you're Jewish?
if so, you should be careful when mentioning the Holocaust. People don't like to hear about it, they tend to think we believe the Holocaust (some will call it the HoloHOAX) is nothing but a card that the Jews like to use, they forget it was a real event that happened and took the lives of 6 million Kedoshim of Am Israel, of them mothers, sisters and brothers, grandfathers, uncles and nieces.
Those are scars from which they expect our nation for simply recover, and "how much more can you Jews talk about the Holocaust? blah blah blah" and all that.
So yeah, we should be careful when mentioning that.
Second fact is that, Palestine, what is it, anyway? The Arabs call themselves "Palestinians" though this words is meaningless, ever since 67' and even before. Who are the Palestinians? the Jews of the land of Israel at that time are also Palestinians, are they not?
"Palestine", originally "Falastin", is an ethos adopted by the Arabs who sat here, over the Philisitines who've sat here. But here's the catch. They are NOT Filisitines. They were ARAB nomads who immigrated in tribes, while the Felisitines were SAILORS originated from EUROPE.
so who are the Palestinians? What are they don't here, WHAT is their connection to the land called Judeah?
I don't think that reminding us about the Holocaust and its relationship to Zionism...You are right the Holocaust took the lives of many relatives of people I have met...That's why I support a safe-haven for Jews and hope they realize that the only way to survive in the long-run is intergration with the Palestinians...
You of course Lipush are a right-wing Zionist who seeks seperation by going into the religious marlarkey of god-given land bullshiite.
The filistines, the Palestians don't exist, blah blah blah...refusing to deal with the truth.
Jeremiah, I take it you're Jewish?
if so, you should be careful when mentioning the Holocaust. People don't like to hear about it, they tend to think we believe the Holocaust (some will call it the HoloHOAX) is nothing but a card that the Jews like to use, they forget it was a real event that happened and took the lives of 6 million Kedoshim of Am Israel, of them mothers, sisters and brothers, grandfathers, uncles and nieces.
Those are scars from which they expect our nation for simply recover, and "how much more can you Jews talk about the Holocaust? blah blah blah" and all that.
So yeah, we should be careful when mentioning that.
Second fact is that, Palestine, what is it, anyway? The Arabs call themselves "Palestinians" though this words is meaningless, ever since 67' and even before. Who are the Palestinians? the Jews of the land of Israel at that time are also Palestinians, are they not?
"Palestine", originally "Falastin", is an ethos adopted by the Arabs who sat here, over the Philisitines who've sat here. But here's the catch. They are NOT Filisitines. They were ARAB nomads who immigrated in tribes, while the Felisitines were SAILORS originated from EUROPE.
so who are the Palestinians? What are they don't here, WHAT is their connection to the land called Judeah?
I don't think that reminding us about the Holocaust and its relationship to Zionism...You are right the Holocaust took the lives of many relatives of people I have met...That's why I support a safe-haven for Jews and hope they realize that the only way to survive in the long-run is intergration with the Palestinians...
You of course Lipush are a right-wing Zionist who seeks seperation by going into the religious marlarkey of god-given land bullshiite.
The filistines, the Palestians don't exist, blah blah blah...refusing to deal with the truth.
Bring a proof that the philisitines are the Palestinians.
Saying I'm a rightists zionists whatever, doesn't mean my statement isn't accurate.
So bashing won't be a proving me wrong thing
"Zionism" does not mean the same thing as "Israel's right to exist" but, I believe that the statement that was made is that often, the notion of "anti-zionist" is a way of denying Israel's right to exist. Can one be an anti-zionist and still accept Israel's right to exist? If the answer is "no" then there is little that can be had in the way of rational discourse as the two sides cannot agree on a specific and necessary premise to be a platform for debate and discussion.
[www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE]Israeli Minister "We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust" - YouTube
FYI, PBelI don't think that reminding us about the Holocaust and its relationship to Zionism...You are right the Holocaust took the lives of many relatives of people I have met...That's why I support a safe-haven for Jews and hope they realize that the only way to survive in the long-run is intergration with the Palestinians...
You of course Lipush are a right-wing Zionist who seeks seperation by going into the religious marlarkey of god-given land bullshiite.
The filistines, the Palestians don't exist, blah blah blah...refusing to deal with the truth.
Bring a proof that the philisitines are the Palestinians.
Saying I'm a rightists zionists whatever, doesn't mean my statement isn't accurate.
So bashing won't be a proving me wrong thing
Bashing? Why don't you post a link that proves that the Arabs who lived in an area now called Israel did not exist? Did the Jewish people exist when there was no Israel?
You religious people are the worst warmongers using fantasies to justify yiour wars.
Amin Al Husseini: Nazi Father of Jihad, Al Qaeda, Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood - Tell The Children The Truth - HomepageDEFINING ZIONISM AS SIMPLY RECOGNIZING ISRAEL RIGHT TO EXIST IS NONSENSE AND ISRAEL WAS BORN FROM TERRORISM NOT THE ASHES OF THE HOLOCAUST AND THE EVENTS OF WW2 TO NOT GIVE LICENSE TO VIOLATE OTHERS IN THE SAME MANNER
Anti-Zionists Holocaust Survivor - YouTube
good definition ''exactly like Nazi's talking ''
let me try and make peace here; shed more light than heat about the PhiliiistinesFYI, PBelBring a proof that the philisitines are the Palestinians.
Saying I'm a rightists zionists whatever, doesn't mean my statement isn't accurate.
So bashing won't be a proving me wrong thing
Bashing? Why don't you post a link that proves that the Arabs who lived in an area now called Israel did not exist? Did the Jewish people exist when there was no Israel?
You religious people are the worst warmongers using fantasies to justify yiour wars.
Jews to no one's land
"Zionism" does not mean the same thing as "Israel's right to exist" but, I believe that the statement that was made is that often, the notion of "anti-zionist" is a way of denying Israel's right to exist. Can one be an anti-zionist and still accept Israel's right to exist? If the answer is "no" then there is little that can be had in the way of rational discourse as the two sides cannot agree on a specific and necessary premise to be a platform for debate and discussion.
[www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE]Israeli Minister "We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust" - YouTube
Gee, thanks for the non-answer. When you start to use real words and maybe even original thoughts, feel free to let me know.