Why are all the Zionists here the same as anti-semites??

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_SBPRX4Abc]Buju Banton - Our Father In Zion - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eots]

well this ol fairy story says...

Christ will remove all born-again believers from the earth in an event known as the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-54). At the judgment seat of Christ, these believers will be rewarded for good works and faithful service during their time on earth or will lose rewards, but not eternal life, for lack of service and obedience (1 Corinthians 3:11-15; 2 Corinthians 5:10).

The Antichrist (the beast) will come into power and will sign a covenant with Israel for seven years (Daniel 9:27). This seven-year period of time is known as the “tribulation.” During the tribulation, there will be terrible wars, famines, plagues, and natural disasters. God will be pouring out His wrath against sin, evil, and wickedness. The tribulation will include the appearance of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse, and the seven seal, trumpet, and bowl judgments.

About halfway through the seven years, the Antichrist will break the peace covenant with Israel and make war against it. The Antichrist will commit “the abomination of desolation” and set up an image of himself to be worshipped in the Jerusalem temple (Daniel 9:27; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-10), which will have been rebuilt. The second half of the tribulation is known as “the great tribulation” (Revelation 7:14) and “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7).

At the end of the seven-year tribulation, the Antichrist will launch a final attack on Jerusalem, culminating in the battle of Armageddon. Jesus Christ will return, destroy the Antichrist and his armies, and cast them into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:11-21). Christ will then bind Satan in the Abyss for 1000 years and He will rule His earthly kingdom for this thousand-year period (Revelation 20:1-6).

At the end of the thousand years, Satan will be released, defeated again, and then cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:7-10) for eternity. Christ then judges all unbelievers (Revelation 20:10-15) at the great white throne judgment, casting them all into the lake of fire. Christ will then usher in a new heaven and new earth and the New Jerusalem—the eternal dwelling place of believers. There will be no more sin, sorrow, or death (Revelation 21–22).


Israel will finally recognize Jesus as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10). Israel will be regenerated, restored, and regathered (Jeremiah 33:8; Ezekiel 11:17; Romans 11:26).


So there !



What is Israel's role in the end times?

 

[ima]

the herzl invented zionism myth is as firmly entrenched in the minds of islamo nazis as the deicide myth was entrenched in the mind of queen isabella of spain

for those who do not know----rishon le tzion-----a city founded by "early to zion" people was founded when herzl was an infant. Your myth makes no sense

it makes far more sense than your rambling discourse and references to lifestyle

Zionism IS a lifestyle. a way of life.

Hating and killing arabs must be a nice way of life.

 

[YKohen]

Arabs hate and kill FAR more Arabs than Israelis do.

 

[ima]

Arabs hate and kill FAR more Arabs than Israelis do.

That's just a bonus.

 

[Lipush]

it makes far more sense than your rambling discourse and references to lifestyle

Zionism IS a lifestyle. a way of life.

Hating and killing arabs must be a nice way of life.

Zionism has nothing to do with hating Arabs. Zionism is not at all about Arabs.

 

[ima]

Zionism IS a lifestyle. a way of life.

Hating and killing arabs must be a nice way of life.

Zionism has nothing to do with hating Arabs. Zionism is not at all about Arabs.

Wake up, sheesh! Zionism is about taking land by force and expelling arabs one by one.

 

[YKohen]

Hating and killing arabs must be a nice way of life.

Zionism has nothing to do with hating Arabs. Zionism is not at all about Arabs.

Wake up, sheesh! Zionism is about taking land by force and expelling arabs one by one.

Wow! by YOUR definition, Zionism sure has been a failure. There are all those Arabs here, and we only have 1/10th of 1% of the Middle East.

Luckily, we Zionists don't use YOUR definition, and consequently, Zionism has been a HUGE success.

 

[pbel]

utter nonsense...

If you think that's nonsense, you obviously know nothing about Zionistm OR Judaism to start with.

Saying Hertzl "invented" Zionism is laughable and rediculous.

Any Jew will agree with me on that one.

You're way over your head in this discussion, no offense.

i agree with you, Lipushi

if anyone invented zionism, it was Moses

But since Moses is probably not a historical person

It was the person or people who created the legend of Moses

this is a new view for me which Rosie has helped me develop

She said Zionism is as old as judaism and that persuaded me to stop being a self hatin jew and accept the true value of zionism

and restrict my kvetchin to theft or klepto zionism

wonderful Obama won the election...I have been up all night watching it

shalom and ha tikva

What you and Rosie talk about is correct in saying that the religious myth of Zionism as a religion predated the idea of European Zionism...Sure Moses being and Egyptian Prince had the opportunity to rebel against the pagan religions in Egypt and take the Israelites out of bondage....The difference is that the religious idea of Zionism does not coincide with European Zionism which saw the horror of the Holocausts decided through their military powers declare a safe-haven for the Jewish people...a Secular motive.

The Zionism supported by most of the known world is an Israeli State and an Arab State...I think that Barak Obama is going to finally get Israel to adopt that position...the Secular one.

 

[irosie91]

wrong again Peeballs------Israel as a viable state existed long before your beloved hero Adolf Abu Ali Hitler was born It already had hospitals, Colleges Social institutions and new cities popping up here and there.
can you describe these "JEWISH EUROPEAN ARMIES" that entered palestine? ------uhm-----the almost dead survivors of the camps----or perhaps you are referring to the almost dead suvivors of islamic oppression. There is a literature. you know------Israel also had quite an impressive medical community that actually wrote papers and kept records before 1948
Feel free to ask questions

 

[ima]

Zionism has nothing to do with hating Arabs. Zionism is not at all about Arabs.

Wake up, sheesh! Zionism is about taking land by force and expelling arabs one by one.

Wow! by YOUR definition, Zionism sure has been a failure. There are all those Arabs here, and we only have 1/10th of 1% of the Middle East.

Luckily, we Zionists don't use YOUR definition, and consequently, Zionism has been a HUGE success.

I agree, zionism has been a pretty huge success so far. Keep up the thieving and pillaging, you'll get there.

 

[rosends]

What you and Rosie talk about is correct in saying that the religious myth of Zionism as a religion predated the idea of European Zionism...Sure Moses being and Egyptian Prince had the opportunity to rebel against the pagan religions in Egypt and take the Israelites out of bondage....The difference is that the religious idea of Zionism does not coincide with European Zionism which saw the horror of the Holocausts decided through their military powers declare a safe-haven for the Jewish people...a Secular motive.

The Zionism supported by most of the known world is an Israeli State and an Arab State...I think that Barak Obama is going to finally get Israel to adopt that position...the Secular one.

The tension arises because the state is both religious and secular at the same time. The founders, though generally secularists, did not abandon religious aspects and heritage in the founding and legislating of life in Israel. The religious idea of Zionism is also very complex and has evolved over the last couple of millenia (and, in fact, though it is called "religious" it started as political zionism simply based in a theocracy) and, though there are fringe elements of Judaism whose religious zionism does not overlap at all with modern political zionism, for most Jewry, the two share many tenets and values.

 

[docmauser1]

Hating and killing arabs must be a nice way of life.

Arabs are lousy agnostics.

 

[pbel]

wrong again Peeballs------Israel as a viable state existed long before your beloved hero Adolf Abu Ali Hitler was born It already had hospitals, Colleges Social institutions and new cities popping up here and there.
can you describe these "JEWISH EUROPEAN ARMIES" that entered palestine? ------uhm-----the almost dead survivors of the camps----or perhaps you are referring to the almost dead suvivors of islamic oppression. There is a literature. you know------Israel also had quite an impressive medical community that actually wrote papers and kept records before 1948
Feel free to ask questions

I wish we could start a viral tweet for you...You make it quite clear how difficult a peace or a two state solution will be,and a zealot of religious nationalists like you and NutandYahoo who control Israel.

I smell change in Israel.

 

[kvetch]

wrong again Peeballs------Israel as a viable state existed long before your beloved hero Adolf Abu Ali Hitler was born It already had hospitals, Colleges Social institutions and new cities popping up here and there.
can you describe these "JEWISH EUROPEAN ARMIES" that entered palestine? ------uhm-----the almost dead survivors of the camps----or perhaps you are referring to the almost dead suvivors of islamic oppression. There is a literature. you know------Israel also had quite an impressive medical community that actually wrote papers and kept records before 1948
Feel free to ask questions

I wish we could start a viral tweet for you...You make it quite clear how difficult a peace or a two state solution will be,and a zealot of religious nationalists like you and NutandYahoo who control Israel.

I smell change in Israel.

change for sure is the only constant

but that truly faustian pact (selling your soul to the devil for a false promise of power)

lbetween nyet yahoo and biebermann looks like a drastic lurch even further to the right

towards disaster all round, dont it??

 

[irosie91]

no events will be mediated by the turmoil ------in THE ARAB SPRING

 

[YKohen]

Wake up, sheesh! Zionism is about taking land by force and expelling arabs one by one.

Wow! by YOUR definition, Zionism sure has been a failure. There are all those Arabs here, and we only have 1/10th of 1% of the Middle East.

Luckily, we Zionists don't use YOUR definition, and consequently, Zionism has been a HUGE success.

I agree, zionism has been a pretty huge success so far. Keep up the thieving and pillaging, you'll get there.

Again, because we don't do it your way ("thieving and pillaging"), it has been a success- and will continue to be.

We don't want to be like all of our neighbors, for whom thieving and pillaging is a way of life. We're content to be the villa in the jungle that we are.

 

[irosie91]

For successful murdering, thieving, raping and pillaging-----see the handbook-----AL KORAN and review the GLORIOUS AGE OF ISLAMIC CONQUEST--------and ---more lately the Biafran, East Pakistanin, Armenian --etc etc etc Genocides the populations of -----the ''others'' certainly did not rise------in some cases the WHOLE PROBLEM WAS "SOLVED" ----Adolf abu ali------tried to emulate al nabi------but ----was not even close in SUCCESS in the FINAL SOLUTION issue as was al nabi in arabia----<<< a land which was later considered "holy" by his ass lickers for the HOLY FEAT OF COMPREHENSIVE GENOCIDE

 

[ima]

Wow! by YOUR definition, Zionism sure has been a failure. There are all those Arabs here, and we only have 1/10th of 1% of the Middle East.

Luckily, we Zionists don't use YOUR definition, and consequently, Zionism has been a HUGE success.

I agree, zionism has been a pretty huge success so far. Keep up the thieving and pillaging, you'll get there.

Again, because we don't do it your way ("thieving and pillaging"), it has been a success- and will continue to be.

We don't want to be like all of our neighbors, for whom thieving and pillaging is a way of life. We're content to be the villa in the jungle that we are.

Just saying, but if I was in charge of Israel, I'd seriously try to find a peaceful solution agreeable to everyone... before Iran starts making nukes. Just saying.

 

[YKohen]

I agree, zionism has been a pretty huge success so far. Keep up the thieving and pillaging, you'll get there.

Again, because we don't do it your way ("thieving and pillaging"), it has been a success- and will continue to be.

We don't want to be like all of our neighbors, for whom thieving and pillaging is a way of life. We're content to be the villa in the jungle that we are.

Just saying, but if I was in charge of Israel, I'd seriously try to find a peaceful solution agreeable to everyone... before Iran starts making nukes. Just saying.

We tried. They're not interested. Iran couldn't care less either way.

As to Iranian nukes, I don't think we will have to worry about them.