Zone1 WHUUUUUT??!$!#! corrupt mr Zelensky wants to take back crimea?

[peacefan]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/03/europe/zelensky-ukraine-putin-erin-burnett-interview-intl-cmd/index.html

Zelensky told Burnett that his ultimate goal was to liberate Crimea, (CNN presumably: )"the peninsula annexed by Russia in 2014 in violation of international law."

here we see the ultimate territorial greed by NATO and the EU displayed in "brave mr Zelensky's publicly stated goals".
a sea (the Black Sea) with connection at Turkey to the Medditeranean Sea and thus The Atlantic,
control of which is vital to the defense of Russia itself,
was taken from Russia via the principles of media manipulation, political manipulations and voting results manipulations in Ukraine (by The West, in the 2000s and 2010s probably, but before that as well).

and now that Russia finally stepped in and liberated the Russian native speakers in that region, who clearly indicated in several referendums that they wanted to be a part of Russia,
as well as that naval base, and while Zelensky is losing his war to regain control over his old border territories,
i do suspect the US Democrats to be supporting mr Zelensky for another round of war, that has no doubt proven very profitable for the insiders at the top, and more and more rounds (years!) of war.
juuuuust great. NOT!

 

[johngaltshrugged]

Zelensky is an insane hobbit.
He's the court jester for the NWO.
Ukraine can't even retake the territory they have already lost unless NATO escalates this to WWIII

 

[1srelluc]

LOL....Good luck with all that.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Where is the Ukrainian Prigozhin to liberate Ukraine from this WEF Puppet?

 

[shockedcanadian]

All your base are belong to us!

 

[rightwinger]

Crimea May be easier to take back than the rest of the Donbas

Harder to defend, easier to cut off

 

[shockedcanadian]

Crimea May be easier to take back than the rest of the Donbas

Harder to defend, easier to cut off

By this logic, why take what you can't defend though? I'm not a military expert, but this isn't a video game, people die.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Death is a game in which Zelensky and his people are engaged.

The can take back Crimea easily if they are willing to pay the price.

 

[rightwinger]

By this logic, why take what you can't defend though? I'm not a military expert, but this isn't a video game, people die.

Somebody needs to explain that to Putin

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Death is a game in which Zelensky and his people are engaged.

The can take back Crimea easily if they are willing to pay the price.

^ don't listen to him!! He's worse than Zelen$ky whose already got 250,000 young men killed

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The people of Crimea will fight Ukraine to the last heartbeat.

 

[peacefan]

Crimea May be easier to take back than the rest of the Donbas

Harder to defend, easier to cut off

the Russians have roads and railroads leading to that naval base of theirs in Crimea, from the south of Russia into the east side of the sea of Azov, then west into Crimea.
and they're attached to them. they've kept the Black Sea fleet of the Russians supplied and under repair during the entire war so far, despite (of course) casualties on both sides.

 

[rightwinger]

the russians have roads and railroads leading to that naval base of theirs in Crimea.

Military targets

 

[JohnDB]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/03/europe/zelensky-ukraine-putin-erin-burnett-interview-intl-cmd/index.html

here we see the ultimate territorial greed by NATO and the EU displayed in "brave mr Zelensky's publicly stated goals".
a sea (the Black Sea) with connection at Turkey to the Medditeranean Sea and thus The Atlantic,
control of which is vital to the defense of Russia itself,
was taken from Russia via the principles of media manipulation, political manipulations and voting results manipulations in Ukraine (by The West, in the 2000s and 2010s probably, but before that as well).

and now that Russia finally stepped in and liberated the Russian native speakers in that region, who clearly indicated in several referendums that they wanted to be a part of Russia,
as well as that naval base, and while Zelensky is losing his war to regain control over his old border territories,
i do suspect the US Democrats to be supporting mr Zelensky for another round of war, that has no doubt proven very profitable for the insiders at the top, and more and more rounds (years!) of war.
juuuuust great. NOT!

Sorry,
My mistake....I thought that maybe you wanted a real discussion instead of shouting rhetoric.

Carry on. I'll move along.

 

[alang1216]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/03/europe/zelensky-ukraine-putin-erin-burnett-interview-intl-cmd/index.html

here we see the ultimate territorial greed by NATO and the EU displayed in "brave mr Zelensky's publicly stated goals".
a sea (the Black Sea) with connection at Turkey to the Medditeranean Sea and thus The Atlantic,
control of which is vital to the defense of Russia itself,
was taken from Russia via the principles of media manipulation, political manipulations and voting results manipulations in Ukraine (by The West, in the 2000s and 2010s probably, but before that as well).

Crimea was negotiated away by Russia but then taken by force. Is that the NWO you want?

and now that Russia finally stepped in and liberated the Russian native speakers in that region, who clearly indicated in several referendums that they wanted to be a part of Russia,
as well as that naval base, and while Zelensky is losing his war to regain control over his old border territories,
i do suspect the US Democrats to be supporting mr Zelensky for another round of war, that has no doubt proven very profitable for the insiders at the top, and more and more rounds (years!) of war.
juuuuust great. NOT!

None of the 'referendums' has had international sanction.

 

[peacefan]

Sorry,
My mistake....I thought that maybe you wanted a real discussion instead of shouting rhetoric.

Carry on. I'll move along.

it's a simple provocative, truth-based account of what happened in the decades leading up to the Ukraine war, and during it.
it's designed to provoke challenges to the logic it contains, like most of my posts on this forum do.

 

[peacefan]

Crimea was negotiated away by Russia but then taken by force. Is that the NWO you want?

better to give some land away to demanding yet powerful fellow humans from nearby those lands,
than almost-perpetual war.

None of the 'referendums' has had international sanction.

yeah, surpriiiiiise! another piece of evidence that the US and EU administrations were on a corrupt path in Ukraine from 2000 onwards.
maybe even from the 1990s or 1980s (when the Berlin wall fell).

 

[peacefan]

Military targets

you must like the idea of war.
but i don't support your desires for a WW3. sorry.

 

[rightwinger]

you must like the idea of war.
but i don't support your desires for a WW3. sorry.

Tell it to Putin

 

[JohnDB]

it's a simple provocative, truth-based account of what happened in the decades leading up to the Ukraine war, and during it.
it's designed to provoke challenges to the logic it contains, like most of my posts on this forum do.

Well you don't start out with inciting rhetoric that is not factual or truthful. Not with me.