Who were the seducees of the Gospels?

[anotherlife]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

 

[Ringel05]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Sadducees........

 

[Ringel05]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

 

[Picaro]

Sadducees were the old nobility, with inherited offices and wealth, Pharisees were a sect that gained power late, and were more popular with the general population, the ones who were scribes began to take over the courts. Not all Pharisees were scribes, but all scribes were Pharisees. As a sect they were big on apocalyptic literature, and their influence on Christianity is seen in Paul's ministry, he was a Pharisee, and John was also probably one. The Sadducees' last gasp was starting up a rebellion against the Romans, but that got taken over by Pharisees, and the result was the Temple got burned down and they got kicked out of Jerusalem, essentially.

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

For an excellent history on Jewish culture and political structure in the time of Jesus, get a copy of Joachim Jeremia's Jerusalem in the Time of Jesus; it's the best scholarly work around, heavily sourced and foot noted, which can make for dense reading in parts, but it;s fairly comprehensive and covers Pharisees, Sadducee, and everybody else. there is a free online edition somewhere, but I forgot where and can't find the bookmark at the moment, if I even made one. You can find reviews online via a search.

 

[irosie91]

pic, essentially, HAS NO IDEA

 

[fncceo]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Sadducees........

Isn't that another word for succubi?

 

[irosie91]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Sadducees........

Isn't that another word for succubi?

"succubi"??? is that the sect of the charlatan jerk ---Joachim Jeremia?

 

[irosie91]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

ringel----hold onto your day job

 

[Ringel05]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Sadducees........

Isn't that another word for succubi?

Ask Unk........ He's supposedly the Etymologist.......

 

[Ringel05]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

 

[irosie91]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

try a different site. Keep IN MIND----Jesus was a Pharisee----he despised the
Sadducees

 

[Ringel05]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

try a different site. Keep IN MIND----Jesus was a Pharisee----he despised the
Sadducees

I tried about 6 or 7 different sites, Jewish and Christian.

 

[Picaro]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

try a different site. Keep IN MIND----Jesus was a Pharisee----he despised the
Sadducees

I tried about 6 or 7 different sites, Jewish and Christian.

they were the post-exilic nobility, the racial supremacists financed and supported by Cyrus, complete with fake family genealogies they used to generally dis-enfranchise Jews who weren't a part of 'The Club', those that weren't exiled in the surrounding regions. They didn't call themselves 'Sadducee' from the beginning, it gradually evolved into a social class;their beginning roots are explained in Esdra-Nehemiah. Basically, they organized to plunder other Jews and pilgrims from 'out of town' when Cyrus built them a Temple to play in.

 

[irosie91]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

try a different site. Keep IN MIND----Jesus was a Pharisee----he despised the
Sadducees

I tried about 6 or 7 different sites, Jewish and Christian.

BS ^^^

 

[irosie91]

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

try a different site. Keep IN MIND----Jesus was a Pharisee----he despised the
Sadducees

I tried about 6 or 7 different sites, Jewish and Christian.

they were the post-exilic nobility, the racial supremacists financed and supported by Cyrus, complete with fake family genealogies they used to generally dis-enfranchise Jews who weren't a part of 'The Club', those that weren't exiled in the surrounding regions. They didn't call themselves 'Sadducee' from the beginning, it gradually evolved into a social class;their beginning roots are explained in Esdra-Nehemiah. Basically, they organized to plunder other Jews and pilgrims from 'out of town' when Cyrus built them a Temple to play in.

wrong again------the SADDUCEES were ---very simply----greek shills. Remember ALEXANDER conquered the world -------gee you are dim. THEN when the greek worshipping romans came along-----the sadducees WORSHIPPED THE ROMAN CULTURE. There was no reason to worship Cyrus-----he was not the type

 

[Picaro]

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

try a different site. Keep IN MIND----Jesus was a Pharisee----he despised the
Sadducees

I tried about 6 or 7 different sites, Jewish and Christian.

they were the post-exilic nobility, the racial supremacists financed and supported by Cyrus, complete with fake family genealogies they used to generally dis-enfranchise Jews who weren't a part of 'The Club', those that weren't exiled in the surrounding regions. They didn't call themselves 'Sadducee' from the beginning, it gradually evolved into a social class;their beginning roots are explained in Esdra-Nehemiah. Basically, they organized to plunder other Jews and pilgrims from 'out of town' when Cyrus built them a Temple to play in.

wrong again------the SADDUCEES were ---very simply----greek shills. Remember ALEXANDER conquered the world -------gee you are dim. THEN when the greek worshipping romans came along-----the sadducees WORSHIPPED THE ROMAN CULTURE. There was no reason to worship Cyrus-----he was not the type

lol says the Xian hater who claims Jesus was a Pharisee. I know all about the post-exile histories, so don't pretend you can dispute what I said. In fact, the returnees claimed Cyrus was their Messiah, so of course they loved him for setting them up in plush jobs and political offices.

 

[Picaro]

The apostolic letters say, that the Pharisees believed in the spirit and an afterlife, the seducees didn't. So, can we consider the seducees the forerunners of statism and socialism? And were the seducees truthful in their believes, or did they just publish this to fool outsiders, but amongst themselves they did believe the same as the Pharisees?

Sadducees........

Isn't that another word for succubi?

"succubi"??? is that the sect of the charlatan jerk ---Joachim Jeremia?

Poor Rosie; us unwshed goyim aren't supposed to be able to find out what the racial supremacist Jews set up by Cyrus to be his butt boys really were all about.

 

[Ringel05]

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

try a different site. Keep IN MIND----Jesus was a Pharisee----he despised the
Sadducees

I tried about 6 or 7 different sites, Jewish and Christian.

they were the post-exilic nobility, the racial supremacists financed and supported by Cyrus, complete with fake family genealogies they used to generally dis-enfranchise Jews who weren't a part of 'The Club', those that weren't exiled in the surrounding regions. They didn't call themselves 'Sadducee' from the beginning, it gradually evolved into a social class;their beginning roots are explained in Esdra-Nehemiah. Basically, they organized to plunder other Jews and pilgrims from 'out of town' when Cyrus built them a Temple to play in.

Oh yeah I almost forgot, you're of "those". Dismissed out of hand.

 

[Ringel05]

Think of the Pharisees as the old guard, the status quo, the Sadducees challenged their grip on power by rejecting most all of what the Pharisees taught primarily for political reasons.

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

try a different site. Keep IN MIND----Jesus was a Pharisee----he despised the
Sadducees

I tried about 6 or 7 different sites, Jewish and Christian.

BS ^^^

I'm a historian, I don't use single sources so BS yourself.

 

[Ringel05]

ringel----hold onto your day job

Don't have one besides that's what the religious history sites say.

try a different site. Keep IN MIND----Jesus was a Pharisee----he despised the
Sadducees

I tried about 6 or 7 different sites, Jewish and Christian.

they were the post-exilic nobility, the racial supremacists financed and supported by Cyrus, complete with fake family genealogies they used to generally dis-enfranchise Jews who weren't a part of 'The Club', those that weren't exiled in the surrounding regions. They didn't call themselves 'Sadducee' from the beginning, it gradually evolved into a social class;their beginning roots are explained in Esdra-Nehemiah. Basically, they organized to plunder other Jews and pilgrims from 'out of town' when Cyrus built them a Temple to play in.

wrong again------the SADDUCEES were ---very simply----greek shills. Remember ALEXANDER conquered the world -------gee you are dim. THEN when the greek worshipping romans came along-----the sadducees WORSHIPPED THE ROMAN CULTURE. There was no reason to worship Cyrus-----he was not the type

Your bias concerning the Sadducees is duly noted.