Who is God? Use the Bible only.

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    I recall reading recently in the Genesis that Moses asked God who he was, and God told Moses "I am who I am."
     
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    Hebrew language has a total of 8,198 words while English has about 170,000 words currently in use, and over a million words total. Also, English is a subjective language, while Hebrew uses pictures. Hebrew scholars point out that not only does the word 'us' mean a crowd, it can also designate great power. So, was the author of Genesis presenting God as many, or as a being of great power bringing life into existence? In context it appears to be the latter.

    The word for 'hate' also serves more than one purpose, and usually emotion of hate is secondary. Hate can mean 'reject'; less strongly it can mean (in the case of Esau) 'put second'.

    We cannot read the Bible in English through a modern 21st century perspective and gain a realistic understanding of it when it was written thousands of years ago in another language for a people who had an entirely different perspective than we have today.

    My favorite Biblical depiction of God comes from Kings. God did not show Himself in powerful events, but as a tiny whispering sound. It reminds me God is best found--not in the powerful events that we regard in awe from a distance--but rather He can be found in the tiny events of one's own life/existence.
     
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    Well, for this discussion we are using the Bible. If you want to just make up random stuff then go ahead I suppose.
     
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    Feel free to make up stuff. I think that is what everybody else in here is doing. It was my dumb idea for people to be honest and accurate.
     
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    You mean like trying to prove God is the exact opposite of how The authors of the OT saw God?

    Yes, that is super dumb.
     
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    I worry for your soul, bro.
     
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    Nothing still?
     
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    Then it might even include those who claim Adam and Eve saw God in the Garden.
     
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    Well. I wanted to keep the discussion honest but I am outnumbered. All of the participants here hate the God in the Bible. They have created their own. I call hypocritical if you and other Christian's are allowed to passionately hate God but when an atheist hates God it is somehow bad.

    That is some straight up bull shit.
     
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    What's the difference between asking who God is from the perspective of the Bible and asking who God is from the perspective of the writers of the Bible?
     

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