RoccoR
Gold Member
P F Tinmore, et al,
This is not at all accurate.
None of the territory under question, was surrendered by the Ottoman Empire to the Palestinians --- or any of the other Arab contingents. The Ottoman/Turks relinquished it all to the Principle Allied Powers.
The territory was divided up by the Allied Powers into Mandates. Each Mandate would assume governmental responsibilities of the respective territories.
In 1948, Israel fought its War of Independence (WoI), for it right to self-determination --- as guided by the hand of the United Nations, under A/RES/181(II). What the consequences of that WoI was, included four separate and distinctive Armistice Arrangements with the parties to the conflict; along the forward edge of the battle area.
Included in the outcomes, the West Bank was taken by the Jordanians and the Gaza Strip was taken by the Egyptians.
In 1967, Israel seized the two territories and set-up an occupation.
The State of Palestine was created in 1988; while the territory was under occupation. Israel never invaded the State of Palestine.
The Hostilities emanating from the Palestinians dates back to early 1948. See A/AC.21.10 16 February 1948. The scope and nature of the belligerence of the HoAP has nothing to do with the defense of their country, since their was no Palestinian Sovereignty in February 1948. The hostility is open defiance to the UN decision to support a Jewish State.
Most Respectfully,
R
This is not at all accurate.
(COMMENT)"OK let's be honest." Indeed.P F Tinmore, et al,
OK let's be honest. That is not all I said. You're cherry picking.
You will notice that I cited Article 68, which penalizes "protected persons" who attempt to do harm to the Occupying Power. You will notice that I cited four (4) major citations relative to "civilians" and "protected persons." All four must be adhered to "simultaneously." You just can't pick and choose.
(COMMENT)According to your hero, RoccoR:
1. A civilian is any person who does not belong to one of the categories of persons referred to in Article 4 A (1), (2), (3) and (6) [ Link ] of the Third Convention and in Article 43 [ Link ] of this Protocol. In case of doubt whether a person is a civilian, that person shall be considered to be a civilian.
Who Are The Palestinians Page 357 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
It is clear that the UN Security Council Resolution 237 stipulates in a binding fashion that the requirements of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 be applied to the territories that came under occupation in 1967. It does not give any special exemption for the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) to conduct hostile operations against the Occupation Power without facing criminal prosecution.
The HoAP which target Israeli Civilians --- does so at their own peril. The HoAP lose their "protected persons" status and become subject to Article 68 Sanctions.
PS: Terrorist, Insurgents, Jihadist and Fedayeen, conducting operations, (any Islamic Resistance Movement) are considered 4th Generation Warfare, Asymmetric combatants and not protected persons.
Most Respectfully,
R
The Palestinians are not hostile. They are defending their country.
None of the territory under question, was surrendered by the Ottoman Empire to the Palestinians --- or any of the other Arab contingents. The Ottoman/Turks relinquished it all to the Principle Allied Powers.
The territory was divided up by the Allied Powers into Mandates. Each Mandate would assume governmental responsibilities of the respective territories.
In 1948, Israel fought its War of Independence (WoI), for it right to self-determination --- as guided by the hand of the United Nations, under A/RES/181(II). What the consequences of that WoI was, included four separate and distinctive Armistice Arrangements with the parties to the conflict; along the forward edge of the battle area.
Included in the outcomes, the West Bank was taken by the Jordanians and the Gaza Strip was taken by the Egyptians.
In 1967, Israel seized the two territories and set-up an occupation.
The State of Palestine was created in 1988; while the territory was under occupation. Israel never invaded the State of Palestine.
The Hostilities emanating from the Palestinians dates back to early 1948. See A/AC.21.10 16 February 1948. The scope and nature of the belligerence of the HoAP has nothing to do with the defense of their country, since their was no Palestinian Sovereignty in February 1948. The hostility is open defiance to the UN decision to support a Jewish State.
Most Respectfully,
R