Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[P F Tinmore]

Bad analogy. The military occupation is not the state. It is a foreign occupation.

On the other thread you are arguing that occupiers have the obligation to provide for the welfare of the people. Which is it? Are they obligated to do so, or are they not? If they are -- surely they must not allow lawlessness.

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY

It is the duty of the occupying power to ensure that the population is
provided with supplies to the fullest extent that it can.
What is meant by supplies? The law refers to basic needs and to other
supplies essential to the survival of the civilian population in the occupied
territory. It specifies basic food and medical supplies as well as clothing,
bedding and means of shelter. Also included are objects necessary for
religious worship. Obviously, a common-sense approach is required in
meeting the requirements of the law. In cold climates, for example, fuel
for heating may take priority.

Destruction of property.
The occupying power is not allowed to destroy real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, to the State, to other public authorities or to social or co-operative organizations, except where such destruction is made absolutely necessary by military operations.

Private property cannot be confiscated.
Property used for religious purposes, for charity, education, or the arts
and sciences, must be treated as private property even if it belongs to
the State. Here the law is quite clear. It is forbidden to seize, destroy or
willfully damage such property. The same applies to historical monuments
and cultural property.

The occupying power must not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian
population into the territory it occupies.

Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian population from occupied territory are prohibited

The legal rights of the inhabitants of occupied territory cannot be curtailed by any agreement or other arrangement between the occupying power and the authorities of the occupied territory. This is intended to prevent national authorities from being put under pressure to make concessions which might not be in the population’s best interests or weaken its legal rights.

ICRC service

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY <------ note the use of all caps for dramatic affect!

All seriousness aside, tinny. There is no implied duty for anyone TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY when the territory is not occupied or when an area is occupied by Islamic terrorists.

Supplying islamic terrorists with the means to continue acts of Islamic terrorism is an obligation carried by anyone.

Ahhhh, playing the old terrorist card again.

 

[Hollie]

Bad analogy. The military occupation is not the state. It is a foreign occupation.

On the other thread you are arguing that occupiers have the obligation to provide for the welfare of the people. Which is it? Are they obligated to do so, or are they not? If they are -- surely they must not allow lawlessness.

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY

It is the duty of the occupying power to ensure that the population is
provided with supplies to the fullest extent that it can.
What is meant by supplies? The law refers to basic needs and to other
supplies essential to the survival of the civilian population in the occupied
territory. It specifies basic food and medical supplies as well as clothing,
bedding and means of shelter. Also included are objects necessary for
religious worship. Obviously, a common-sense approach is required in
meeting the requirements of the law. In cold climates, for example, fuel
for heating may take priority.

Destruction of property.
The occupying power is not allowed to destroy real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, to the State, to other public authorities or to social or co-operative organizations, except where such destruction is made absolutely necessary by military operations.

Private property cannot be confiscated.
Property used for religious purposes, for charity, education, or the arts
and sciences, must be treated as private property even if it belongs to
the State. Here the law is quite clear. It is forbidden to seize, destroy or
willfully damage such property. The same applies to historical monuments
and cultural property.

The occupying power must not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian
population into the territory it occupies.

Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian population from occupied territory are prohibited

The legal rights of the inhabitants of occupied territory cannot be curtailed by any agreement or other arrangement between the occupying power and the authorities of the occupied territory. This is intended to prevent national authorities from being put under pressure to make concessions which might not be in the population’s best interests or weaken its legal rights.

ICRC service

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY <------ note the use of all caps for dramatic affect!

All seriousness aside, tinny. There is no implied duty for anyone TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY when the territory is not occupied or when an area is occupied by Islamic terrorists.

Supplying islamic terrorists with the means to continue acts of Islamic terrorism is an obligation carried by anyone.

Ahhhh, playing the old terrorist card again.

Not at all. Just educating one Islamist terrorist Pom Pom flailer at a time.

 

[Phoenall]

Bad analogy. The military occupation is not the state. It is a foreign occupation.

On the other thread you are arguing that occupiers have the obligation to provide for the welfare of the people. Which is it? Are they obligated to do so, or are they not? If they are -- surely they must not allow lawlessness.

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY

It is the duty of the occupying power to ensure that the population is
provided with supplies to the fullest extent that it can.
What is meant by supplies? The law refers to basic needs and to other
supplies essential to the survival of the civilian population in the occupied
territory. It specifies basic food and medical supplies as well as clothing,
bedding and means of shelter. Also included are objects necessary for
religious worship. Obviously, a common-sense approach is required in
meeting the requirements of the law. In cold climates, for example, fuel
for heating may take priority.

Destruction of property.
The occupying power is not allowed to destroy real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, to the State, to other public authorities or to social or co-operative organizations, except where such destruction is made absolutely necessary by military operations.

Private property cannot be confiscated.
Property used for religious purposes, for charity, education, or the arts
and sciences, must be treated as private property even if it belongs to
the State. Here the law is quite clear. It is forbidden to seize, destroy or
willfully damage such property. The same applies to historical monuments
and cultural property.

The occupying power must not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian
population into the territory it occupies.

Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian population from occupied territory are prohibited

The legal rights of the inhabitants of occupied territory cannot be curtailed by any agreement or other arrangement between the occupying power and the authorities of the occupied territory. This is intended to prevent national authorities from being put under pressure to make concessions which might not be in the population’s best interests or weaken its legal rights.

ICRC service

So seeing as according to International law gaza is not occupied then Israel can close its borders to the transport of aid into gaza.

So according to your way of thinking the occupation will carry on for ever more because the parties cant make any treaties that could end the occupation. Sounds stupid to me, and will mean that Mexico could occupy part of the U.S. and the U.S could not claim it back.


Where has there been mass deportations of civilians from gaza or west bank then, remembering that under these rules those guilty of armed insurrection can be forcibly driven back from the "front line" or deported from the land they possess.

 

[Phoenall]

Bad analogy. The military occupation is not the state. It is a foreign occupation.

On the other thread you are arguing that occupiers have the obligation to provide for the welfare of the people. Which is it? Are they obligated to do so, or are they not? If they are -- surely they must not allow lawlessness.

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY

It is the duty of the occupying power to ensure that the population is
provided with supplies to the fullest extent that it can.
What is meant by supplies? The law refers to basic needs and to other
supplies essential to the survival of the civilian population in the occupied
territory. It specifies basic food and medical supplies as well as clothing,
bedding and means of shelter. Also included are objects necessary for
religious worship. Obviously, a common-sense approach is required in
meeting the requirements of the law. In cold climates, for example, fuel
for heating may take priority.

Destruction of property.
The occupying power is not allowed to destroy real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, to the State, to other public authorities or to social or co-operative organizations, except where such destruction is made absolutely necessary by military operations.

Private property cannot be confiscated.
Property used for religious purposes, for charity, education, or the arts
and sciences, must be treated as private property even if it belongs to
the State. Here the law is quite clear. It is forbidden to seize, destroy or
willfully damage such property. The same applies to historical monuments
and cultural property.

The occupying power must not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian
population into the territory it occupies.

Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian population from occupied territory are prohibited

The legal rights of the inhabitants of occupied territory cannot be curtailed by any agreement or other arrangement between the occupying power and the authorities of the occupied territory. This is intended to prevent national authorities from being put under pressure to make concessions which might not be in the population’s best interests or weaken its legal rights.

ICRC service

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY <------ note the use of all caps for dramatic affect!

All seriousness aside, tinny. There is no implied duty for anyone TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY when the territory is not occupied or when an area is occupied by Islamic terrorists.

Supplying islamic terrorists with the means to continue acts of Islamic terrorism is an obligation carried by anyone.

Ahhhh, playing the old terrorist card again.

No that is you who sees it as a get out card, and does not realise that it failed once Islamic states claimed the Palestinians were terrorists.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Bad analogy. The military occupation is not the state. It is a foreign occupation.

On the other thread you are arguing that occupiers have the obligation to provide for the welfare of the people. Which is it? Are they obligated to do so, or are they not? If they are -- surely they must not allow lawlessness.

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY

It is the duty of the occupying power to ensure that the population is
provided with supplies to the fullest extent that it can.
What is meant by supplies? The law refers to basic needs and to other
supplies essential to the survival of the civilian population in the occupied
territory. It specifies basic food and medical supplies as well as clothing,
bedding and means of shelter. Also included are objects necessary for
religious worship. Obviously, a common-sense approach is required in
meeting the requirements of the law. In cold climates, for example, fuel
for heating may take priority.

Destruction of property.
The occupying power is not allowed to destroy real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, to the State, to other public authorities or to social or co-operative organizations, except where such destruction is made absolutely necessary by military operations.

Private property cannot be confiscated.
Property used for religious purposes, for charity, education, or the arts
and sciences, must be treated as private property even if it belongs to
the State. Here the law is quite clear. It is forbidden to seize, destroy or
willfully damage such property. The same applies to historical monuments
and cultural property.

The occupying power must not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian
population into the territory it occupies.

Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian population from occupied territory are prohibited

The legal rights of the inhabitants of occupied territory cannot be curtailed by any agreement or other arrangement between the occupying power and the authorities of the occupied territory. This is intended to prevent national authorities from being put under pressure to make concessions which might not be in the population’s best interests or weaken its legal rights.

ICRC service

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY <------ note the use of all caps for dramatic affect!

All seriousness aside, tinny. There is no implied duty for anyone TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY when the territory is not occupied or when an area is occupied by Islamic terrorists.

Supplying islamic terrorists with the means to continue acts of Islamic terrorism is an obligation carried by anyone.

Ahhhh, playing the old terrorist card again.

No that is you who sees it as a get out card, and does not realise that it failed once Islamic states claimed the Palestinians were terrorists.

Pfffft, is name calling all you got?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

LARISSA SANSOUR

 

[Hollie]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

ISIS lite

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

 

[Hollie]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

 

[Hollie]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

 

[Mindful]

Commentary magazine:

Something truly shocking happened this week: A UN official publicly called out Hamas for “stealing from their own people and adding to the suffering of Palestinians in Gaza.” The shocking part is that someone from the UN actually bothered to comment. Usually, international officials prefer to ignore such malfeasance, lest admitting it undercut their claim that Palestinian suffering is Israel’s fault. Yet exacerbating Palestinian suffering is actually standard practice for both Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, as demonstrated by several media reports from the past two weeks alone.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

The problem with this line of crap is that Hamas rocket launchers are not permanent, or heavy, or expensive.

They fire off some rockets and a minute later they are down the road. Israel knows that the perps are gone but they bomb the crap out of all of the civilians in the area anyway.

 

[Hollie]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

The problem with this line of crap is that Hamas rocket launchers are not permanent, or heavy, or expensive.

They fire off some rockets and a minute later they are down the road. Israel knows that the perps are gone but they bomb the crap out of all of the civilians in the area anyway.

Freedom fighters™

 

[Shusha]

The problem with this line of crap is that Hamas rocket launchers are not permanent, or heavy, or expensive.

So it would be really, really easy to put them far away from civilians and schools, hospitals, and refugee stations, then, wouldn't it?

 

[Shusha]

And, of course, they also have the option of not firing illegal indiscriminate weapons at Israeli civilians in violation of international law.

 

[P F Tinmore]

And, of course, they also have the option of not firing illegal indiscriminate weapons at Israeli civilians in violation of international law.

And Israel had the opportunity to prosecute Hamas for those alleged crimes but turned it down.

Maybe Israel knows something that you don't.

 

[Phoenall]

On the other thread you are arguing that occupiers have the obligation to provide for the welfare of the people. Which is it? Are they obligated to do so, or are they not? If they are -- surely they must not allow lawlessness.

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY

It is the duty of the occupying power to ensure that the population is
provided with supplies to the fullest extent that it can.
What is meant by supplies? The law refers to basic needs and to other
supplies essential to the survival of the civilian population in the occupied
territory. It specifies basic food and medical supplies as well as clothing,
bedding and means of shelter. Also included are objects necessary for
religious worship. Obviously, a common-sense approach is required in
meeting the requirements of the law. In cold climates, for example, fuel
for heating may take priority.

Destruction of property.
The occupying power is not allowed to destroy real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, to the State, to other public authorities or to social or co-operative organizations, except where such destruction is made absolutely necessary by military operations.

Private property cannot be confiscated.
Property used for religious purposes, for charity, education, or the arts
and sciences, must be treated as private property even if it belongs to
the State. Here the law is quite clear. It is forbidden to seize, destroy or
willfully damage such property. The same applies to historical monuments
and cultural property.

The occupying power must not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian
population into the territory it occupies.

Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian population from occupied territory are prohibited

The legal rights of the inhabitants of occupied territory cannot be curtailed by any agreement or other arrangement between the occupying power and the authorities of the occupied territory. This is intended to prevent national authorities from being put under pressure to make concessions which might not be in the population’s best interests or weaken its legal rights.

ICRC service

THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY <------ note the use of all caps for dramatic affect!

All seriousness aside, tinny. There is no implied duty for anyone TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES TO THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY when the territory is not occupied or when an area is occupied by Islamic terrorists.

Supplying islamic terrorists with the means to continue acts of Islamic terrorism is an obligation carried by anyone.

Ahhhh, playing the old terrorist card again.

No that is you who sees it as a get out card, and does not realise that it failed once Islamic states claimed the Palestinians were terrorists.

Pfffft, is name calling all you got?

What name calling are you on about, the facts speak for themselves. The Palestinians are called terrorists by their fellow arab muslims, then by the rest of the civilised world. So the name calling comes from you who cant handle the reality and see that the palestinians are disliked by the vast majority of civilised people.

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

LARISSA SANSOUR

Is that all you have islamonazi pallywood propaganda from Tariq Ali ?

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

Not Palestinian at all as it does not cover the Jews who are also Palestinians. Just islamonazi propaganda