Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Hollie]

...they are the direct descendants of Eastern European Khazar-converts to Judaism...try educating yourself please...

The poster spouting the long and thoroughly debunked Khazar nonsense wants us to educate ourselves.

I'll bet $1.00 he isn't aware the former, wannbe, self-entitled "Pal'istanian"; Yassir "guess how much money I stole" Arafat was Egyptian.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

 

[Shusha]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

There are no foreign governments involved in the conflict at this point. The conflict (since the peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan) is between two competing domestic governments.

Immigration (return) is irrelevant to sovereignty. So are majorities.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

There are no foreign governments involved in the conflict at this point. The conflict (since the peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan) is between two competing domestic governments.

Immigration (return) is irrelevant to sovereignty. So are majorities.

What part of my post is not true?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

Israel was born 3000 years ago. It is the homeland of the Israelites who followed the G_D of Abraham, as it has been since then.

The vast majority you keep referring to are foreign Arabs, from Arabia, who as Muslims insist that Jews have no sovereign rights anywhere, including on their ancient homeland.

No one should follow the desires of foreign invaders who have been mistreating the indigenous people of the land, the followers of the G_D of Abraham, for 1300 years and continued to do so the whole 100 years after it.

If military force is what anyone understands.

The Jews understood the military power of the Muslim Arab invaders.

The Muslims understood the military power of the European Crusaders.

The Crusaders understood the military power of the Ottoman Empire.

The Ottoman Empire understood the military power of the Allies.

The Jews understood the military power of the Arabs and British.

The Arabs and British understood the military power of the Israeli Army.

The Arabs and Lebanese, and others, continue to understand the military power of Israel as it defends and protects its lands.

Military power is great, when it is truly necessary, when there is no other way to protect one's land and one's life/population from the endless attacks of any foreign power. Arab, Muslim, Christian, Iranian, Lebanese, Syrian.

Am Israel Chai!

 

[Sixties Fan]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

There are no foreign governments involved in the conflict at this point. The conflict (since the peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan) is between two competing domestic governments.

Immigration (return) is irrelevant to sovereignty. So are majorities.

What part of my post is not true?

Your endless mistake, or endless fake idea, that ONLY people born on the land have the right to the land.

The indigenous people have the first claim to the land. That would be the Jewish people.
They were to share the land, the Muslim Jew haters would have none of it, due to their Islamic upbringing, which is a foreign concept in the Land of Israel, as it comes from Arabia.

Want to keep on playing the "Only those born on the land have any rights to it" game?

 

[Hollie]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

The loosely defined geographic area called Palestine was controlled for a period of time by the conquering Turks as part of an Islamist colonial project. The collapse of that colonial project was followed by the Turks releasing all rights and title to the territory.

You always have the option to buy a horse and sword, declare gee-had and reconquer the area.

Your caliphate of one.

Super.

 

[Shusha]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

There are no foreign governments involved in the conflict at this point. The conflict (since the peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan) is between two competing domestic governments.

Immigration (return) is irrelevant to sovereignty. So are majorities.

What part of my post is not true?

You like to post little half-truths, ignore large true sections of law and create red herrings with irrelevant comments. There is no international sovereign government or State occupying any portion of the territory in question. There are two (three) domestic governments.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

There are no foreign governments involved in the conflict at this point. The conflict (since the peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan) is between two competing domestic governments.

Immigration (return) is irrelevant to sovereignty. So are majorities.

What part of my post is not true?

You like to post little half-truths, ignore large true sections of law and create red herrings with irrelevant comments. There is no international sovereign government or State occupying any portion of the territory in question. There are two (three) domestic governments.

Nice deflection.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

There are no foreign governments involved in the conflict at this point. The conflict (since the peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan) is between two competing domestic governments.

Immigration (return) is irrelevant to sovereignty. So are majorities.

What part of my post is not true?

You like to post little half-truths, ignore large true sections of law and create red herrings with irrelevant comments. There is no international sovereign government or State occupying any portion of the territory in question. There are two (three) domestic governments.

Nice deflection.

That always seems to be your half baked response as you do not understand the laws, Accords, history, or anything else which is being dealt with.

None of our responses are deflections.
Your mind has a hard time analyzing and dealing with any facts.
At least.....the facts concerning any and all rights granted to the Jewish people, and ONLY the Jewish People.

 

[Ventura77]

...they are the direct descendants of Eastern European Khazar-converts to Judaism...try educating yourself please...

The poster spouting the long and thoroughly debunked Khazar nonsense wants us to educate ourselves.

LOL...Sorry but the DNA evidence for Khazar ancestry is confirmed by an Israeli geneticist...try educating yourself before posting

 

[Ventura77]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

To the contrary, it appears that YOU are the one who has difficulty comprehending: Israel is essentially occupied Palestine...UN recognition was basically paid for by Jewish political insiders to the extent that the newly established UN violated the letter and spirit of its own charter in recognizing a state whose declaration of statehood took place in the wake of a criminal ethnic cleansing of 800,000 Arab Palestinians!!!

 

[Ventura77]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

Exactly correct PF...literally every aspect of the Jewish narrative is a gargantuan LIE...

 

[Hollie]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of colonial settlers. The foreign Jewish agency established the government of Israel against the wishes of the vast majority of the population. This government was imposed on Palestine by military force.

Exactly correct PF...literally every aspect of the Jewish narrative is a gargantuan LIE...

Link?

 

[Shusha]

Nice deflection.

In other words, you have no response. And of course you don't because there is no foreign government operating in Israel/Palestine.

No more so than a foreign government is occupying Spain in Catalonia. Two domestic governments. One with sovereignty and one seeking sovereignty. It is the same in Israel.

 

[Shusha]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

To the contrary, it appears that YOU are the one who has difficulty comprehending: Israel is essentially occupied Palestine...UN recognition was basically paid for by Jewish political insiders to the extent that the newly established UN violated the letter and spirit of its own charter in recognizing a state whose declaration of statehood took place in the wake of a criminal ethnic cleansing of 800,000 Arab Palestinians!!!

The only criminal ethnic cleansing was the removal of the Jewish people in the neighbouring Arab states contrary to IHL as well as specific legal instruments of the time.

The rest was an internal conflict -- a civil war-- which resulted in the displacement of people on BOTH sides. Which was -- and is -- a direct result of Arab hostility.

 

[Ventura77]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

To the contrary, it appears that YOU are the one who has difficulty comprehending: Israel is essentially occupied Palestine...UN recognition was basically paid for by Jewish political insiders to the extent that the newly established UN violated the letter and spirit of its own charter in recognizing a state whose declaration of statehood took place in the wake of a criminal ethnic cleansing of 800,000 Arab Palestinians!!!

The only criminal ethnic cleansing was the removal of the Jewish people in the neighbouring Arab states contrary to IHL as well as specific legal instruments of the time.

The rest was an internal conflict -- a civil war-- which resulted in the displacement of people on BOTH sides. Which was -- and is -- a direct result of Arab hostility.

Clearly you occupy a fantasy world in which you can parse and distort to your liking...here in the real world however we have the admission of leading Zionist Jew who were there in May of 48 and were quite candid about the 'ethnic cleansing' they conducted...Your argument is with David Ben Gurion...Begin...Dyan...etc...etc.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

To the contrary, it appears that YOU are the one who has difficulty comprehending: Israel is essentially occupied Palestine...UN recognition was basically paid for by Jewish political insiders to the extent that the newly established UN violated the letter and spirit of its own charter in recognizing a state whose declaration of statehood took place in the wake of a criminal ethnic cleansing of 800,000 Arab Palestinians!!!

The only criminal ethnic cleansing was the removal of the Jewish people in the neighbouring Arab states contrary to IHL as well as specific legal instruments of the time.

The rest was an internal conflict -- a civil war-- which resulted in the displacement of people on BOTH sides. Which was -- and is -- a direct result of Arab hostility.

Susha,

Is it considered a civil war when in 1920 Gaza was ethnically cleansed of Jews by the British?

Or when the Hashemites ethnically cleansed TransJordan of all Jewish inhabitants?

How about 1929 when Arabs attacked unarmed Jews in Hebron and then the British expelled the other Jews from that city, not allowing them to return?

 

[Ventura77]

Nice deflection.

In other words, you have no response. And of course you don't because there is no foreign government operating in Israel/Palestine.

No more so than a foreign government is occupying Spain in Catalonia. Two domestic governments. One with sovereignty and one seeking sovereignty. It is the same in Israel.

Here yet again you lead with preferred ignorance: Israel is a criminal occupier according to all legitimate international legal consensus...how you can invoke a word like 'sovereignty' against criminal occupation is indicative of the delusional nature of the deranged Zionist mind

 

[Ventura77]

Not so. Palestine is under attack by foreign forces.

Israel does not exist outside of the territory in question. Therefore, it is not a foreign entity, but a domestic one. You sure seem to have difficulty understanding sovereignty.

To the contrary, it appears that YOU are the one who has difficulty comprehending: Israel is essentially occupied Palestine...UN recognition was basically paid for by Jewish political insiders to the extent that the newly established UN violated the letter and spirit of its own charter in recognizing a state whose declaration of statehood took place in the wake of a criminal ethnic cleansing of 800,000 Arab Palestinians!!!

The only criminal ethnic cleansing was the removal of the Jewish people in the neighbouring Arab states contrary to IHL as well as specific legal instruments of the time.

The rest was an internal conflict -- a civil war-- which resulted in the displacement of people on BOTH sides. Which was -- and is -- a direct result of Arab hostility.

Susha,

Is it considered a civil war when in 1920 Gaza was ethnically cleansed of Jews by the British?

Or when the Hashemites ethnically cleansed TransJordan of all Jewish inhabitants?

How about 1929 when Arabs attacked unarmed Jews in Hebron and then the British expelled the other Jews from that city, not allowing them to return?

No doubt you're aware that illegal Jewish immigration into Palestine was the catalyst behind your typically one-sided comments? The Zionist Congress was trying to artificially inflate the number of Jews in Palestine in the hopes of declaring Palestine a 'Jewish homeland'...