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(COMMENT)I believe you when you say you agree with me respect to the freedom to practice religion. But, given that you agree that the right to practice region is a fundamental human right protected by international law, I wonder why you would post an article which posits that as "political". Or "extreme".
No I am not. In fact that is one of the areas I agree with you on.Israels political trend towards the extreme right is nothing new to anyone who reads the news, here is a more complete article.
Politics in Israel is increasingly nationalist
I'm going to have to ask you for clarification on that one. MOST of that article is centered around the right of people to access and worship at their own holy sites. That is a basic, fundamental human right entrenched in international law, not to mention relevant treaties. Are you claiming that the right to pray at holy places is political extremism?!?!?!
Unfortunately I have exceeded the quota for the Economist so I canāt read and excerpt from the article but here are some more:
Israel's New Friends in Right-Wing Places
Religion And Politics In Israel
Part 2: Shifts in Israel that Could Influence the Westās Approach to Israel and the Jewish People
I don't have time to read those articles tonight. Busy day of stupid errands and realities tomorrow but will try to look at them when I can.
My concern is that we are re-defining common terms and understandings for Jews. Because... Jews. Simple things like praying at our holy sites (something Muslims are not condemned for) become "political extremism". Or "exerting (implied not earned) sovereignty".
Being able to worship as we desire at our holy sites should not be questioned, yes? It's a fundamental right.
I believe you when you say you agree with me respect to the freedom to practice religion. But, given that you agree that the right to practice region is a fundamental human right protected by international law, I wonder why you would post an article which posits that as "political". Or "extreme".
No I am not. In fact that is one of the areas I agree with you on.Israels political trend towards the extreme right is nothing new to anyone who reads the news, here is a more complete article.
Politics in Israel is increasingly nationalist
I'm going to have to ask you for clarification on that one. MOST of that article is centered around the right of people to access and worship at their own holy sites. That is a basic, fundamental human right entrenched in international law, not to mention relevant treaties. Are you claiming that the right to pray at holy places is political extremism?!?!?!
Unfortunately I have exceeded the quota for the Economist so I canāt read and excerpt from the article but here are some more:
Israel's New Friends in Right-Wing Places
Religion And Politics In Israel
Part 2: Shifts in Israel that Could Influence the Westās Approach to Israel and the Jewish People
I don't have time to read those articles tonight. Busy day of stupid errands and realities tomorrow but will try to look at them when I can.
My concern is that we are re-defining common terms and understandings for Jews. Because... Jews. Simple things like praying at our holy sites (something Muslims are not condemned for) become "political extremism". Or "exerting (implied not earned) sovereignty".
Being able to worship as we desire at our holy sites should not be questioned, yes? It's a fundamental right.
I believe you when you say you agree with me respect to the freedom to practice religion. But, given that you agree that the right to practice region is a fundamental human right protected by international law, I wonder why you would post an article which posits that as "political". Or "extreme".
I posted it more because of what it said further down, which I can now access, paywalls are so annoying:
Print edition | Special report
- Weaponising prayer
To understand the danger of politicised piety, consider Hebron, Jerusalemās āolder sisterā and site of the Cave of the Patriarchs (which Muslims call the Ibrahimi Mosque), where the Bible says Abraham bought a burial-place for his family. Both the Kotel and the Hebron site feature massive stone blocks from the time of Herod the Great. After the war of 1967 Jews gained the right to pray in the cave complex for the first time in 700 years. They also moved into buildings nearby to restore a Jewish community that had been massacred and evicted in 1929. Where Jewish settlers go, the Israeli state usually follows. The friction in Hebron has caused much bloodshed on all sides. After a massacre of Muslim worshippers in the Cave of the Patriarchs by a settler in 1994, Israeli authorities partitioned the site, and later the city.
It was in Hebron in March 2016 that an army medic, Sergeant Elor Azaria, killed a Palestinian lying on the ground, even though he had already been wounded and incapacitated after trying to stab Israeli soldiers. Mr Azaria shot the man not in the heat of the moment but 11 minutes after the stabbingāand was caught on video. The armyās high command demanded exemplary punishment, but populist politicians agitated for an acquittal or, once the soldier was convicted of manslaughter, a pardon. Strikingly, the prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, took the side of the pardon-seekers.
The Azaria affair says much about the chauvinism that suffuses Israeli public life. Politics is no longer a contest of right against left but of right against far right. Israel has become more ethno-nationalist and less universalist; more Jewish and less Israeli. Mr Netanyahu, once regarded as a demagogue, often looks like a moderate next to many of his cabinet members.
Right-wingers have sought to marginalise Arab parties in the Knesset and hamper leftists and liberals. The Knesset is pushing laws on everything from reducing the volume of Muslim calls to prayer to forcing the disclosure of money given by foreign governments to NGOs (which often support human rights and other liberal causes) and giving immigration authorities greater power to ban BDS (boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel) activists from entering Israel. The government has inveighed against what it calls the āactivistā Supreme Court (which it deems too liberal) and against the media.
Outside parliament, things can turn uglier still. The ultras of the Beitar Jerusalem football club, La Familia, sing racist chants and are frequently involved in violence, not least when they pour out of matches to look for Arabs to beat up. The team has never had an Arab player. āI am a racist,ā says one member. āThatās what La Familia means: the Jewish family.ā A related group, Lehava, campaigns rowdily against miscegenation. All this might be dismissed as fringe activity, except that Beitar Jerusalem is much beloved of Likud ministers, and the government gives money to groups close to Lehava that seek to āsaveā Jewish women from Muslims. It has also objected to a book featuring love between Arabs and Jews.
Ehud Barak, a former Labour prime minister, talks of ābudding fascismā. Older Likud members, from Moshe Arens, a former defence minister, to President Reuven Rivlin, and even some of the settlersā father figures, find the crass racism disturbing, but these days they are sidelined. āLikud was hawkish, but was liberal and democratic. It has been transformed,ā says Moshe Halbertal, a professor of Jewish philosophy at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. āFor ultranationalists, the enemy is withināNGOs, the minorities, the courts.ā
- Weaponising prayer
To understand the danger of politicised piety, consider Hebron,
Here's what I don't get about "weaponising prayer", and what I see as problematic with the very idea. Its the idea that people go to pray in holy places and it results in violence and then people claim that PRAYER is the problem because of "politicised piety' or "weaponized prayer" instead of VIOLENCE being the problem. This is especially concerning when it is applied uniquely to the Jewish peoples, who's desire to pray and worship at their own holy sites is considered "provocative" or "incitement" or "weaponising prayer", rather than simply a desire to pray and worship at their own holy places, which is normally seen as a pretty basic, fundamental human right.
- Weaponising prayer
To understand the danger of politicised piety, consider Hebron,
Demolition of home of Ari Fuld's murderer begins
Israeli security forces begin demolishing the home of the family of terrorist Khalil Jabareen.
Israeli security forces on Friday morning began demolishing the home of the family of terrorist Khalil Jabareen in the village of Yatta, near Hevron.
Jabareen carried out the stabbing attack at the Gush Etzion junction in September, in which Ari Fuld was murdered.
Ari Fuld, a 40-year-old father of four, rushed toward the terrorist after being stabbed and even shot at him. He was evacuated to the Shaare Zedek Hospital in Jerusalem, where he later succumbed to the critical stab wounds he sustained.
The terrorist, 16-year-old Khalil Abu Jabareen from Yatta, was shot by a civilian passerby and taken to the Shaare Zedek Hospital.
Last week, the Supreme Court rejected the petition of the family of the terrorist against the demolition order issued for the third floor of the house where the terrorist lived.
Demolition of home of Ari Fuld's murderer begins
Israeli security forces begin demolishing the home of the family of terrorist Khalil Jabareen.
Israeli security forces on Friday morning began demolishing the home of the family of terrorist Khalil Jabareen in the village of Yatta, near Hevron.
Jabareen carried out the stabbing attack at the Gush Etzion junction in September, in which Ari Fuld was murdered.
Ari Fuld, a 40-year-old father of four, rushed toward the terrorist after being stabbed and even shot at him. He was evacuated to the Shaare Zedek Hospital in Jerusalem, where he later succumbed to the critical stab wounds he sustained.
The terrorist, 16-year-old Khalil Abu Jabareen from Yatta, was shot by a civilian passerby and taken to the Shaare Zedek Hospital.
Last week, the Supreme Court rejected the petition of the family of the terrorist against the demolition order issued for the third floor of the house where the terrorist lived.
Yet they wonāt demolish the homes of Jewish terrorists. Imagining that! Oh wait. My bad. There is no such thing as a Jewish terrorist.