Who are the fools buying into more drilling?

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    I know this is hard for some but the fact is expanding drilling into environmentally sensative areas will not lower gas prices.

    Not now and not for the foreseeable future. The drilling issue is again a distraction from the fact that we have allowed our dependence on oil to jepordize our security.

    The future will belong to whoever first converts to an all electric society/economy. Fossil fuels are a relic from the past, championed by those who love to have us anti up everyday as we fill our gas tanks.

    Photovotaics and wind generation are off the shelf technologies just waiting for us to use.

    Had we not followed the direction of Bush and Cheney for the last eight years we could have been well on our way to a clean and sustainable future of cheap and abundant energy.

    The money spent in Iraq could have been invested in this future, instead it was wasted trying to hold onto the past. That past only enriches the rich while impovershing our whole nation.
     
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    What the hell is photovotaics?????

    And wind generation isn't practical. They either make too much energy and blow out their computers or they don't make enough and back up sources have to be tapped into.
     
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    Here is what I learned on Randi Rhodes (NOVA M RADIO) the other day. The Democrats have introduced 4 bills that would have created immediate relief for Americans, but the GOP blocked all 4. No to ending the enron loopholes, no to ending speculation, no to windfall profit taxes and NO to a compromise where we let the oil companies drill offshore and they sell some of that gas to America, rather than on the world market.

    The only solution the GOP says is to let the oil companies have all our land/oil.

    The Democrats need to speak up though. Why do they consistently let the GOP make them look foolish?

    The oil companies get our oil cheap. The GOP congress 00-06 assured that by limiting how much the oil companies would ever have to pay for a barrel of oil. So the oil companies want to sell the oil on the world market, not to us. The oil companies also buy oil for us on the world market. That's why they are able to say their costs have gone up. So the reason the oil companies are making record profits is because of the GOP law that said the oil companies never have to pay more than $56 a barrel.

    So they don't lie to us when they say their costs have gone up. They have. But that they just pass on to us. They just don't mention that America isn't getting any more per barrel since oil prices have gone up. We get 1999 prices. I say we need to renegotiate with the oil companies.

    Oh, but the GOP will say that prices will go up if that happens. And that's probably true. That's why these industries need to be heavily regulated. It's our oil. If the oil companies won't sell us our oil for cheap, fuck them. I'm sure we can get someone else to do it. How about Hugo Chavez? He socialized Venesuela's oil and seems to be doing alright.

    But pay attention to the fact that he says Chaney and Bush tried to assassinate him. After everything we've learned, is there any doubt?

    Who killed the battery car? In fact, who killed the guy who figured out how to get a car to run on h2o? google it.

    Republicans want to socialize losses and privatize the profits.
     
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    Your not knowing what photovotaics is is exemplary of your ignorance. Photovotaics is the proccess of direct conversion of sun light into electrical energy. Solar energy if you will. It is important to differentiate between PV and solar water heating that was common twenty years ago (still a viable and energy saving low tech resource).

    As for wind, not only is it practical, it is very competitive price wise and getting more so all the time.Science News reported a couple years back that not only have recent advances in generator technology made it cheaper and more reliable but also that there are enough areas of suitable winds within 100 miles of every US metro areas to supply vitually all our electric power, the potential is virtually unlimited.
     
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    ps. In the past Chaney said he would consider windfall profit taxes. Today he says no way. Another flip flop for big business. Nice.
     
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    Idiot

    If you would actually have used the proper term of photovoltaics.... as in voltage derived from converting radiant energy... people would understand you


    And while wind is viable in terms of efficiency... not in the amount of generation that would be needed at this time... same with solar... nuke is more viable than both of those, plus takes much less land
     
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    the only way to follow up that statement is with the word "NOTHING"

    You preach that like gospel and bash on partisan hacks from the other side....??

    get real
     
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    If the Egyptians would have had nukes and stored them in their pyrimads, we would still have to stay away from them to this day because of their radioactiveness.

    Have you ever heard of all the nuclear waste we have dumped in the Pacific? So god forbid you go sailing or even worse, SCUBA DIVING near some of that shit.

    You don't care about anything except for yourself.
     
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    Find one time when she/they are acting like Rush limbaugh or Slanity or O'Reilly.

    Just because your side are all liars, don't assume the other side is. Especially when you've never listened.
     
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    I asked you on another topic if you are ok with monopolies. Want to answer the question?
     

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