White House Exploring Various Methods To Pay Off The Debt. Massive Tax Increases

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    They claim that a value added tax is not being considered but a NY Times article states otherwise.

    Reduction Is Theme Of President’s Next Act - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com

    Obama wants us to thank him for lowering our taxes but the so-called tax decrease won't even pay my phone bill for a month.

    This is something the Tea-party has been protesting.....massive spending increases usually mean higher taxes are soon to follow.....and this is no exception.

    First...they intend to let the Bush tax cuts lapse. That's tax increase number one.

    Second...a new VAT or Value Added Tax is being discussed. That's tax increase number two.

    How do they slowly sneak it in without anyone noticing it? That is still being discussed.

    It accomplishes two of Obama's main goals. It raises more revenue and it also curbs consumption.

    What better way to curb consumption then to raise prices so high you can't afford it anymore.

    Why does Obama want to curb consumption? Could it be he wants to worsen the economy...cause another crisis...so he can take over more of the private sector?

    It's highly possible.
     
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    We are sooooo gonna get a VAT. You watch... they'll introduce it with a sales pitch of 'it's only 5% and we need to pay off the debt... once we get that under control, we can use the VAT to end income tax'.... what we will end up with is income tax and VAT... just like every other nation.

    One sees mounting evidence of Obama's grand plan to make the USA just another vanilla nation on the planet. No special place for us.
     
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    I've been told by a few here that the VAT will never happen.

    They also said that a Carbon Tax was never gonna happen ether.

    Eventually it becomes acceptable to them and they change from denial to advocates for it.
     
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    Here is a simple way to pay off the debt:

    Stop spending so damn much
     
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    Nice sherlock, but that's not going to magically get rid of the debt we currently have. At some point, taxes are going to have to be raised. War doesn't pay for itself.
     
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    Wait a minute...I thought that Boyking was going to bring the troops home and pay for his socialist Utopia with the money we saved from that.
     
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    Problem being that a VAT is a direct tax, which would need to be apportioned to the states for collection.

    You want to see the federal lawsuits fly, just let those parasites just try to institute a VAT.
     
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    Of course it's going to mean HIGHER TAXES. They want a Euro-style socieity. Gov't provides all basic needs, in exchange you forfeit over 60% of your pay to the gov't.

    These ignorant leftists don't realize this. He's playing the "You're paying lower taxes now" game for what reason? For elections. November is gonna be ugly. He's aiming for 2012. Lay the foundation now, pay for it later.

    Problem is.....most left wing zombies are dumb enough and gullable enough to fall for it. Hell, they voted for him the first time, NOTHING will stop them from doing it again. Not even the sure bankrupting of their children's futures.
     
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    Yes, BUT, in the eyes of a liberal progressive, the United States become just another vanilla Euro-style country, nothing special here, is EXACTLY what they would call success. These lefties are embarrassed about living in the world's lone superpower. They want nothing more than for their country to fall to mediocrity and percieved equality to the rest of the world, so they can feel warm and fuzzy and pretened they are no longer percieved as the arrogant American's by their beloved French foreign exchange buddies.
     
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    But neither Clinton, Bush or Obama were Liberal Progressives. So as to why Liberals are getting the blame for problems, the question remains.

    The closest thing to Liberals in 2010 that we've had in the past sixty years was Eisenhower and Nixon.
     

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