Which is more "liberal"?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by IHBF, Aug 15, 2012.

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Pick one:

  1. Democrat Party

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  2. Libertarian Party

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    52.6%
  1. IHBF
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    The definition of "liberal" is at your discretion.

    Both parties' platforms are available online.
     
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    Libertarian Party by leaps and bounds...

    Edit: But democrats don't think that... And republicans sure as hell don't think that. LOL

    Democrats think they are liberal, and republicans think that they are too!!! It's morbidly ironic to the point of being funny.
     
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    The Libertarian Party is both more socially liberal than the Democrats, and more fiscally conservative than the Republicans, and both sides hate them for it.
     
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    In regards to personal freedom, race, sexuality wars, income and so on Libertarians are by far the most liberal party. If by "liberal" you mean in creating more costly Government regulations and programs that divide the country by race, sexuality, income and so on then that would be Democrats…

    But it’s not a fair question seeing as Democrats (the elected party) are the least freedom advocating of the two current major parties.
     
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    As Liberal has had several meanings over the last three hundred years the question is up for interpretation.

    However, using the 18th-19th century definition (small, inactive government respecting the rights of its citizens) of the term, I'll go with Libertarian.
    Using the 20th-21st century definition (activist, progressive, granting rights nowhere else recognised in history, intruding on others, government large and intrusive in all respects) then both the GOPers and the Democrats qualify.
     
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    Yeah... That sounds about right.
     
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    The hardcore Libertarians are much more liberal than an 'average' Democrat.

    You don't care if there is a heroin carryout and a gay whorehouse setting up shop on either side of the local middle school.

    As an actual complete package, pure Libertarianism as a way to govern has the same shortcoming as Communism in that it fails to account for the vagrancies of human nature.


    It is a complete joke in that regard. We tried libertarianism in the wild wild west. Didn't work.

    That said, most people find things they like about libertarian philosophy they like a great deal, including myself.

    I hate to always be the guy in here to bear the bad news for you guys, but oh, well.
     
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    *ponders*

    What would those shortcomings be?


    Why didn't it?

    I see you saying it... I just don't know why you are saying it. It's a bunch of statements with no substance. Are you a politician?
     
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    definitions aren't discretionary. words have meaning.
     
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    Indeed. The reason I said that is because "liberal" used to mean liberty and less government intervention. Today, a typical liberal is a statist.

    So, I left it open to be decided based upon how you define the word.
     

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