Discussion in 'Politics' started by elvis, Sep 19, 2008.
How would Hillary have matched up with McCain? Would it be close?
Not at all. Hillary would be winning the same states Obama is winning, plus Ohio, Florida, Missouri, and Arkansas.
And Virginia and Indiana would probably be leaning blue, also.
I agree. I can't understand why the democrats didn't nominate her.
Because Obama brainwashed people into thinking he was better for the job. I think a lot of people are regretting that decision.
I hope McCain wins for two reasons: no Obama now, and Hillary runs in 2012. If it were Hillary versus McCain, I wouldn't care who won. They agree on a lot of issues, and they disagree on a few. It's a give-and-take situation for me on what they disagree on, so either way, I'd be happy.
However, if McCain wins, I actually see it being Palin versus Hillary in 2012. I don't think McCain's going to die (I hope not), but I don't see him making a second go of it. He just wants his turn.
It's all fucked up right now because Clinton had better appeal nationally with republicans and independents in purple states, whereas Obama appealed more to registered Democrats. I believe just over half of the Democrats held Clinton's war vote against her and were turned off by her excessive pandering. Democrats are usually more emotional than they are head strong when deciding on their candidates.
The big fuck up wasn't electing Obama over Clinton though. It was Obama picking Joe Biden over Clinton for veep. If Clinton were Obama's running mate, I bet you this race would be close to over.
The ticket SHOULD have been Clinton/Obama. I believe Obama is better suited for VP until he gets some experience under his belt, but I still don't like him.
Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton would be winning more than just the states I mentioned above...they could even pull in some of the South (other than Arkansas).
Obama didn't want the Clintons trying to control his presidency. I don't think any two people despise each other the way Bill and Barry do.
Hillary would be up at least 15 points in the national average and Republicans would be talking about who the 2012 frontrunner is.
If Hillary had won the primary, the money behind both political parties wouldn't be scrambling to make McCain electable. As with other recent elections, the corporate owners of both parties wouldn't care who won. We would most likely be seeing Leiberman on the republican ticket, and most of us would still have never heard of Sarah Palin. Another boring, who-gives-a-crap 'cause they're all owned by the same corporations American election.
I think she carried too much baggage.
I know far too many Democrats who would not vote for her.
Oh, they would not have voted Republican, they just would have stayed home.
I can't fully explain why she isn't well liked, but that's fairly obvious to me.
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