CDZ Where is the proof of illegal voting in American elections?

[flacaltenn]

Ah, one of those disingenuous 'talking points' attempting to deny what most know, and what most Democrats work at doing every election cycle, herding illegals to polls.

Proof Of Illegal Aliens Voting As Those Called For Jury Duty Claim They Are Not Citizens : Diggers Realm

How can you prove that someone who voted is an illegal alien? Well currently there really is no way. With the current system of voter registration and no requirements to show proof that you're actually a citizen of the United States and therefore eligible to vote at the polls, any idiot can show up and cast a vote that disenfranchises every other single eligible voter in America.

So down to the proof. Harris County, Texas discovered that those called for Jury Duty after registering to vote then went before a judge and said they couldn't serve as a juror because they were not citizens of the United States.

... and of course any search on Google or Yahoo turns up all kinds of info on it, Jake. you should try researching topics once in a while, Jake. This is just one of your lame trolls, not a serious topic.

And again- where is the proof of 'millions of illegal votes' as Trump has claimed?

A few people registering illegally in Texas is not proof of any kind of significant voter fraud.

Voter "fraud" is also winking and nodding at the law and the rules. As in ENCOURAGING folks to just waddle into any ole polling station on election day and expect to be allowed to vote. Circumventing the REGISTRATION process, violates the spirit and letter of the laws.

So now you have over a MILLION PROVISIONAL ballots in Cali that will never be sorted out. Don't know how many precincts these folks waddled into, their residency or legal status or NOTHING about them.

We don't get to see the accounting for those MILLION attempted votes. But any reasonable person will suspect that a percentage of those folks should go to jail for election fraud. Or terminal laziness and sloth at least..

So you don't have any evidence of voter fraud either.

So what happens with 'provisional ballots' in California? I was in my polling place when a woman 'waddled in' after waiting 10 minutes in line, and found out her name was not on the list of voters for that polling place. So she cast a provisional ballot.

Provisional Voting | California Secretary of State
What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?


Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election.

Any reasonable person would suspect that provisional ballots are generally used for what they were intended for since there is no evidence of widespread abuse.

Unreasonable persons just make up crap to support their own bias.

Yet -- here we are 3 whole weeks past the elections and the Supervisors of Elections in Cali have only "CLEARED" 25% of that massive number of provisionals. There were 900,000 LEFT last Friday. So what you posted is total Bullshit -- because those will NEVER be cleared before the deadline. And the waddling woman you saw LOST IN SPACE, too lazy to figure out her ACTUAL polling place or maybe register at all, could HAVE waddled into 3 polling places on election day.

By cutting people these massive leeways and giving them expectations of being catered to --- you are CREATING A SYSTEM that is ripe for fraud and abuse. And that's why I'm sitting here listening to BOTH SIDES whine about voting abuse when it's CONVENIENT for them to do so. .

The simple fact is --- local, state govts don't do anything well that's FUNDAMENTAL to their responsibilities. And they create opportunities for making sacred processes corrupt.. They need to stop worrying about Big Gulps, and bikeways and shopping bags and FOCUS on their PRIMARY duties.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You need to go back and listen to it again, JoeMoma. Your assertion does not comport with what is said in the full recording.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Then, FlaCalTn, the entire voting system needs to be audited.

We need the president-elect call for that and not impede constitutional procedures re-counts.

 

[JoeMoma]

You need to go back and listen to it again, JoeMoma. Your assertion does not comport with what is said in the full recording.

listen from 0:38 to 0:44.

 

[Syriusly]

Ah, one of those disingenuous 'talking points' attempting to deny what most know, and what most Democrats work at doing every election cycle, herding illegals to polls.

Proof Of Illegal Aliens Voting As Those Called For Jury Duty Claim They Are Not Citizens : Diggers Realm

How can you prove that someone who voted is an illegal alien? Well currently there really is no way. With the current system of voter registration and no requirements to show proof that you're actually a citizen of the United States and therefore eligible to vote at the polls, any idiot can show up and cast a vote that disenfranchises every other single eligible voter in America.

So down to the proof. Harris County, Texas discovered that those called for Jury Duty after registering to vote then went before a judge and said they couldn't serve as a juror because they were not citizens of the United States.

... and of course any search on Google or Yahoo turns up all kinds of info on it, Jake. you should try researching topics once in a while, Jake. This is just one of your lame trolls, not a serious topic.

And again- where is the proof of 'millions of illegal votes' as Trump has claimed?

A few people registering illegally in Texas is not proof of any kind of significant voter fraud.

Voter "fraud" is also winking and nodding at the law and the rules. As in ENCOURAGING folks to just waddle into any ole polling station on election day and expect to be allowed to vote. Circumventing the REGISTRATION process, violates the spirit and letter of the laws.

So now you have over a MILLION PROVISIONAL ballots in Cali that will never be sorted out. Don't know how many precincts these folks waddled into, their residency or legal status or NOTHING about them.

We don't get to see the accounting for those MILLION attempted votes. But any reasonable person will suspect that a percentage of those folks should go to jail for election fraud. Or terminal laziness and sloth at least..

So you don't have any evidence of voter fraud either.

So what happens with 'provisional ballots' in California? I was in my polling place when a woman 'waddled in' after waiting 10 minutes in line, and found out her name was not on the list of voters for that polling place. So she cast a provisional ballot.

Provisional Voting | California Secretary of State
What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?


Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election.

Any reasonable person would suspect that provisional ballots are generally used for what they were intended for since there is no evidence of widespread abuse.

Unreasonable persons just make up crap to support their own bias.

Yet -- here we are 3 whole weeks past the elections and the Supervisors of Elections in Cali have only "CLEARED" 25% of that massive number of provisionals. There were 900,000 LEFT last Friday. So what you posted is total Bullshit -- because those will NEVER be cleared before the deadline. And the waddling woman you saw LOST IN SPACE, too lazy to figure out her ACTUAL polling place or maybe register at all, could HAVE waddled into 3 polling places on election day..

Exactly what is bullshit? Ensuring that Americans are allowed to legally vote?

Maybe they won't be cleared by the deadlines- in which case they won't be counted.

If the American you are accusing of fraud(without any evidence of course- you just like to accuse her without any evidence.....very Trump like) did vote in 3 polling places- then those other votes aren't counted.

Why do you believe that governments never make mistakes, but instead it is always the voters who try to vote who are making the mistake or trying to commit fraud?

Why do you believe suddenly that government is that perfect?

 

[Syriusly]

[
By cutting people these massive leeways and giving them expectations of being catered to --- you are CREATING A SYSTEM that is ripe for fraud and abuse. And that's why I'm sitting here listening to BOTH SIDES whine about voting abuse when it's CONVENIENT for them to do so.

Yet where is the fraud? Some 126,000,000 people cast votes in the election. Yet despite the claims no one has produced any evidence of statistically significant voter fraud.

 

[Syriusly]

You need to go back and listen to it again, JoeMoma. Your assertion does not comport with what is said in the full recording.

listen from 0:38 to 0:44.

Why not provide the actual quote?

Why is it you people prefer Youtube to actual written quotes?

 

[JoeMoma]

Ah, one of those disingenuous 'talking points' attempting to deny what most know, and what most Democrats work at doing every election cycle, herding illegals to polls.

Proof Of Illegal Aliens Voting As Those Called For Jury Duty Claim They Are Not Citizens : Diggers Realm

... and of course any search on Google or Yahoo turns up all kinds of info on it, Jake. you should try researching topics once in a while, Jake. This is just one of your lame trolls, not a serious topic.

And again- where is the proof of 'millions of illegal votes' as Trump has claimed?

A few people registering illegally in Texas is not proof of any kind of significant voter fraud.

Voter "fraud" is also winking and nodding at the law and the rules. As in ENCOURAGING folks to just waddle into any ole polling station on election day and expect to be allowed to vote. Circumventing the REGISTRATION process, violates the spirit and letter of the laws.

So now you have over a MILLION PROVISIONAL ballots in Cali that will never be sorted out. Don't know how many precincts these folks waddled into, their residency or legal status or NOTHING about them.

We don't get to see the accounting for those MILLION attempted votes. But any reasonable person will suspect that a percentage of those folks should go to jail for election fraud. Or terminal laziness and sloth at least..

So you don't have any evidence of voter fraud either.

So what happens with 'provisional ballots' in California? I was in my polling place when a woman 'waddled in' after waiting 10 minutes in line, and found out her name was not on the list of voters for that polling place. So she cast a provisional ballot.

Provisional Voting | California Secretary of State
What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?


Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election.

Any reasonable person would suspect that provisional ballots are generally used for what they were intended for since there is no evidence of widespread abuse.

Unreasonable persons just make up crap to support their own bias.

Yet -- here we are 3 whole weeks past the elections and the Supervisors of Elections in Cali have only "CLEARED" 25% of that massive number of provisionals. There were 900,000 LEFT last Friday. So what you posted is total Bullshit -- because those will NEVER be cleared before the deadline. And the waddling woman you saw LOST IN SPACE, too lazy to figure out her ACTUAL polling place or maybe register at all, could HAVE waddled into 3 polling places on election day..

Exactly what is bullshit? Ensuring that Americans are allowed to legally vote?

Maybe they won't be cleared by the deadlines- in which case they won't be counted.

If the American you are accusing of fraud(without any evidence of course- you just like to accuse her without any evidence.....very Trump like) did vote in 3 polling places- then those other votes aren't counted.

Why do you believe that governments never make mistakes, but instead it is always the voters who try to vote who are making the mistake or trying to commit fraud?

Why do you believe suddenly that government is that perfect?

Wow! Flacaltemm said that local, state governments doesn't do anything well. Where does this "no mistakes" and "govrnment is perfect" come from?

 

[JoeMoma]

You need to go back and listen to it again, JoeMoma. Your assertion does not comport with what is said in the full recording.

listen from 0:38 to 0:44.

Why not provide the actual quote?

Why is it you people prefer Youtube to actual written quotes?

if you watch from 0:38 to 0:44 you will get the actual quote from the horse's own mouth. Sometimes written quotes (transcripts) are not accurate to what was actually said.

 

[Syriusly]

You need to go back and listen to it again, JoeMoma. Your assertion does not comport with what is said in the full recording.

listen from 0:38 to 0:44.

Wow- after listening to the video- I can see why you are so determined not to actually try to quote what President Obama said- since he says nothing to encourage illegal alien voting.

Here is the written transcript:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens -- and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country -- are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

RODRIGUEZ: This has been a huge fear presented especially during this election.

OBAMA: And the reason that fear is promoted is because they don't want people voting. People are discouraged from voting and part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you're not just speaking for yourself. You're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school...

RODRIGUEZ: Your entire community.

OBAMA: ... who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote. But they're counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.

 

[Syriusly]

And again- where is the proof of 'millions of illegal votes' as Trump has claimed?

A few people registering illegally in Texas is not proof of any kind of significant voter fraud.

Voter "fraud" is also winking and nodding at the law and the rules. As in ENCOURAGING folks to just waddle into any ole polling station on election day and expect to be allowed to vote. Circumventing the REGISTRATION process, violates the spirit and letter of the laws.

So now you have over a MILLION PROVISIONAL ballots in Cali that will never be sorted out. Don't know how many precincts these folks waddled into, their residency or legal status or NOTHING about them.

We don't get to see the accounting for those MILLION attempted votes. But any reasonable person will suspect that a percentage of those folks should go to jail for election fraud. Or terminal laziness and sloth at least..

So you don't have any evidence of voter fraud either.

So what happens with 'provisional ballots' in California? I was in my polling place when a woman 'waddled in' after waiting 10 minutes in line, and found out her name was not on the list of voters for that polling place. So she cast a provisional ballot.

Provisional Voting | California Secretary of State
What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?


Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election.

Any reasonable person would suspect that provisional ballots are generally used for what they were intended for since there is no evidence of widespread abuse.

Unreasonable persons just make up crap to support their own bias.

Yet -- here we are 3 whole weeks past the elections and the Supervisors of Elections in Cali have only "CLEARED" 25% of that massive number of provisionals. There were 900,000 LEFT last Friday. So what you posted is total Bullshit -- because those will NEVER be cleared before the deadline. And the waddling woman you saw LOST IN SPACE, too lazy to figure out her ACTUAL polling place or maybe register at all, could HAVE waddled into 3 polling places on election day..

Exactly what is bullshit? Ensuring that Americans are allowed to legally vote?

Maybe they won't be cleared by the deadlines- in which case they won't be counted.

If the American you are accusing of fraud(without any evidence of course- you just like to accuse her without any evidence.....very Trump like) did vote in 3 polling places- then those other votes aren't counted.

Why do you believe that governments never make mistakes, but instead it is always the voters who try to vote who are making the mistake or trying to commit fraud?

Why do you believe suddenly that government is that perfect?

Wow! Flacaltemm said that local, state governments doesn't do anything well. Where does this "no mistakes" and "govrnment us perfect" come from?

Good question- he assumes that the government is perfect at the polling place- so that any voter using a provisional ballot must be either lazy or committing fraud- yet then goes onto say government doesn't do anything well.

 

[Syriusly]

You need to go back and listen to it again, JoeMoma. Your assertion does not comport with what is said in the full recording.

listen from 0:38 to 0:44.

Why not provide the actual quote?

Why is it you people prefer Youtube to actual written quotes?

if you watch from 0:38 to 0:44 you will get the actual quote from the horse's own mouth. Sometimes written quotes (transcripts) are not accurate to what was actually said.

But you paraphrasing what he said- well that must be accurate....

 

[flacaltenn]

And again- where is the proof of 'millions of illegal votes' as Trump has claimed?

A few people registering illegally in Texas is not proof of any kind of significant voter fraud.

Voter "fraud" is also winking and nodding at the law and the rules. As in ENCOURAGING folks to just waddle into any ole polling station on election day and expect to be allowed to vote. Circumventing the REGISTRATION process, violates the spirit and letter of the laws.

So now you have over a MILLION PROVISIONAL ballots in Cali that will never be sorted out. Don't know how many precincts these folks waddled into, their residency or legal status or NOTHING about them.

We don't get to see the accounting for those MILLION attempted votes. But any reasonable person will suspect that a percentage of those folks should go to jail for election fraud. Or terminal laziness and sloth at least..

So you don't have any evidence of voter fraud either.

So what happens with 'provisional ballots' in California? I was in my polling place when a woman 'waddled in' after waiting 10 minutes in line, and found out her name was not on the list of voters for that polling place. So she cast a provisional ballot.

Provisional Voting | California Secretary of State
What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?


Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election.

Any reasonable person would suspect that provisional ballots are generally used for what they were intended for since there is no evidence of widespread abuse.

Unreasonable persons just make up crap to support their own bias.

Yet -- here we are 3 whole weeks past the elections and the Supervisors of Elections in Cali have only "CLEARED" 25% of that massive number of provisionals. There were 900,000 LEFT last Friday. So what you posted is total Bullshit -- because those will NEVER be cleared before the deadline. And the waddling woman you saw LOST IN SPACE, too lazy to figure out her ACTUAL polling place or maybe register at all, could HAVE waddled into 3 polling places on election day..

Exactly what is bullshit? Ensuring that Americans are allowed to legally vote?

Maybe they won't be cleared by the deadlines- in which case they won't be counted.

If the American you are accusing of fraud(without any evidence of course- you just like to accuse her without any evidence.....very Trump like) did vote in 3 polling places- then those other votes aren't counted.

Why do you believe that governments never make mistakes, but instead it is always the voters who try to vote who are making the mistake or trying to commit fraud?

Why do you believe suddenly that government is that perfect?

Wow! Flacaltemm said that local, state governments doesn't do anything well. Where does this "no mistakes" and "govrnment us perfect" come from?

It comes from the frustration of losing my medical coverage for the THIRD TIME since ObamaCare to be. Was on the same Professional Society plan for 25 years prior to that.. Can't even use the broker I had used to get around the exchanges because he's just given up.. And Obama OUTLAWED group coverages like I had for 25 years. It comes from the 3 months I spent fighting with Medicare who declared my Dad dead and caused SocSec to kill him off also. Took a Congressman to fix that.

It comes from Ferguson, where the issue was NOT RACIST COPS -- but a city whose 2nd largest source of income was from fines and penalties of the working poor that they served. A town that according to the DOJ report -- had THREE active warrants and 1.5 arrests per year average for EVERY household in that town. And a reputation of being an incompetent, arrogant bastion of bureaucracy and confusion. With MOST of those warrants being inaccurate or outright bogus.

Don't start that game with me.. If MASTERCARD did voter registration and kept the rolls up to date, it would be three times as accurate, totally customer friendly, ACCOUNTABLE, and cheaper. And you could waltz into your polling place in a freaking bathing suit with NO ID and the nice old person would have a picture of you, your signature, and current data on their screen..

You wouldn't win that snide argument...

 

[JakeStarkey]

You need to go back and listen to it again, JoeMoma. Your assertion does not comport with what is said in the full recording.

listen from 0:38 to 0:44.

You need to listen to the whole recording for context. I am sorry that confirmation bias is clouding your logical thinking.

 

[JoeMoma]

Voter "fraud" is also winking and nodding at the law and the rules. As in ENCOURAGING folks to just waddle into any ole polling station on election day and expect to be allowed to vote. Circumventing the REGISTRATION process, violates the spirit and letter of the laws.

So now you have over a MILLION PROVISIONAL ballots in Cali that will never be sorted out. Don't know how many precincts these folks waddled into, their residency or legal status or NOTHING about them.

We don't get to see the accounting for those MILLION attempted votes. But any reasonable person will suspect that a percentage of those folks should go to jail for election fraud. Or terminal laziness and sloth at least..

So you don't have any evidence of voter fraud either.

So what happens with 'provisional ballots' in California? I was in my polling place when a woman 'waddled in' after waiting 10 minutes in line, and found out her name was not on the list of voters for that polling place. So she cast a provisional ballot.

Provisional Voting | California Secretary of State
What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?


Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election.

Any reasonable person would suspect that provisional ballots are generally used for what they were intended for since there is no evidence of widespread abuse.

Unreasonable persons just make up crap to support their own bias.

Yet -- here we are 3 whole weeks past the elections and the Supervisors of Elections in Cali have only "CLEARED" 25% of that massive number of provisionals. There were 900,000 LEFT last Friday. So what you posted is total Bullshit -- because those will NEVER be cleared before the deadline. And the waddling woman you saw LOST IN SPACE, too lazy to figure out her ACTUAL polling place or maybe register at all, could HAVE waddled into 3 polling places on election day..

Exactly what is bullshit? Ensuring that Americans are allowed to legally vote?

Maybe they won't be cleared by the deadlines- in which case they won't be counted.

If the American you are accusing of fraud(without any evidence of course- you just like to accuse her without any evidence.....very Trump like) did vote in 3 polling places- then those other votes aren't counted.

Why do you believe that governments never make mistakes, but instead it is always the voters who try to vote who are making the mistake or trying to commit fraud?

Why do you believe suddenly that government is that perfect?

Wow! Flacaltemm said that local, state governments doesn't do anything well. Where does this "no mistakes" and "govrnment us perfect" come from?

It comes from the frustration of losing my medical coverage for the THIRD TIME since ObamaCare to be. Was on the same Professional Society plan for 25 years prior to that.. Can't even use the broker I had used to get around the exchanges because he's just given up.. And Obama OUTLAWED group coverages like I had for 25 years. It comes from the 3 months I spent fighting with Medicare who declared my Dad dead and caused SocSec to kill him off also. Took a Congressman to fix that.

It comes from Ferguson, where the issue was NOT RACIST COPS -- but a city whose 2nd largest source of income was from fines and penalties of the working poor that they served. A town that according to the DOJ report -- had THREE active warrants and 1.5 arrests per year average for EVERY household in that town. And a reputation of being an incompetent, arrogant bastion of bureaucracy and confusion. With MOST of those warrants being inaccurate or outright bogus.

Don't start that game with me.. If MASTERCARD did voter registration and kept the rolls up to date, it would be three times as accurate, totally customer friendly, ACCOUNTABLE, and cheaper. And you could waltz into your polling place in a freaking bathing suit with NO ID and the nice old person would have a picture of you, your signature, and current data on their screen..

You wouldn't win that snide argument...

I was asking Syriusly about how he got that you said that government is perfect?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Here is the tape (thanks syrusly:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens -- and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country -- are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

RODRIGUEZ: This has been a huge fear presented especially during this election.

OBAMA: And the reason that fear is promoted is because they don't want people voting. People are discouraged from voting and part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you're not just speaking for yourself. You're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school...

RODRIGUEZ: Your entire community.

OBAMA: ... who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote. But they're counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.

 

[Syriusly]

Voter "fraud" is also winking and nodding at the law and the rules. As in ENCOURAGING folks to just waddle into any ole polling station on election day and expect to be allowed to vote. Circumventing the REGISTRATION process, violates the spirit and letter of the laws.

So now you have over a MILLION PROVISIONAL ballots in Cali that will never be sorted out. Don't know how many precincts these folks waddled into, their residency or legal status or NOTHING about them.

We don't get to see the accounting for those MILLION attempted votes. But any reasonable person will suspect that a percentage of those folks should go to jail for election fraud. Or terminal laziness and sloth at least..

So you don't have any evidence of voter fraud either.

So what happens with 'provisional ballots' in California? I was in my polling place when a woman 'waddled in' after waiting 10 minutes in line, and found out her name was not on the list of voters for that polling place. So she cast a provisional ballot.

Provisional Voting | California Secretary of State
What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?


Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election.

Any reasonable person would suspect that provisional ballots are generally used for what they were intended for since there is no evidence of widespread abuse.

Unreasonable persons just make up crap to support their own bias.

Yet -- here we are 3 whole weeks past the elections and the Supervisors of Elections in Cali have only "CLEARED" 25% of that massive number of provisionals. There were 900,000 LEFT last Friday. So what you posted is total Bullshit -- because those will NEVER be cleared before the deadline. And the waddling woman you saw LOST IN SPACE, too lazy to figure out her ACTUAL polling place or maybe register at all, could HAVE waddled into 3 polling places on election day..

Exactly what is bullshit? Ensuring that Americans are allowed to legally vote?

Maybe they won't be cleared by the deadlines- in which case they won't be counted.

If the American you are accusing of fraud(without any evidence of course- you just like to accuse her without any evidence.....very Trump like) did vote in 3 polling places- then those other votes aren't counted.

Why do you believe that governments never make mistakes, but instead it is always the voters who try to vote who are making the mistake or trying to commit fraud?

Why do you believe suddenly that government is that perfect?

Wow! Flacaltemm said that local, state governments doesn't do anything well. Where does this "no mistakes" and "govrnment us perfect" come from?

It comes from the frustration of losing my medical coverage for the THIRD TIME since ObamaCare to be. Was on the same Professional Society plan for 25 years prior to that.. Can't even use the broker I had used to get around the exchanges because he's just given up.. And Obama OUTLAWED group coverages like I had for 25 years. It comes from the 3 months I spent fighting with Medicare who declared my Dad dead and caused SocSec to kill him off also. Took a Congressman to fix that.

It comes from Ferguson, where the issue was NOT RACIST COPS -- but a city whose 2nd largest source of income was from fines and penalties of the working poor that they served. A town that according to the DOJ report -- had THREE active warrants and 1.5 arrests per year average for EVERY household in that town. And a reputation of being an incompetent, arrogant bastion of bureaucracy and confusion. With MOST of those warrants being inaccurate or outright bogus.

Don't start that game with me.. If MASTERCARD did voter registration and kept the rolls up to date, it would be three times as accurate, totally customer friendly, ACCOUNTABLE, and cheaper. And you could waltz into your polling place in a freaking bathing suit with NO ID and the nice old person would have a picture of you, your signature, and current data on their screen..

You wouldn't win that snide argument...

And that of course has nothing to do with your accusation that the woman at my polling place was lazy- you just assumed that the government was right- and that she was 'waddling' into the polling place in error.

And of course that has nothing to do with the actual topic- which is the lack of evidence of voter fraud.

I get that you are frustrated- but your frustration about everything else doesn't mean we should give you a pass when it comes to addressing the topic.

 

[Care4all]

Ah, one of those disingenuous 'talking points' attempting to deny what most know, and what most Democrats work at doing every election cycle, herding illegals to polls.

Proof Of Illegal Aliens Voting As Those Called For Jury Duty Claim They Are Not Citizens : Diggers Realm

How can you prove that someone who voted is an illegal alien? Well currently there really is no way. With the current system of voter registration and no requirements to show proof that you're actually a citizen of the United States and therefore eligible to vote at the polls, any idiot can show up and cast a vote that disenfranchises every other single eligible voter in America.

So down to the proof. Harris County, Texas discovered that those called for Jury Duty after registering to vote then went before a judge and said they couldn't serve as a juror because they were not citizens of the United States.

... and of course any search on Google or Yahoo turns up all kinds of info on it, Jake. you should try researching topics once in a while, Jake. This is just one of your lame trolls, not a serious topic.

All of that is simply NOT TRUE....

Immigrants, since after 9/11...beginning in 2002, have been issued DIFFERENT driver's licenses than Citizens, and since the REAL ID ACT, states are required to get a birth certificate or military id or passport as proof of citizenship when applying for a driver's license....AND citizens that have never provided proof of citizenship can no longer renew their driver's licenses via the internet or mail, without providing the State DMV with this proof....it just happened to me a couple of years ago, when my renewal of my Driver's license came due, I had to go in and provide proof of citizenship before I was issued my renewal...

And state DMV's that automatically offer voter registration enrollment...they only do this for the citizen driver's license people and the immigrants that are required to show other means of identity and get a driver's license that says something like not good for federal uses on them, so no voting on them...are NOT automatically signed up to vote and do not get a voter's registration card....

 

[JakeStarkey]

So you don't have any evidence of voter fraud either.

So what happens with 'provisional ballots' in California? I was in my polling place when a woman 'waddled in' after waiting 10 minutes in line, and found out her name was not on the list of voters for that polling place. So she cast a provisional ballot.

Provisional Voting | California Secretary of State
What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?


Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election.

Any reasonable person would suspect that provisional ballots are generally used for what they were intended for since there is no evidence of widespread abuse.

Unreasonable persons just make up crap to support their own bias.

Yet -- here we are 3 whole weeks past the elections and the Supervisors of Elections in Cali have only "CLEARED" 25% of that massive number of provisionals. There were 900,000 LEFT last Friday. So what you posted is total Bullshit -- because those will NEVER be cleared before the deadline. And the waddling woman you saw LOST IN SPACE, too lazy to figure out her ACTUAL polling place or maybe register at all, could HAVE waddled into 3 polling places on election day..

Exactly what is bullshit? Ensuring that Americans are allowed to legally vote?

Maybe they won't be cleared by the deadlines- in which case they won't be counted.

If the American you are accusing of fraud(without any evidence of course- you just like to accuse her without any evidence.....very Trump like) did vote in 3 polling places- then those other votes aren't counted.

Why do you believe that governments never make mistakes, but instead it is always the voters who try to vote who are making the mistake or trying to commit fraud?

Why do you believe suddenly that government is that perfect?

Wow! Flacaltemm said that local, state governments doesn't do anything well. Where does this "no mistakes" and "govrnment us perfect" come from?

It comes from the frustration of losing my medical coverage for the THIRD TIME since ObamaCare to be. Was on the same Professional Society plan for 25 years prior to that.. Can't even use the broker I had used to get around the exchanges because he's just given up.. And Obama OUTLAWED group coverages like I had for 25 years. It comes from the 3 months I spent fighting with Medicare who declared my Dad dead and caused SocSec to kill him off also. Took a Congressman to fix that.

It comes from Ferguson, where the issue was NOT RACIST COPS -- but a city whose 2nd largest source of income was from fines and penalties of the working poor that they served. A town that according to the DOJ report -- had THREE active warrants and 1.5 arrests per year average for EVERY household in that town. And a reputation of being an incompetent, arrogant bastion of bureaucracy and confusion. With MOST of those warrants being inaccurate or outright bogus.

Don't start that game with me.. If MASTERCARD did voter registration and kept the rolls up to date, it would be three times as accurate, totally customer friendly, ACCOUNTABLE, and cheaper. And you could waltz into your polling place in a freaking bathing suit with NO ID and the nice old person would have a picture of you, your signature, and current data on their screen..

You wouldn't win that snide argument...

I was asking Syriusly about how he got that you said that government is perfect?

Whatever flacaltn said is a distraction from what Obama actually said, which you have perverted to the opposite.

He was telling citizens to vote so that the needs of the non-citizens are also heard and met.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Yet -- here we are 3 whole weeks past the elections and the Supervisors of Elections in Cali have only "CLEARED" 25% of that massive number of provisionals. There were 900,000 LEFT last Friday. So what you posted is total Bullshit -- because those will NEVER be cleared before the deadline. And the waddling woman you saw LOST IN SPACE, too lazy to figure out her ACTUAL polling place or maybe register at all, could HAVE waddled into 3 polling places on election day..

Exactly what is bullshit? Ensuring that Americans are allowed to legally vote?

Maybe they won't be cleared by the deadlines- in which case they won't be counted.

If the American you are accusing of fraud(without any evidence of course- you just like to accuse her without any evidence.....very Trump like) did vote in 3 polling places- then those other votes aren't counted.

Why do you believe that governments never make mistakes, but instead it is always the voters who try to vote who are making the mistake or trying to commit fraud?

Why do you believe suddenly that government is that perfect?

Wow! Flacaltemm said that local, state governments doesn't do anything well. Where does this "no mistakes" and "govrnment us perfect" come from?

It comes from the frustration of losing my medical coverage for the THIRD TIME since ObamaCare to be. Was on the same Professional Society plan for 25 years prior to that.. Can't even use the broker I had used to get around the exchanges because he's just given up.. And Obama OUTLAWED group coverages like I had for 25 years. It comes from the 3 months I spent fighting with Medicare who declared my Dad dead and caused SocSec to kill him off also. Took a Congressman to fix that.

It comes from Ferguson, where the issue was NOT RACIST COPS -- but a city whose 2nd largest source of income was from fines and penalties of the working poor that they served. A town that according to the DOJ report -- had THREE active warrants and 1.5 arrests per year average for EVERY household in that town. And a reputation of being an incompetent, arrogant bastion of bureaucracy and confusion. With MOST of those warrants being inaccurate or outright bogus.

Don't start that game with me.. If MASTERCARD did voter registration and kept the rolls up to date, it would be three times as accurate, totally customer friendly, ACCOUNTABLE, and cheaper. And you could waltz into your polling place in a freaking bathing suit with NO ID and the nice old person would have a picture of you, your signature, and current data on their screen..

You wouldn't win that snide argument...

I was asking Syriusly about how he got that you said that government is perfect?

Whatever flacaltn said is a distraction from what Obama actually said, which you have perverted to the opposite.

He was telling citizens to vote so that the needs of the non-citizens are also heard and met.

--LOL

nope that is not what he said