When you think about it, the Russian Collusion accusation is just plain stupid.

[Lesh]

It is a fact that Russia targeted democrats in the 2016 election and that the Trump campaign welcomed their assistance. An honorable man would have told them to fuck off in no uncertain terms but he didn't. He used the hacked emails as the centerpiece of his campaign. Even if it turns out there was no direct contact between the campaign and the Russians there is still the fact that he knowingly used stolen information rather than try to win solely on his merits.

How can anyone take these posts seriously about how Trump Campaign “should have been more honorable” to refusevthe information when these same people have no problem with the DNC using proxies and agents to work with Russians to get “research” on Trump?

See what blind fury will do to your brain?

It’s not about “honor” . We all know Trump has none. That is not in question .

The fact that he did not notify the FBI when offered illegal foreign aid speaks to a much deeper and in fact darker “ problem”

 

[kyzr]

Stepping back from the hilarity, you have to admit that the whole concept of enlisting Russian hackers to "steal" a US Presidential election is just plain ridiculous. What idiot cooked up this conspiracy theory, and why were the Dems so eager to jump aboard?

Fortunately this is one of the questions that WILL be answered. Better put on your running shoes, Dems.

WTF are you talking about? WHy would Trump do what we SAW him do?

On national TV he ASKED Russia to "find the e-mails". He claims he was joking but the Russians didn't think that was a joke. That NIGHT they attacked Clinton's server (unsuccessfully).

And remember...Trump had been warned that the Russians were doing all this and chose to accept that help . If Trump or his campaign was approached by the Russians it was their patriotic DUTY to notify the FBI. They did NOT do that in at least the Trump Tower .

Was Trump just a "passive and knowing recipient" of Russian aid? That may not rise to the level of an illegal act but the American people need to know if that was the case

1. Trump asked Russia to find Hillary's 30,000 missing SUBPOENAED emails. Who else could destroy evidence and get away with it?
2. The Trump Tower meeting was a democrat setup https://www.realclearinvestigations..._meeting_looks_increasingly_like_a_setup.html

Wait. So you're admitting to Russian collusion. Interesting

What part of "no collusion and no obstruction" don't you understand? You've been drinking your own KoolAde for so long you actually believe the lies.

 

[kyzr]

2. The Trump Tower meeting was a democrat setup https://www.realclearinvestigations..._meeting_looks_increasingly_like_a_setup.html

From your nonsense link

The second line of evidence reframing the Trump Tower meeting -- after the Ohr-Steele-Simpson correspondence – was first reported in June by RealClearInvestigations. It shows that, starting in March 2016, FBI confidential sources and other figures associated with Western intelligence services and the Clinton campaign approached the Trump team promising damaging information on Clinton. The Trump Tower meeting appears to have been the most successful of these approaches, since it was the one instance where the Trump campaign signaled it was willing to receive incriminating information on its opponent.

So the unsubstantiated claim here is that CLINTON campaign officials and FBI were the people who went to the Trump campaign to offer foreign help to the Trump campaign?

A. There is zero evidence to support this nonsense

B. It would STILL be illegal to accept this

since it was the one instance where the Trump campaign signaled it was willing to receive incriminating information on its opponent.

That willingness and in fact ACT ...was illegal. The fact that the Trump campaign did NOT notify the FBI...points to a willingness to act illegally

The meeting was a nothingberder, so says Mueller, i.e. no collusion and no obstruction. So you're still batting zero. Its over. All done. Trump wins.
Focus on 2020.

 

[imawhosure]

Stepping back from the hilarity, you have to admit that the whole concept of enlisting Russian hackers to "steal" a US Presidential election is just plain ridiculous. What idiot cooked up this conspiracy theory, and why were the Dems so eager to jump aboard?

Fortunately this is one of the questions that WILL be answered. Better put on your running shoes, Dems.

WTF are you talking about? WHy would Trump do what we SAW him do?

On national TV he ASKED Russia to "find the e-mails". He claims he was joking but the Russians didn't think that was a joke. That NIGHT they attacked Clinton's server (unsuccessfully).

And remember...Trump had been warned that the Russians were doing all this and chose to accept that help . If Trump or his campaign was approached by the Russians it was their patriotic DUTY to notify the FBI. They did NOT do that in at least the Trump Tower .

Was Trump just a "passive and knowing recipient" of Russian aid? That may not rise to the level of an illegal act but the American people need to know if that was the case

1. Trump asked Russia to find Hillary's 30,000 missing SUBPOENAED emails. Who else could destroy evidence and get away with it?
2. The Trump Tower meeting was a democrat setup https://www.realclearinvestigations..._meeting_looks_increasingly_like_a_setup.html

Wait. So you're admitting to Russian collusion. Interesting

What part of "no collusion and no obstruction" don't you understand? You've been drinking your own KoolAde for so long you actually believe the lies.

No they don't, they just wanted to keep blowing their trumpets off key into the 2020 election. That was the whole purpose, as just like 2016, if they could keep the special counsel going, none of the hoaxers could be indicted because of OBSTRUCTION of the special counsel. Keep all of that going into 2020, get a Democrat elected President, and the Dems were off the hook!

Didn't happen that way though Leftists, and now it is going to be OPEN SEASON ON YOUR PEOPLE, legally of course, unlike you-)

 

[gtopa1]

It is a fact that Russia targeted democrats in the 2016 election and that the Trump campaign welcomed their assistance. An honorable man would have told them to fuck off in no uncertain terms but he didn't. He used the hacked emails as the centerpiece of his campaign. Even if it turns out there was no direct contact between the campaign and the Russians there is still the fact that he knowingly used stolen information rather than try to win solely on his merits.

According to Mueller Trump's mob DID tell them to fuck off. Hillary accepted about $140,000,000.

Greg

 

[LeftofLeft]

It is a fact that Russia targeted democrats in the 2016 election and that the Trump campaign welcomed their assistance. An honorable man would have told them to fuck off in no uncertain terms but he didn't. He used the hacked emails as the centerpiece of his campaign. Even if it turns out there was no direct contact between the campaign and the Russians there is still the fact that he knowingly used stolen information rather than try to win solely on his merits.

How can anyone take these posts seriously about how Trump Campaign “should have been more honorable” to refusevthe information when these same people have no problem with the DNC using proxies and agents to work with Russians to get “research” on Trump?

See what blind fury will do to your brain?

It’s not about “honor” . We all know Trump has none. That is not in question .

The fact that he did not notify the FBI when offered illegal foreign aid speaks to a much deeper and in fact darker “ problem”

How legal and honorable was it for the DNC to use proxies to get foreign “aid”? The fact that you people see no problem with that is the darkest part of the problem at the core.

 

[Lesh]

According to Mueller Trump's mob DID tell them to fuck off.

According to Mueller? That implies that you have seen the Report. You haven't have you....

 

[gtopa1]

According to Mueller Trump's mob DID tell them to fuck off.

According to Mueller? That implies that you have seen the Report. You haven't have you....

#MuellerDenier!!!

lmao

Greg

 

[Lesh]

According to Mueller Trump's mob DID tell them to fuck off.

According to Mueller? That implies that you have seen the Report. You haven't have you....

#MuellerDenier!!!

lmao

Greg

There's nothing to deny...the report is being kept hidden

 

[Hale]

There's simply no plausible reason why Trump would collude with Russia. That leaves us wondering why the Dems chose this path, and made these ridiculous allegations...

I think their motivations were projection and guilt. And I think we're about to find out the truth.

 

[sealybobo]

Stepping back from the hilarity, you have to admit that the whole concept of enlisting Russian hackers to "steal" a US Presidential election is just plain ridiculous. What idiot cooked up this conspiracy theory, and why were the Dems so eager to jump aboard?

Fortunately this is one of the questions that WILL be answered. Better put on your running shoes, Dems.

The probe caught plenty of ppl. Just the Godfather (naturally) didn't get caught.

Fox's list from someday. I guess they don't date their articles.

Who's been charged by Mueller in the Russia probe so far?

Man there are a lot of these threads tonight.

Multiple investigations continue into the Blob.

Sure by the shit show that is the Dem led House.

You lefty loons sure are ridiculous.

No...

The Justice Department is investigating the blob (still). From the AP:

Enjoy:

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are pursuing at least two known criminal inquiries involving Trump or people in his orbit, one involving his inaugural committee and another focused on the hush-money scandal that led his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, to plead guilty last year to campaign finance violations.

The president also faces inquiries from New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, who recently opened a civil inquiry into Cohen’s claims that Trump exaggerated his wealth when seeking loans for real estate projects and a failed bid to buy the NFL’s Buffalo Bills. Meanwhile, a state regulatory entity is looking into whether Trump gave false information to insurance companies.

The House is just getting warmed up.

Sure in NY. The shit show that is the Dem led House sure ain't looking to good.

Voters are watching and 2020 is right around the corner.

Go Dems.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) said Mueller “clearly and explicitly is not exonerating the President, and we must hear from AG Barr about his decision making and see all the underlying evidence for the American people to know all the facts.”

 

[sealybobo]

What else did Mueller uncover?
We don’t know much, and there are still many unanswered questions.

Very few members of even the Justice Department have seen the full report and Barr quoted only a few lines from Mueller’s report in his letter on Sunday.

According to Barr, Mueller wrote that the “investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

The special counsel also stated that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

 

[sealybobo]

John Dean, former White House counsel to President Richard M. Nixon, warned that Attorney General William Barr may be hiding something “fairly ugly” inside the report filed by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Barr’s summary of the report said Mueller had found no evidence of collusion between Russia and the 2016 campaign of President Donald Trump.

Mueller, Barr wrote, did not exonerate Trump of obstruction allegations. However, Barr said he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had concluded there wasn’t sufficient evidence to make that accusation against the president.

But Dean found the conclusion ― and the phrasing ― to be very curious.

“He put a little lipstick on something that might’ve been fairly ugly,”

 

[sealybobo]

Members of Congress received a four-page letter Sunday afternoon from Attorney General William Barr summarizing the report’s findings. The letter said that Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein found the evidence “is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense,” and that the investigation did not find collusion with Russia.

House Democrats held a conference call Saturday to discuss next moves while awaiting Barr’s letter while Congress demands access to the full report. Lawmakers repeated those demands Sunday after Barr sent in his summary, saying they should be able to review the underlying evidence that led to the report’s conclusion.

 

[sealybobo]

Trump Wasn't Totally Exonerated By Mueller -- No Matter What He And His Allies Claim | HuffPost

 

[Hale]

The special counsel also stated that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

We're hearing this millions of times, and it's a fundamentally stupid statement.

It could be said by ANY judge at ANY trial where a person was found innocent. It means nothing.

 

[sealybobo]

The special counsel also stated that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

We're hearing this millions of times, and it's a fundamentally stupid statement.

It could be said by ANY judge at ANY trial where a person was found innocent. It means nothing.

Lets see the full report. If not, fuck you guys. See you in November 2020. RIGGED! Crooked!!! Corrupt!! Drain the swamp my ass.

I wish I didn't invest one second on the Mueller report had I known Barr would just cover it all up.

Who concluded that Trump was not guilty? Oh yea, Trump cronies.

What a fucking hoot!!!

 

[sealybobo]

The special counsel also stated that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

We're hearing this millions of times, and it's a fundamentally stupid statement.

It could be said by ANY judge at ANY trial where a person was found innocent. It means nothing.

in Barr’s view the president did not commit any crimes.

Perhaps the biggest question surrounding Barr’s letter is what evidence the special counsel found that Trump was involved in obstruction of justice. Barr wrote that Mueller’s report essentially left it open as to whether Trump committed such a felony ― claiming Mueller presented evidence “on both sides of the question,” and “ultimately determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment.” Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein then took it on themselves to decide that Trump shouldn’t be charged.

This element of Barr’s summary caused an immediate backlash from Democrats, including House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler, who tweeted that there should be full transparency over how Barr came to his decision and a thorough detailing of the evidence surrounding obstruction of justice.

 

[sealybobo]

pushback over Barr and Rosenstein’s decision is that they are both Trump appointees. Barr also wrote an unusual memo to Rod Rosenstein last year ― before his nomination for attorney general ― in which he heavily criticized the special counsel investigation and specifically singled out Mueller’s probe into potential obstruction of justice as a point of disagreement.

What Did Mueller Find About Collusion?
Although Barr’s letter says that the special counsel did not find evidence to establish a conspiracy charge, there have been continuous reports of meetings and communications between campaign officials and Russian officials or proxies. Even if these interactions did not reach the high bar necessary for a charge of criminal conspiracy, there are still major questions over how extensive these connections were and those involved.

 

[sealybobo]

the full Mueller report likely gives more details about the Russian attempts to contact the Trump campaign, as well as the extent to which Trump associates such as Roger Stone were communicating with WikiLeaks and what Trump knew about such interactions. It may also reveal more about incidents such as Donald Trump Jr.’s secret meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer in 2016 at Trump Tower in Manhattan.