whatever happened to Obama's "civilian national security force"?

[whitehall]

When he was campaigning in July of '08 Obama made this shocking statement "We cannot rely on the military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set". "We've got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded as the military". Was Obama pandering to his extremist violent left wing base? Was he advocating a new revolution? Did he give food for thought to nut cases like Laughner? Maybe Obama made good on his campaign promise. Maybe there is a well funded little civilian army training somewhere in the US.

 

[Jeremy]

He still waiting on the red arm bands.

 

[rightwinger]

They are here.....they are monitoring your posts right now.


Did you see that car parked in front of your house yesterday?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

When politicians fail to deliver on their dumber campaign promises, I don't complain about it.

 

[Modbert]

The right wing blogosphere moved on with their faux-outrage to another non-story.

 

[Big Black Dog]

If you squeezed the shit out of Obama, he'd look exactly like Jimmy Carter.

 

[Oddball]

He still waiting on the red arm bands.

 

[Jackson]

It was originally named, "The Corporation" and dropped suddenly for it sounded too socialistic. One part of it passed early on. It was going to be a VERY expensive program and very detailed. A civilian army composed first of youth that just graduated from highschool for two years brainwashing, er, training in community service.

Then it was going to go from voluntary to mandatory and be part of the educational program even in elementary schools. I forget it's name now, but it is in operation, but perhaps watered down, I don;'t know.

 

[uscitizen]

Ohh about the same thing that happed to Bush who promised for the USA not to be the police force of the world and not be into nation building if he was elected.
to reduce spending, blah, blah.

 

[Greenbeard]

whatever happened to Obama's "civilian national security force"?

Pretty much what he said would happen. His "civilian national security force" notion essentially amounted to three concrete things: 1) expanding AmeriCorps, 2) expanding the Foreign Service, and 3) making it easier to connect people to volunteering opportunities. Here:

Obama, July 2, Colorado Springs, CO: [As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots [from 75,000] and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.

People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We'll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we're going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set.

We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We need to use technology to connect people to service. We'll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You'll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You'll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up.​

So what happened to it?

Well, the AmeriCorps expansion became law only a few months after he took office:

The major provisions of the legislation are:

• Establishes four new service corps to address key needs in low income communities: a Clean Energy Corps to encourage energy efficiency and conservation; an Education Corps to help increase student engagement, achievement and graduation; a Healthy Futures Corps to improve health care access; and a Veterans Service Corps to enhance services for veterans.
  
• Increases the number of volunteers nationwide to 250,000, up from 75,000. These new service opportunities will include the expansion of existing service programs, like AmeriCorps, as well as the four new service corps focused on education, health care, energy and veterans. All service programs established under the bill will be overseen by the Corporation for National and Community Service.
  
• Increases the full-time education award service members receive in exchange for their work to $5,350 for 2010. This award would also be linked to match future increases in the Pell Grant scholarship in order to keep up with rising college costs.
  
• Establishes the Summer of Service program that engages middle and high school students in volunteer activities in their communities and allows them to earn a $500 education award to be used for college costs. Students will be eligible to participate in two terms of service and earn up to a total of $1,000.
  
• Establishes Youth Engagement Zones, a new service-learning program to engage low-income high school students and out-of-school youth in volunteer efforts that address challenges in their local communities. The program will encourage partnerships between community-based organizations and schools in high-need communities and apply real world activities to teach students about a certain topic. For example, volunteering in a homeless shelter could supplement a class about poverty.
  
• Expands opportunities for disadvantaged youth, including doubling the resources available to engage youth with disabilities, to become more involved with service and offers people of all ages and those from diverse backgrounds introduction to service.
  
• Establishes a new office for service opportunities for Native Americans.
  
• Expands the focus of the National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC) to include disaster relief, infrastructure improvement, environmental and energy conservation, and urban and rural development.
  
• Encourages service partnerships with other federal agencies and increases the participation of disadvantaged youth to 50 percent of program participants by 2011.
  
• Establishes an alumni corps of former participants who can be called to service during times of disaster and other emergencies.
  
• Encourages scientists, technicians and mathematicians to participate in service programs to help keep our nation competitive.
  
• Creates two new fellowships to engage social entrepreneurs, boomers and retirees, the private sector and Americans from all generations into service. Older Americans will be allowed to transfer their awards to a child, foster child or grandchild to help them pay for college.
  
  1. ServeAmerica Fellowships: ServeAmerica Fellows are individuals who propose their own plans for serving in their communities to address national needs and are matched up with a service sponsor.
  
  2. Silver Scholarships and Encore Fellowships: These programs offer Americans, age 55 or older, post-career service opportunities as well as entrance into new careers in the public or nonprofit sector. Silver Scholars will be able to earn up to $1,000 in exchange for 350 hours of service.
  
• Builds a nationwide service infrastructure through community-building investments, social entrepreneurship, and programs to support and generate new volunteers.
  
  1. Community Solutions Fund: Creates a Community Solutions Fund pilot program that awards competitive matching grants to social entrepreneur venture funds in order to provide community organizations with the resources to replicate or expand proven solutions to community challenges, including a new focus on leveraging public private partnerships in small communities and rural areas. (Examples of service organizations that were launched by social entrepreneurs include Teach for America, City Year, Citizen Schools, Jump Start, Working Today, an organization that provides affordable, portable health benefits to 100,000 Americans, and the SEED school, the nation’s first public urban boarding school.)
  
  2. Volunteer Generation Fund: Provides grants to improve the quality and capacity of organizations to work with volunteers, and to create innovations in volunteerism in the areas of recruitment, training and management.
  
• Expands the Volunteers for Prosperity program which encourages highly skilled professionals to serve internationally in targeted areas of need such as global health.
  
• Includes a Call to Service Campaign to launch a national campaign encouraging all Americans to engage in service and to observe September 11 as a National Day of Service and Remembrance
  
• Establishes the Campuses of Service to support and recognize institutions of higher education with exemplary service-learning programs and assists students in the pursuit of public service careers.

For the Foreign Service, Obama offered expansions of it in both his FY2010 and FY2011 budgets.

And as for the third prong, the volunteer.gov site originally launched as part of George W. Bush's USA Freedom Corps was replaced by Obama's serve.gov, which will connect you to volunteering opportunities to your heart's content.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

THEY'RE COMING!

They're gonna lock you in FEMA camps.

 

[whitehall]

We aren't talking about building a habitat for humanity or teaching ungrateful 3rd world people how to boil water. Obama said "we need to meet national security objectives". I guess you could say the "new black panthers" meet Obama's expectations when they stand in front of voting places wearing uniforms and armed with nightsticks. Maybe that's why he instructed the attorney general not to prosecute them. Maybe B. Hussein has a community organizer's opinion of national security and that's why he hired a former leader of a looting and arson rampage to be on the "green jobs" board. Anything is possible with this crowd.

 

[whitehall]

They are here.....they are monitoring your posts right now.


Did you see that car parked in front of your house yesterday?

What's your story Kramden? Why pretend to be a "rightwinger" when you are obviously the opposite? Is it a George Soros trick or maybe an old Alinski technique?

 

[bucs90]

Easy answer:

Obama realized it was gonna be harder to bring in a Communist Dictatorship than Bill Ayers and Van Jones told him it would be.

The question is why would he want a civilian force, as well funded and trained as the military?

Because cops and soldiers are tied down by the 4th amendment. Civilians are not. A private, civilian security officer can search your car if you are on their property with no cause or warrant. A cop cannot. A soldier cannot.

Basically, a civilian security force could violate your 4th amendment rights where a cop/soldier could not. Easy answer.

 

[whitehall]

Easy answer:

Obama realized it was gonna be harder to bring in a Communist Dictatorship than Bill Ayers and Van Jones told him it would be.

The question is why would he want a civilian force, as well funded and trained as the military?

Because cops and soldiers are tied down by the 4th amendment. Civilians are not. A private, civilian security officer can search your car if you are on their property with no cause or warrant. A cop cannot. A soldier cannot.

Basically, a civilian security force could violate your 4th amendment rights where a cop/soldier could not. Easy answer.

A civilian security force which is funded as well as the Military and controlled by the federal government is everything the Founding Fathers feared when they created the document that limited federal power, the US Constitution. The possibility of a secret civilian army training camp funded by "stimulous" money is something to consider but the fact that the president would dare to suggest such an army is shocking and disturbing on many levels and the fact that the liberal media would tolerate such an outrageous affront to the Constitution because they support radical liberal administrations is also cause for great concern.

 

[bucs90]

Easy answer:

Obama realized it was gonna be harder to bring in a Communist Dictatorship than Bill Ayers and Van Jones told him it would be.

The question is why would he want a civilian force, as well funded and trained as the military?

Because cops and soldiers are tied down by the 4th amendment. Civilians are not. A private, civilian security officer can search your car if you are on their property with no cause or warrant. A cop cannot. A soldier cannot.

Basically, a civilian security force could violate your 4th amendment rights where a cop/soldier could not. Easy answer.

A civilian security force which is funded as well as the Military and controlled by the federal government is everything the Founding Fathers feared when they created the document that limited federal power, the US Constitution. The possibility of a secret civilian army training camp funded by "stimulous" money is something to consider but the fact that the president would dare to suggest such an army is shocking and disturbing on many levels and the fact that the liberal media would tolerate such an outrageous affront to the Constitution because they support radical liberal administrations is also cause for great concern.

There is 45 billion of unspent money from stimulus.

But.....there aren't 200,000 missing 18-39 year olds being trained in secret camps, so we're safe.

I think Obama was just acting stupidly, and assumed that his far left ideals would be welcomed by all. Ooops.

 

[FA_Q2]

The right wing blogosphere moved on with their faux-outrage to another non-story.

So, is that you denying that he ever said that or stating that it is a good idea?

 

[whitehall]

I don't want to get in a conspiracy piss*ing contest about the issue but suffice to say that the Administration could fund the education camp of half a million kids without breaking a fiscal sweat. The administration could have added funding to the health care bill. Who read it? Kennedy's CIA fed and trained and housed a secret little Cuban army in exile and nobody knew until the president got cold feet and abandoned the whole mess at the Bay of Pigs.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,



1. Well this should of made every sane person not vote for him, which I think it did, because didn't Hitler do the same thing?
2. And Obama throws this out there before he was elected, and the liberals go for it?
3. I wonder how many Jews voted for Obama?
4. Are liberals insane is the real question here, and should of been the title to this thread.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[thereisnospoon]

They are here.....they are monitoring your posts right now.


Did you see that car parked in front of your house yesterday?

what's the matter, wingy?
How deep in the bag are you for this Obama person?
Are you that suckered that you believe he can do no wrong?