What is the Party of No Ideas (the Dims) proposing we should cut $$$

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    The liberal Democratics love to pretend that the GOP is the Party of No.

    But the GOP has come up with a proposal to cut 2.5 TRILLION dollars of spending. If we accept the rough figure that we are slightly over 14 TRILLION dollars in debt, then 2.5 TRILLION in cuts is pretty substantial (even spread out over 10 years). http://rsc.jordan.house.gov/UploadedFiles/Spending_Reduction_Act--TWOPAGER.pdf

    We can argue about the wisdom of WHICH programs, etc., would be cut. There will be claims that the GOP is seeking to kill off the poor and the aged. "Those heartless GOP bastards." Standard liberal Democrat Parody propaganda. (Of course, they will have to find a way to make those irresponsible claims in a civil fashion, now.)

    Whatever.

    Here's the question:

    What budgetary items are the liberal Democratics telling us they would cut?

    Are there some budget lines, items etc. upon which the GOP and the liberal Democratics already agree? (If so, let's get to it. Start trimming.) I'm sure there are items and lines, etc., upon which they will absolutely DISAGREE. Fair enough. That's what debates are for.

    So, now, I want to hear from liberal Democratics. How much cutting are YOU guys proposing? In what specific areas? What lines of the budget? What programs?

    In short, stop pointing your stubby little fingers at the GOP. Step up to the plate or to the mic. Take your hacks.

    What kind of budget proposals are YOU guys coming up with to address the dire problems associated with our massive debt problem?

    (Later, I'd also like to hear how the various states are going to deal with the retirement program shortfalls? Any proposals on that. Not that it matters all that much. But I believe the numbers in THAT realm make the Federal figures pale in comparison.... So, somebody sooner or later is going to have to admit the problem and we are all going to have to confront it. That should be a pretty harmonious, civil discussion. I'm sure.)
     
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    We have been down this road of cutting proposed increases in future spending several times and we are still 14T in debt.
    Wake up and quit being a partisan stooge.
     
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    The partisan stooge is you. And your post is proof.

    You may not LIKE the proposals, and you might have other quibbles, but you cannot deny that the GOP has placed on the table a substantive proposal FOR cutting 2.5 Trillion in 10 years.

    And the question is what liberal Democratics propose.

    Naturally, YOU dodged, ducked, bobbed, weaved, deflected and evaded. We all see through that shit, lad.

    You are not alone. In fact, your response makes you just another typical spineless hypocritical partisan hack lib.
     
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    Are you kidding me? Democrats to stop spending money? Why, you must be on drugs. As long as there is ink in the Treasury Department to print more money, the Democrats will be spending the hell out of it. Spend more. Don't cut anything. The poor, the disadvantaged, the illegal aliens, and those that don't know any better who will believe the Democratic line of horseshit need to be fed dollars we don't have.
     
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    That has been the way of the dems, so why expect any difference? However the problem is the Republicans have become just as bad over the last couple of decades.
    They used to keep each other balanced out a bit.
     
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    The military....Period.

    Granted that there are gobs of waste in procurement, unworkable weapons systems and massive over-deployment of troops, they can't ever seem to be pinned down on the nitty-gritty details of just what they'd cut.

    But don't you dare eliminate the CPB or NEA. :rolleyes:
     
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    We spend more in one month in Iraq than in a year on CPB.
     
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    I think you might be on to something.

    We are in horrible financial shape. We are debt-ridden and in deep doo doo. And the liberal Democrat answer? Borrow more and spend more. (And, of course, on the "principle" that what WE earn isn't really ours, they also favor "tax" more.)

    So, they aren't serious about attending to the fact that the debt problem is unsustainable and that we are fiscally killing ourselves if we don't get it remedied.

    But it would be kind of nice to see them STOP pointing their fucking fingers for a while and have them start ACTING a little bit like adults.

    Pssst. Dims. We have an actual problem. Ignoring it will not make it "go away." Spending more is the problem, not a solution. We have to attend to the DEBT problem and we cannot do that while spending more than we take in at such a frenetic pace. And, sad to tell you, we also cannot TAX our way out of this problem. Taxation has consequences -- and an ebbing tide sinks all boats....

    Ergo, what we'd like from you folks is a demonstration of actual responsibility. So, let's try this again:

    WHAT are your proposals for spending cuts that will actually be deep enough to make a difference?
     
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    We spend more on unneeded air bases in Germany and Japan, too...Which is still irrelevant to the fact that it's a waste of money.
     
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    The problem is that in order to keep Obama's promise of cutting the deficit in half, the liberals went on a three trillion dollar spending spree to inflate the numbers needed to cut.

    They are going to be hard pressed to keep that promise.

    Obama promises to cut the deficit in half in four years
    PolitiFact | Obama promises to cut the deficit in half in four years

    The amount that they inflated spending in education is a good example of the way the bloated the budget in order to "cut" it.
     

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