What we may end up with is

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    Something that is not unlike what is evolving in Australia.
    The person in need of care will have to pay out of pocket and have to file for reimbursement from the government.
    Many Doctors in Australia will no longer treat patients under government care programs due to low and slow payments.

    How is that for a health care solution?
     
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    go get your proof that this will be how it works
     
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    The end game is socialized gubmint medical services, plain and simple.

    Nobody with even the most rudimentary understanding of economics can't see that forcing higher risks into the pool won't cause premiums to rise.

    Subsequently, the Stalinist tyrants pushing the current "reform" will once again bash the insurance companies for "price gouging", and use the failure of their "reform" as evidence that Big Daddy Big Gubmint needs to take over the whole kit and kaboodle to make it all "fair".

    Make book on it.
     
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    This is just the first step in a journey to oblivion.
     
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    How it works - very roughly - is that I go to see my doctor and he gives me a bill. My doctor is in a private clinic and the business doesn't "bulk bill", that is, it charges the AMA rate and not the Medicare rate. I pay at the clinic and then I electronically claim on Medicare and the reimbursement goes into my bank account. If I have a Health Card and am on concessions then I don't pay anything. Some doctors will only charge the Medicare rate so people don't have to pay anything.

    I don't know about doctors refusing to treat patients in the manner you assert.
     
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    Mr. Fitnah and Dude on the same side, blabbing but no evidence or facts. Dude is correct that the pool risk increases. What he is not willing to admit is that the risk has to be spread equally across the pool. Some rates will go up, not significantly, while others will drop radically. Fitnah offers nothing about Australia, and Dude yammers.

    Well, they are not in charge, thank heavens, so all we have to do is listen to their whining. Life could be far worse than that.

    Let's move on.
     
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    I prefer Switzerland myself.

    FRONTLINE: sick around the world: five capitalist democracies & how they do it | PBS
     
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    the government will NOT own the hospitals or pay the doctor's a salary. Doctors will not be government employees.

    I do not see GOP leaders complaining about their government paid plans...which is what is really on teh table. Government paid plans.


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    Australia.....?
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    now turn your head and cough.....
     

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