What the founder of the CRU thought way back in 1972

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    An interesting little look back to what one of the leading climateologists of the era (and founder of the now disgraced CRU) predicted waaaayyy back in 1972. And for Old Fraud here is the beginning of your 25 year CO2 increase in the atmosphere and to date the climate has been following it's normal cycles. Yet more evidence that AGW theory is garbage.

    - Bishop Hill blog - Hubert Lamb on iceages
     
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    Great find!

    I love it when we get to see the real science peeking through the BS...
     
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    But but but but but but but but but but but everyone knows that deminimus increases in the atmospheric trace element CO2 causes instantaneous, cataclysmic and irreversible changes in our climate!
     
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    "The full impact of the ice age will not be upon us for another ten thousand years,....."

    That is the quote from your site;

    - Bishop Hill blog - Hubert Lamb on iceages

    In other words, at that time he was considering only the Milankovic Cycles, and not the growing levels of GHGs in our atmosphere.

    No, we have not been following our normal cycles. We should be colder, but, instead are rapidly warming.
     
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    Logicalscience.com - The Consensus On Global Warming/Climate Change: From Science to Industry & Religion

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    Global warming is one of the most serious challenges facing us today. To protect the health and economic well-being of current and future generations, we must reduce our emissions of heat-trapping gases by using the technology, know-how, and practical solutions already at our disposal."1

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    Even the minimum predicted shifts in climate for the 21st century are likely to be significant and disruptive.”1

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    Of course our current crop of purveyors of mindless derision of reality would deny that real scientists have any kind of knowledge. Like inconsequential mutts barking at the moon, they seem to believe their mindless mouthing have some meaning.
     
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    It's GlobalWarmerCoolering!

    No one can withstand the twin forces of Warmer and Cooling!
     
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    But you still can't show us a single laboratory experiment where deminimus increases in the atmospheric trace element CO2 causes instantaneous, cataclysmic and irreversible changes in our climate, right?
     
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    Again, based on what?

    I predict that in 10,000 years the climate will be different than it is today!
     
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    So wait, if we are in the middle of a cooling trend than GHG's are actually far far far more powerful than the Warmers have been claiming, right?
     

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