Precipitation events.

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    This winter and spring, we have seen far more than normal precipitation events. From the unusual snow falls, to the present flooding in Tennessee. These are precisely the type of events that the scientists have been predicting will occur.

    As the atmosphere warms, it picks up more water. And that water is going to come out somewhere, usually rather rapidly. So expect more of the same.
     
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    A very precipitous scenario.
     
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    I'm here in the middle of it. Yes it is historical in scope for our area. Yes 11 lives or more have been lost. No it is not due to global warming or climate change or whatever, it was just our turn.
     
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    No it is not due to global warming or climate change
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    You know this how? People claim that AGW data is sketchy, but here we have someone that would have us believe the opposite with NO DATA AT ALL!!! Any wonder those that know the subject would want to ignore the deniers??? They've become a broken record with NOTHING to add to the scientific debate, hence their focus on convincing us it's a political issue.
     
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    One out of the ordinary flood! Oh noes!

    It r teh endz uv teh wurrld!

    I thought we weren't supposed to look at short term data... or was that long term data. I can't remember anymore cause you keep changing the reasons so you can say the same thing:

    It's all mankind's fault. We must install global fascism to stop it!
     
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    One out of the ordinary flood! Oh noes!

    It r teh endz uv teh wurrld!

    I thought we weren't supposed to look at short term data... or was that long term data. I can't remember anymore cause you keep changing the reasons so you can say the same thing:

    It's all mankind's fault. We must install global fascism to stop it!
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Where is all that science you claim to bring??? Sure looks like speculation based on current weather patterns to me.... And that is not science and no indicator of climate..... Remember? That was your argument over a few years of cooling temps..... how convenient you decide its now okay to use this kind of BS.....HAHHHAAHAHAHA!

    THe chore of having to cover for the fakes, phonies and liars who leave you hanging out to dry at every turn getting to you isn't it... yeah can't even motivate yourself to give your usual propaganda laden posts... Yeah I feel for ya man.....HAHAHAHHAA!
     
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    Nothing humans did could have possibly caused the jet stream to dip and pull warm moist air from the gulf region. This is why it rained. It rains in a lot of places. It always has.
     
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    Oh please,

    This is just more AGW BS. They first claimed that GW would cause desertification on a scale "unprecedented" in scale. Then when none of that was occuring it was the Himalayan glaciers (and all of the others) were going to melt by 2035 and according to a Met Office nimrod "children would not know what snow is in the very near future". Well he was proven ridiculously wrong now wasn't he?

    Now the temperature is rising and storing more water. First off the temp hasn't risen since 1998 and secondly for snow to fall IT HAS TO BE COLD YOU FOOL!

    AGW via CO2 as a GHG is a FAILED theory. It has no basis in fact and is very quickly being abandoned by all but a few "flat earth" types who can't see the forrest for the trees.

    Here is a nice little article about the reality of CO2 and it's impact on the atmosphere.
    Eliminating all Man-Made CO2 -- Earth gets Warmer?
    2.2.10 Bob Ashworth, Sr. VP



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    Do you realize that CO2 emissions created by man's activities, combustion of fuels, etc. (called anthropogenic emissions) is miniscule compared to the emissions of CO2 from nature? Table 1 was developed by the IPCC. It shows annual CO2 emissions to the atmosphere from both nature and man and how much of the CO2 emitted is re-absorbed by nature.




    Using the table above in combination with a total concentration of 385 ppmv of CO2 seen in the atmosphere in January 2008, one sees that the increase in CO2 caused by all of man's activities amounted to only 11.5 ppmv. The amount of CO2 from man is a mouse milk quantity compared to nature's emissions. If we eliminated all anthropogenic CO2 emissions, we would go back to the level we had in January 2003. Oh yes, when it was warmer then than it is now. Isn't this the first thing one would look at when evaluating the effect of man-made CO2; that is if they had any common sense? It is clear that CO2 concentration in the atmosphere has nothing to do with the earth temperature. If there is an effect it is so small it is not worthy of discussion.
    Global warming advocates say that CO2 builds up in the atmosphere over a 50 to 250 year period, but this is not true. Figure 1 below shows that the CO2 concentration oscillates based on the growing season in the Northern Hemisphere. The ratio of land to ocean in the Northern Hemisphere is about 1 to 1.5 and in the Southern Hemisphere is 1 to 4. Therefore, the Northern Hemisphere with much more land mass has a growing season that dominates the Southern Hemisphere growing season with respect to absorption of CO2.

    Does a correlation exist between the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere and the earth's temperature? No! Does an increase in CO2 cause the earth's temperature to increase? No! Figure 1 below was developed by Joseph D'Aleo, certified meteorologist. Even a non-scientist can see there is absolutely no correlation between CO2 concentration in the atmosphere and the earth's temperature. If there were a correlation, they both would rise and fall together. The CO2 has been on a continuous upward trend - not true for the earth's temperature.




    In Figure 1, each year around April, increased CO2 absorption by plants in the Northern Hemisphere starts reducing the CO2 in the atmosphere and the reduction continues until around mid to late August when plants start to go dormant. The cycles occur on a regular yearly basis and the swing in CO2 concentration is in the 5 to 8 ppmv range. If CO2 stayed in the atmosphere for long periods before being consumed, the season to season cyclic effect would not be seen. It is clear that nature reacts very fast in its consumption of carbon dioxide.
    The atmospheric concentrations of CO2 were taken at the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii. Two sets of temperature measurements are shown, one set by NASA's Microwave Sounding Unit (MSU) for the troposphere and the other by the UK's Hadley Climate Research Unit for the land and sea. Both show declining temperatures over time even as CO2 has increased from 366 ppmv in January 1998 to 385 ppmv by January 2008. Note that the land-sea and lower troposphere temperatures in January 2008 were some 0.7 Degrees C cooler than in January 1998.







     
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    Hypothetical Oldrocks response:

    "thats propaganda supplied by the big oil sponsored deniers cult"
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     

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