What The Candidates Aren't Telling The Stupid Voters.We Have A Doctor Shortage.But Free Health-Care!

[Care4all]

First Medicare is NOT free

Second, a doctors' shortage and access to health insurance are NOT related

Third, medical schools have increased their student population by over 30%

This is why too many doctors are leaving the profession and too few new ones are joining it

good read... thank you.

He had a lot of good points... summarized imo.... doctors can't be doctors anymore, with so many corporations and entities with their hands in it, just for the profits... and gvt.

 

[kyzr]

Anyone who thinks its possible for free medi-care/free health-care for all must have an IQ between 0 and 34. Why wont these leading Democrat Candidates bring up the downside of their version of this free health-care proposal? God forbid they tell the truth that there are not enough Doctors to treat up to 300 Million people! and god forbid they inform "The Stupid Voters" that they may have to wait for a year for that operation, and they could die waiting !!!
But thats OK with liberals, they see all people as insects, dont care if they die, so long as they have power. Right?

What a fucking MORON you must be......

First Medicare is NOT free

Second, a doctors' shortage and access to health insurance are NOT related

Third, medical schools have increased their student population by over 30%

1. Agree Medicare is earned over a working lifetime. It is not a socialist piggy bank. It is going bankrupt and need to be strengthened.

2. There is a sever Dr shortage in the US:
Physician supply - Wikipedia
Global View. In the US alone, the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) estimates a shortage of 91,500 physicians by 2020 and up to 130,600 by the year 2025. ... In these countries, there are only 1.13 doctors for every 1,000 people. In the United States, there are approximately 2.5 doctors for every 1,000 people ...

3. Everyone has "access" to health insurance, its a matter of affordability. Obamacare and other policies have high premiums and high deductibles so no one can afford to see a doctor. It like you don't have healthcare even though paying for it.

4. Call bullshit on your medical school claim, see #2 above and
Medical school enrollment hits another record high
"The problem that remains is that the number of medical residency training positions has not grown at the same pace. Dr. Atul Grover, AAMC chief public policy officer, reported that were 27,293 open residency positions last spring. But this fall, there is a combined total of 27,655 students enrolled in medical and osteopathic medicine schools."

 

[Cellblock2429]

Anyone who thinks its possible for free medi-care/free health-care for all must have an IQ between 0 and 34. Why wont these leading Democrat Candidates bring up the downside of their version of this free health-care proposal? God forbid they tell the truth that there are not enough Doctors to treat up to 300 Million people! and god forbid they inform "The Stupid Voters" that they may have to wait for a year for that operation, and they could die waiting !!!
But thats OK with liberals, they see all people as insects, dont care if they die, so long as they have power. Right?

/——/ democRATs see no downside to them running our lives cradle to grave.

 

[Disir]

Anyone who thinks its possible for free medi-care/free health-care for all must have an IQ between 0 and 34. Why wont these leading Democrat Candidates bring up the downside of their version of this free health-care proposal? God forbid they tell the truth that there are not enough Doctors to treat up to 300 Million people! and god forbid they inform "The Stupid Voters" that they may have to wait for a year for that operation, and they could die waiting !!!
But thats OK with liberals, they see all people as insects, dont care if they die, so long as they have power. Right?

It currently costs over $600,000 to become a doctor. You don't even start until about age 30.

 

[Disir]

That's an easy fix that the government already uses in IT and engineering...H1B Visas...
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What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Anyone who thinks its possible for free medi-care/free health-care for all must have an IQ between 0 and 34. Why wont these leading Democrat Candidates bring up the downside of their version of this free health-care proposal? God forbid they tell the truth that there are not enough Doctors to treat up to 300 Million people! and god forbid they inform "The Stupid Voters" that they may have to wait for a year for that operation, and they could die waiting !!!
But thats OK with liberals, they see all people as insects, dont care if they die, so long as they have power. Right?

Just point to the V.A. system and remind them how wonderfully that Government Ran System works!

( It is a cluster fuck and that is what you will get with Universal Healthcare! )

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

That's an easy fix that the government already uses in IT and engineering...H1B Visas...
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They already import through the H1B!

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Anyone who thinks its possible for free medi-care/free health-care for all must have an IQ between 0 and 34. Why wont these leading Democrat Candidates bring up the downside of their version of this free health-care proposal? God forbid they tell the truth that there are not enough Doctors to treat up to 300 Million people! and god forbid they inform "The Stupid Voters" that they may have to wait for a year for that operation, and they could die waiting !!!
But thats OK with liberals, they see all people as insects, dont care if they die, so long as they have power. Right?

How can we have a dollar shortage when we can throw a couple of TRILLION dollars to needy billionaires?

The GOP is sending a "mixed message".

Doncha think?

Alright Dean how do you find the Doctors and Nurses and Physical and Occupational Therapists to fill the needs of this society?

You do know that Doctors, Nurses, Therapists and many more in the medical community will be paid a certain wage and that will cause many in the medical profession to either retire or look elsewhere for opportunities, so what is your solution?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That's an easy fix that the government already uses in IT and engineering...H1B Visas...
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does this mean free monthly proc exams for all 330 million people?

No, it means more LPNs taking care of basic healthcare needs.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

3. Everyone has "access" to health insurance, its a matter of affordability.

Which is access. Come on. That's a weaselly, dumb talking point.

I suppose everyone also has access to their own private yacht, too. Because...duh

 

[kyzr]

3. Everyone has "access" to health insurance, its a matter of affordability.

Which is access. Come on. That's a weaselly, dumb talking point.

I suppose everyone also has access to their own private yacht, too. Because...duh

Talk about dumb talking points, with the unemployment rate about 4% good jobs are everywhere. Get a job with benefits. Yes everyone has access to healthcare, I don't like high deductibles, but no one should get free healthcare

 

[nat4900]

Say what? So you want health insurance but not a doctor? Dang you must be a liberal.

What a bunch of right wing idiots.....

The equivalent of stating that people should STOP asking for food because we have a shortage of farmers.

 

[nat4900]

First Medicare is NOT free

Second, a doctors' shortage and access to health insurance are NOT related

Third, medical schools have increased their student population by over 30%

This is why too many doctors are leaving the profession and too few new ones are joining it

Oh, very "true".......Tons of doctors are leaving the profession and working as greeters at WalMart

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Talk about dumb talking points, with the unemployment rate about 4% good jobs are everywhere.

Of course, that's an idiotic, oversimplified assessment, as it does not account for wages or underemployment.

 

[Disir]

We have a lack of access to health care. The insurance companies decide. It is cost prohibitive for many to even become a doctor.

So, the answer is to continue with H1B visas and being fully aware that the current scam is being used to drop wages in the nursing fields.

There has to be a better way.

 

[Lesh]

First Medicare is NOT free

Second, a doctors' shortage and access to health insurance are NOT related

Third, medical schools have increased their student population by over 30%

This is why too many doctors are leaving the profession and too few new ones are joining it

What the doctor Cal Thomas cites is talking about is capitalism overtaking the Medical Profession.

Oh...

 

[kyzr]

We have a lack of access to health care. The insurance companies decide. It is cost prohibitive for many to even become a doctor. So, the answer is to continue with H1B visas and being fully aware that the current scam is being used to drop wages in the nursing fields.
There has to be a better way.

1. We have lack of access to healthcare because of high deductibles. It was better before Obamacare.
2. Insurance companies decide costs because covering pre-existing conditions is so expensive. Someone needs to pay for covering those conditions
3. Yes there is a shortage of doctors, they borrow to pay for school, insurance, taxes, and then get less pay from Medicaid
4. Import doctors? Good luck with that.
5. There has to be a better way. Probably, but it is not single payer and free healthcare.

 

[nat4900]

3. Yes there is a shortage of doctors, they borrow to pay for school, insurance, taxes, and then get less pay from Medicaid

Nonsense.........Compare doctora' average salary to that of someone else earning a doctoral degree.

Separate data from Medscape's 8th Physician Compensation Report for 2018 states that the average U.S. primary care physician earns $223,000 annually. Meanwhile, medical specialists earn an average of $329,000, as of 2018. Across all specialties, Medscape found that the average salary for physicians is $299,000

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Anyone who thinks its possible for free medi-care/free health-care for all must have an IQ between 0 and 34. Why wont these leading Democrat Candidates bring up the downside of their version of this free health-care proposal? God forbid they tell the truth that there are not enough Doctors to treat up to 300 Million people! and god forbid they inform "The Stupid Voters" that they may have to wait for a year for that operation, and they could die waiting !!!
But thats OK with liberals, they see all people as insects, dont care if they die, so long as they have power. Right?

In Europe they have to import doctors from India and such because there is such a shortage and they have free education. Costs around $400k to become a doctor here in the US so they should be allowed to maximize their incomes.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Talk about dumb talking points, with the unemployment rate about 4% good jobs are everywhere.

Of course, that's an idiotic, oversimplified assessment, as it does not account for wages or underemployment.

Use the naked eye test. Wages have gone up.