What rightwingers can’t seem to grasp about Trump’s “shitholes” statement

[Billy000]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes in terms of their functioning economies.

That isn’t the point, however. The economy is one thing, but he also insulted the culture and the people themselves. Why is it so hard for this 71 year old 8th grader to just show some basic respect for other nations regardless of what they are and how they are perceived?

That's almost as bad as calling half of America "Deplorable". IF he even said it. Sounds like "Russian Collusion" and "Porn Mistress" didn't work so now we have "Shithole". This is so Goddamn entertaining! To think we have at least 3 more years of this. Haha

Actually at the time Hillary said that, Trump’s support was at 33% so she was only talking about 16% of Americans. She was definitely right too. Yikes.

 

[asaratis]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes in terms of their functioning economies.

That isn’t the point, however. The economy is one thing, but he also insulted the culture and the people themselves. Why is it so hard for this 71 year old 8th grader to just show some basic respect for other nations regardless of what they are and how they are perceived?

You are presumptuous to claim that he used the word at all. You are a useful idiot.

There are several people that were actually at the meeting and do not recall that language as coming from Donald Trump. The meeting was laced with profanities, but several trustworthy attendees deny what the known liar Dick Durbin claimed.

 

[asaratis]

Apparently Little Dick Durbin fabricated the "shithole" quote

Little Dickie has a habit of fabricating things that didn't happen at meetings he attended in the Oval Office. He is as close to being honest as he will ever be.

 

[jc456]

Trump has these libs twisted into knots, here's this libwit...I know these countries really ARE shitholes BUT I just hate Trump so much so blah, blah blah, blah blah blah.

Tell me, whenever you see a fat, old person on the street do you say “you’re fat and old!” Probably not. You’re too much of a wuss to do it. I dont do it because it’s unfair to insult people.

God you’re fucking dense.

If that person was trying to get the government to force me to let him move into my house, then I wouldn't hesitate to call him fat, old, and quite a few other things.

Oh really? Haitians force the US government to move them into your house? How bizarre!

I think you must be illiterate. You didn't follow a single word I posted.

Are you really too fucking stupid to understand an anaolgy? Allowing them to immigrate here is the equivalent of allowing an unwanted stranger to move into your house.

Except it isn’t because most people don’t give a shit they come here. My brother in law is from Senegal and you will never be half the man he is. Not even close.

Why would he want to be? He’s from here where your brother in law came to. His yard

 

[asaratis]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes in terms of their functioning economies.

That isn’t the point, however. The economy is one thing, but he also insulted the culture and the people themselves. Why is it so hard for this 71 year old 8th grader to just show some basic respect for other nations regardless of what they are and how they are perceived?

The people of those countries are responsible for the condition of their countries.
Trump was correct in saying those are not the types of people we need to be bringing in.

Are you saying that conditions in Cuba have resulted from the actions of the disarmed masses of people....or are they what results from forced communism by the Castro brothers and their armed enforcement squads?

Generally, populations do not make shitholes out of countries....oppressive governments do. Oppressive governments are generally replete with corrupt officials and their friends who systematically skim the cream of all things that are made available to the country.

 

[asaratis]

Did he say anything specifically about the people or their culture? Or are you just making assumptions based on your own bigotry?


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If a foreign leader called the US a “shithole” or anything remotely insulting, you dickbags wouid not stop crying over it and you know it.

Nice deflection, now would you like to actually address the questions?


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You are so full of shit. If a foreign leader called the US a shithole, you as a citizen would take it personally. Don’t pretend you wouldn’t.

Ok, now back to the questions. Do you lack the balls to discuss what you wrote?


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Your questions are moot because citizenry would obviously take the shithole comment personally regardless of Trump not specifically insulting the people themselves.

Most of the citizenry of a shithole country would likely agree with being called a shithole country. They just wouldn't do it out loud.

Oppressive governments produce shitholes...whether they be cities, counties, states or whole countries. California is a shithole. Detroit is a shit hole. Chicago is a shithole.

That does not mean that all the people living their are shitty. It means the GOVERNMENT is shitty.

 

[asaratis]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes in terms of their functioning economies.

That isn’t the point, however. The economy is one thing, but he also insulted the culture and the people themselves. Why is it so hard for this 71 year old 8th grader to just show some basic respect for other nations regardless of what they are and how they are perceived?

Some cultures should be insulted. This is not a fairy tale. I would rather teach the 8th grader to embrace reality and understand it is not always pleasant.

Keep in mind these shithole get mega bucks in aid. They( the government's) are the ones creating the shitholes because the people let them. People have to help themselves.

People that have no weapons can do nothing significant against an armed government. That is why I will never abandon our 2nd Amendment rights.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes in terms of their functioning economies.

That isn’t the point, however. The economy is one thing, but he also insulted the culture and the people themselves. Why is it so hard for this 71 year old 8th grader to just show some basic respect for other nations regardless of what they are and how they are perceived?

The people of those countries are responsible for the condition of their countries.
Trump was correct in saying those are not the types of people we need to be bringing in.

Are you saying that conditions in Cuba have resulted from the actions of the disarmed masses of people....or are they what results from forced communism by the Castro brothers and their armed enforcement squads?

Generally, populations do not make shitholes out of countries....oppressive governments do. Oppressive governments are generally replete with corrupt officials and their friends who systematically skim the cream of all things that are made available to the country.

Countries have oppressive corrupt governments because the population allows it. The Third Reich came to power because the population allowed it. If a country is a shit hole, the population of the country is almost always responsible. England became a democracy because the population took power from the monarchy by force of arms. The english people were suprior to the serfs living in countries like Russia. They had a a greater regard for themselves and their rights.

 

[OKTexas]

If a foreign leader called the US a “shithole” or anything remotely insulting, you dickbags wouid not stop crying over it and you know it.

Nice deflection, now would you like to actually address the questions?


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You are so full of shit. If a foreign leader called the US a shithole, you as a citizen would take it personally. Don’t pretend you wouldn’t.

Ok, now back to the questions. Do you lack the balls to discuss what you wrote?


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Your questions are moot because citizenry would obviously take the shithole comment personally regardless of Trump not specifically insulting the people themselves.

Most of the citizenry of a shithole country would likely agree with being called a shithole country. They just wouldn't do it out loud.

Oppressive governments produce shitholes...whether they be cities, counties, states or whole countries. California is a shithole. Detroit is a shit hole. Chicago is a shithole.

That does not mean that all the people living their are shitty. It means the GOVERNMENT is shitty.

Dammit, don't try to confuse the regressive with facts, their little heads could explode.


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[asaratis]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes

You destroyed your own thread well done!

Well I don’t expect you to understand any sort of nuance in a discussion. Your knuckle dragging, retard ilk can only think in black and white terms. That’s why you are republicans to begin with.

We whipped your ass in the last how many elections? lol here

Actually you didn’t. Perhaps you’re too retarded to remember the wave of democrats that won weeks ago including the election of a democrat senator in a deep red state. Oops!

Since when is two a wave?

 

[Billy000]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes

You destroyed your own thread well done!

Well I don’t expect you to understand any sort of nuance in a discussion. Your knuckle dragging, retard ilk can only think in black and white terms. That’s why you are republicans to begin with.

We whipped your ass in the last how many elections? lol here

Actually you didn’t. Perhaps you’re too retarded to remember the wave of democrats that won weeks ago including the election of a democrat senator in a deep red state. Oops!

Since when is two a wave?

It was 7 and Repubs won zero.

 

[Tilly]

Did he say anything specifically about the people or their culture? Or are you just making assumptions based on your own bigotry?


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If a foreign leader called the US a “shithole” or anything remotely insulting, you dickbags wouid not stop crying over it and you know it.

Nice deflection, now would you like to actually address the questions?


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You are so full of shit. If a foreign leader called the US a shithole, you as a citizen would take it personally. Don’t pretend you wouldn’t.

Ok, now back to the questions. Do you lack the balls to discuss what you wrote?


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Your questions are moot because citizenry would obviously take the shithole comment personally regardless of Trump not specifically insulting the people themselves.

So now we have to mollycoddle because people will decide to take offence at what HAS NOT been said???
I think not.

 

[Pogo]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes in terms of their functioning economies.

That isn’t the point, however. The economy is one thing, but he also insulted the culture and the people themselves. Why is it so hard for this 71 year old 8th grader to just show some basic respect for other nations regardless of what they are and how they are perceived?

That's almost as bad as calling half of America "Deplorable". IF he even said it. Sounds like "Russian Collusion" and "Porn Mistress" didn't work so now we have "Shithole". This is so Goddamn entertaining! To think we have at least 3 more years of this. Haha

Actually at the time Hillary said that, Trump’s support was at 33% so she was only talking about 16% of Americans. She was definitely right too. Yikes.

Actually we worked it out the other day. It comes out to roughly 7.5%, if you figure that one-third of eligible voters are not registered to vote, so out of those who are only 55% voted in 2016 and out of those 46% voted for Rump, half of that, and you get 7.5%. Or as butthurt Rumpbots like to characterize it, "half of America".

 

[Billy000]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes in terms of their functioning economies.

That isn’t the point, however. The economy is one thing, but he also insulted the culture and the people themselves. Why is it so hard for this 71 year old 8th grader to just show some basic respect for other nations regardless of what they are and how they are perceived?

That's almost as bad as calling half of America "Deplorable". IF he even said it. Sounds like "Russian Collusion" and "Porn Mistress" didn't work so now we have "Shithole". This is so Goddamn entertaining! To think we have at least 3 more years of this. Haha

Actually at the time Hillary said that, Trump’s support was at 33% so she was only talking about 16% of Americans. She was definitely right too. Yikes.

Actually we worked it out the other day. It comes out to roughly 7.5%, if you figure that one-third of eligible voters are not registered to vote, so out of those who are only 55% voted in 2016 and out of those 46% voted for Rump, half of that, and you get 7.5%. Or as butthurt Rumpbots like to characterize it, "half of America".

Ah okay then.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Yes, arguably those countries are shitholes in terms of their functioning economies.

That isn’t the point, however. The economy is one thing, but he also insulted the culture and the people themselves. Why is it so hard for this 71 year old 8th grader to just show some basic respect for other nations regardless of what they are and how they are perceived?

Not hard to understand; just impossible to believe your spin. Nice try though.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You destroyed your own thread well done!

Well I don’t expect you to understand any sort of nuance in a discussion. Your knuckle dragging, retard ilk can only think in black and white terms. That’s why you are republicans to begin with.

We whipped your ass in the last how many elections? lol here

Actually you didn’t. Perhaps you’re too retarded to remember the wave of democrats that won weeks ago including the election of a democrat senator in a deep red state. Oops!

Since when is two a wave?

It was 7 and Repubs won zero.

The GOP alredy stole 1000 seats from the left thanks to Obama. You got A LONG WAYS TO GO just to regain your previous losses boi

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm not the one that started the thread, nor am I trying to impute motives onto the man. I take him at face value, and likewise, I believe in statements of those who have met him and interacted with him personally.

The president said: “No, no, I’m not a racist. I am the least racist person you have ever interviewed, that I can tell you.”
Trump insists 'I am the least racist person' amid outrage over remarks

https://nypost.com/2016/08/31/jesse-jackson-once-sang-donald-trumps-praises/

Not sure the person you were attempting to berate started the thread, but anyway, that's neither here nor there.

You said you take 45 at face value, that means you disbelieve what Durbin, Lindsey, and other's including Democrat and Republican politicians in the room at the time has said countering 45's weak defense.

Why do you believe them over him?

I take THEM at face value.

So instead of believing him about what he meant, you are going to believe them about what he meant?


Seriously?


I would believe what YOU said you mean, rather than what somebody told me you meant to say, why do you not have enough common decency to believe what the man is trying to tell you than to have the MSM or others tell you what he meant instead of what he TELLS you he means?

Is your need to hate that strong?

 

[MarcATL]

So instead of believing him about what he meant, you are going to believe them about what he meant?


Seriously?


I would believe what YOU said you mean, rather than what somebody told me you meant to say, why do you not have enough common decency to believe what the man is trying to tell you than to have the MSM or others tell you what he meant instead of what he TELLS you he means?

Is your need to hate that strong?

No liar, I'm not talking about what 45 says he meant, I'm referring to what he actually SAID.

Capice?

 

[MisterBeale]

So instead of believing him about what he meant, you are going to believe them about what he meant?


Seriously?


I would believe what YOU said you mean, rather than what somebody told me you meant to say, why do you not have enough common decency to believe what the man is trying to tell you than to have the MSM or others tell you what he meant instead of what he TELLS you he means?

Is your need to hate that strong?

No liar, I'm not talking about what 45 says he meant, I'm referring to what he actually SAID.

Capice?

What he actually said is immaterial. The OP's premise is that Trump was insulting their culture and their people, when clearly he was not, and he told you he was not.

There was an immigration debate and discussion in the room, where the congressional representation was supposed to bring a compromise bill, and they clearly did not bring one to him. Then the discussion got heated, the exchange got nasty on all sides, not just his, and these nasty pols. took it to their Deep State paper with their common divide and conquer tactics to try to make him look bad with just another transparent and distraction ad hominem chunk of meat for their base, because they dropped ball on his olive branch compromise offer. This is nothing but nasty sloppy politics, and frankly, I am surprised you aren't intelligent enough to see right through it.


Trump has come out and told folks this isn't about race. Take it to the bank.

If you want to be a racist, that is on you now.

We all know Trump is a lousy politician, he will never be diplomatic, why the hell would you expect such things from him? I certainly don't.

Those congress critters were being sophomoric and stupid. They should have brought something to the administration that included a COMPROMISE. The means something that you want, and something the president wants.

IDIOTS.

When they didn't get what they wanted, they threw a fit and went to mommy press telling the 4th estate how awful and undiplomatic the president acted. Big surprise. Like the entire world doesn't know that?

Do us all a favor elite press, don't make the man out to be something he is not. We know he is uncouth, unrefined and not a politician. Sorry he won't roll over. Get used to it.

Next time, he might just have to record those meetings to show the public what asses everyone in the room was being.

 

[MarcATL]

What he actually said is immaterial. The OP's premise is that Trump was insulting their culture and their people, when clearly he was not, and he told you he was not.

There was an immigration debate and discussion in the room, where the congressional representation was supposed to bring a compromise bill, and they clearly did not bring one to him. Then the discussion got heated, the exchange got nasty on all sides, not just his, and these nasty pols. took it to their Deep State paper with their common divide and conquer tactics to try to make him look bad with just another transparent and distraction ad hominem chunk of meat for their base, because they dropped ball on his olive branch compromise offer. This is nothing but nasty sloppy politics, and frankly, I am surprised you aren't intelligent enough to see right through it.


Trump has come out and told folks this isn't about race. Take it to the bank.

If you want to be a racist, that is on you now.

We all know Trump is a lousy politician, he will never be diplomatic, why the hell would you expect such things from him? I certainly don't.

Those congress critters were being sophomoric and stupid. They should have brought something to the administration that included a COMPROMISE. The means something that you want, and something the president wants.

IDIOTS.

When they didn't get what they wanted, they threw a fit and went to mommy press telling the 4th estate how awful and undiplomatic the president acted. Big surprise. Like the entire world doesn't know that?

Do us all a favor elite press, don't make the man out to be something he is not. We know he is uncouth, unrefined and not a politician. Sorry he won't roll over. Get used to it.

Next time, he might just have to record those meetings to show the public what asses everyone in the room was being.

You're bonkers.