What prompted all this political woke nonsense?

[Remodeling Maidiac]

At some point during the Obama administration I started noticing all this silly woke shit becoming mainstream. I can't pinpoint exactly when or what sparked it but I vaguely remember hearing certain key phrases and thinking that's preposterous. Then towards the end of his term and the beginning of Trumps it just exoded.
Was it something being fed to our kids in school and it only surfaced then as they became old enough to express it or was it something by design slowly promoted by radical politicians?

It's just crazy how our culture was tossed in a blender then *poof* suddenly close to half the nation is woke.

 

[JGalt]

At some point during the Obama administration I started noticing all this silly woke shit becoming mainstream. I can't pinpoint exactly when or what sparked it but I vaguely remember hearing certain key phrases and thinking that's preposterous. Then towards the end of his term and the beginning of Trumps it just exoded.
Was it something being fed to our kids in school and it only surfaced then as they became old enough to express it or was it something by design slowly promoted by radical politicians?

It's just crazy how our culture was tossed in a blender then *poof* suddenly close to half the nation is woke.

This "woke" shit started all the way back in the 50's. Remember those "woke" commie folk singers like Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger, Burl Ives, and other admitted communists? Although Burl Ives did testify against some of them.

The FBI, The Second Red Scare, and the Folk Singer Who Cooperated.

The 60's were even worse: Women's lib, gays coming out of the closet, student radicals, environmentalism, abortion, Yoga, drugs..

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This "woke" shit started all the way back in the 50's. Remember those "woke" commie folk singers like Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger, Burl Ives, and other admitted communists? Although Burl Ives did testify against some of them.

The FBI, The Second Red Scare, and the Folk Singer Who Cooperated.

The 60's were even worse: Women's lib, gays coming out of the closet, student radicals, environmentalism, abortion, Yoga, drugs..

I wasn't alive in the 50's and there were certainly radical groups around throughout history but what we are seeing now is vastly different than isolated groups.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

At some point during the Obama administration I started noticing all this silly woke shit becoming mainstream. I can't pinpoint exactly when or what sparked it but I vaguely remember hearing certain key phrases and thinking that's preposterous. Then towards the end of his term and the beginning of Trumps it just exoded.
Was it something being fed to our kids in school and it only surfaced then as they became old enough to express it or was it something by design slowly promoted by radical politicians?

It's just crazy how our culture was tossed in a blender then *poof* suddenly close to half the nation is woke.

Well, let's see. It was probably knee-jerk and the right wing are the ones keeping the term "woke" alive. I don't hear anyone on the left using the term..so I'll take some stabs...but.....

1) I'm guessing the absolute bile and vitriol that arose on the right wing virtually beginning on the night Obama was elected had something to do with it. You can try and cloak it in the whole "Tea Party" argument..but it was what it was. A visceral reaction by a sizeable (white) section of this country to a black man being elected President. What followed was 8 years of sewage spewed out constantly by the whole rise of alt-right media...resulting in...a cheeto dusted reality game show host who took the rhetoric to a whole new level.
2) I'm also guessing that after Michael Brown, younger people in particular got tired of seeing unarmed (for the most part) men (and women) of color being shot dead by mostly white police officers who were not held accountable (at that time) for their actions. Hence the outrage. Tamir Rice, Briana Taylor, etc..
3) Since I started writing this, Post #2's last paragraph provides a perfect example for me. Because it just demonstrates a willingness and an excuse to be cruel..just because you don't agree with someone's lifestyle choices...or you don't like their point of view. And before I hear the But..but..but..from the righties..remember..you started it. Replying in kind is just human nature.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Well, let's see. It was probably knee-jerk and the right wing are the ones keeping the term "woke" alive. I don't hear anyone on the left using the term..so I'll take some stabs...but.....

1) I'm guessing the absolute bile and vitriol that arose on the right wing virtually beginning on the night Obama was elected had something to do with it. You can try and cloak it in the whole "Tea Party" argument..but it was what it was. A visceral reaction by a sizeable (white) section of this country to a black man being elected President. What followed was 8 years of sewage spewed out constantly by the whole rise of alt-right media...resulting in...a cheeto dusted reality game show host who took the rhetoric to a whole new level.
2) I'm also guessing that after Michael Brown, younger people in particular got tired of seeing unarmed (for the most part) men (and women) of color being shot dead by mostly white police officers who were not held accountable (at that time) for their actions. Hence the outrage. Tamir Rice, Briana Taylor, etc..
3) Since I started writing this, Post #2's last paragraph provides a perfect example for me. Because it just demonstrates a willingness and an excuse to be cruel..just because you don't agree with someone's lifestyle choices...or you don't like their point of view. And before I hear the But..but..but..from the righties..remember..you started it. Replying in kind is just human nature.

That black man won the presidency because of white people not despite them.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

That black man won the presidency because of white people not despite them.

Yes...and no. But you asked why the political woke "nonsense" arose. Obama being elected was part of the reason.

2008 breakdown.

Dissecting the 2008 Electorate: Most Diverse in U.S. History

The electorate in last year’s presidential election was the most racially and ethnically diverse in U.S. history, with nearly one-in-four votes cast by non-whites, according to a new analysis of Census Bureau data.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[wamose]

Wokeness took the place of policy for Democrats who were having a very hard time figuring out how to accomplish anything.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Yes...and no. But you asked why the political woke "nonsense" arose. Obama being elected was part of the reason.

2008 breakdown.

Dissecting the 2008 Electorate: Most Diverse in U.S. History

The electorate in last year’s presidential election was the most racially and ethnically diverse in U.S. history, with nearly one-in-four votes cast by non-whites, according to a new analysis of Census Bureau data.

www.pewresearch.org

So the left went woke because Obama won?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

So the left went woke because Obama won?

There were multiple reasons. The right wing's reaction to Obama's election and the rise of the cancerous alt-right were two reasons.

What are you not getting here? This isn't a binary answer.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

There were multiple reasons. The right wing's reaction to Obama's election and the rise of the cancerous alt-right were two reasons.

What are you not getting here? This isn't a binary answer.

You are attempting to blame the right for the actions of the left. That is just plain stupid.
The right certainly has its issues as well but it is in no way responsible for all the nonsensical cultural shit the left is pulling.

 

[JWBooth]

At some point during the Obama administration I started noticing all this silly woke shit becoming mainstream. I can't pinpoint exactly when or what sparked it but I vaguely remember hearing certain key phrases and thinking that's preposterous. Then towards the end of his term and the beginning of Trumps it just exoded.
Was it something being fed to our kids in school and it only surfaced then as they became old enough to express it or was it something by design slowly promoted by radical politicians?

It's just crazy how our culture was tossed in a blender then *poof* suddenly close to half the nation is woke.

What prompted all this political woke nonsense?​

60 years of Martist Leninist indoctrination in our education system paying off.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

You are attempting to blame the right for the actions of the left. That is just plain stupid.
The right certainly has its issues as well but it is in no way responsible for all the nonsensical cultural shit the left is pulling.

Cause and effect. It's impossible to ignore the effect Obama's election had on galvanizing the right wing. A section of voters saw the possibility of their power disappearing and had a visceral reaction. Just one of the reasons. At a basic level, there are groups of people in this country who were just tired of being treated like crap and walked all over...and decided enough was enough.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Cause and effect. It's impossible to ignore the effect Obama's election had on galvanizing the right wing. A section of voters saw the possibility of their power disappearing and had a visceral reaction. Just one of the reasons. At a basic level, there are groups of people in this country who were just tired of being treated like crap and walked all over...and decided enough was enough.

That is some professional level spin. You should turn records for a living

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

That is some professional level spin. You should turn records for a living

Again it was one of many reasons. Why do you believe it's spin? This happened. It's documented.

Or are you just looking for a binary explanation to satisfy your bias?
Something for you to use as a battering ram or a 30 second soundbite.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Who knows, but I am willing to bet that some very deep pocket global socialists and foreign governments have been investing heavily in weakening America from within. It started decades ago, but really increased in the 1990s and the overuse of the term "globalization", which has been anything but.

Wall Street and Big Business loved it, to hell with more important considerations such as National Security and sovereignty, easy money usurped all in their eyes. I believe in global economic activity, but not a one-sided fleecing and exploitation which the West and it's Middle Class has experienced.

As goes America, so goes the West. Weaken your resolve and fight from within and be easily tamed. Other nations have been further along their demise for a long time, including Canada with contributions from our Security Industrial Complex (we didn't need a Patriot Act to be enacted, we had it all along, and you followed our undemocratic ways).

Your primary mistake was considering us and others to be "just like you". We are not. The closest system may have been France decades ago. Emulating systems that your forefathers fought to seek Independence from isn't a winning strategy...

 

[Resnic]

It started when all the kids grew up from the era not long ago where parents were all about making each child feel special, unique, talented, amazing and a hero. They grew up with their parents shielding them from anything that might tonguen then up like the heavy handed anti bullying campaigns like the 8 year old on tv "they teased me because of my glasses and I was bullied". A generation of kids growing up raised by weak, and soft parents catering to them.

So they reached voting and working age raised on the notion they will be protected, they are special, they deserve everything handed to them. So not only did they expect that, but they also thought they deserved everything without working for it. And the country catered to them.

So with no ambition and nothing to work for they got bored with no direction and decided since they were so amazing and great that they would take on political and social issues with no actual knowledge of the real world or insight.

And companies desperate for fresh money catered to them. Politicians desperate for fresh votes catered to them. Companies needing new employees catered to them. And it all fed their ignorance further.

It all started with bush and his no child left behind shit, then it got a bump by Obama, and then fast forward to now the seeds planted have finally bloomed.

 

[Polishprince]

There were multiple reasons. The right wing's reaction to Obama's election and the rise of the cancerous alt-right were two reasons.

What are you not getting here? This isn't a binary answer.

The "alt right" is a fictional movement, just a way to try and intimidate those who oppose abortion, sodomy and other liberal innovations, by making them seem "unamerican"

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

The "alt right" is a fictional movement, just a way to try and intimidate those who oppose abortion, sodomy and other liberal innovations, by making them seem "unamerican"

Oh, it's about as real as it gets, my friend. It's not a mirage. And it's expanded to co-opt more center-right and moderate leaning Republicans.

How the Alt-Right Happened

SOC professor Saif Shahin researched how alt-right racism spread on Twitter.

www.american.edu

 

[DBA]

Oh, it's about as real as it gets, my friend. It's not a mirage. And it's expanded to co-opt more center-right and moderate leaning Republicans.

How the Alt-Right Happened

SOC professor Saif Shahin researched how alt-right racism spread on Twitter.

www.american.edu

Kind of like we should all be worried about White Supremacy. I find it hard to believe that sensible people fall for this rhetoric.

 

[colfax_m]

Can anyone provide a definition of what they mean by woke? It feels like this is a vague term that people apply to things they don’t like rather than having any concrete meaning.