What Peace between the Israelis and Palestinians should look like

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    A massive infusion of international capital and humanitarian aid being invested into the new State of Palestine creating a strong and viable economy and job opportunities for the Palestinian people. Unemployment has been running between 40% and 70% in the Palestinian Territories for many years. Democracy without job opportunities for the people will not work. By creating job opportunities and an independent State for the Palestinian people the dignity of the Palestinian people will begin to be restored.

    The Israeli government agreeing to turn over in good shape the Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip to the State of Palestine. Some of the Israeli Settlements surrounding East Jerusalem will become an International Green Zone with final terms to be worked out. Israel will gain a great deal of international legitimacy among the international community of nations. With a temporary moratorium on new immigrates or the return of people to Palestine and Israel the problem of those there today can be workout. The Israelis agreeing to down size their military industrial complex that is mostly government owned and Palestine agreeing not to create one. A twenty-year master plan must be developed and implemented with the tourism industry being the economic cornerstone of the region.

    By creating a peaceful and civil way for the people of the region to settle their grievances and differences civil order will develop. Only by building the confidence of the people on both sides will trust of one and another develop. For this term of time the international community will have play a major role with operations being based in the International Green Zone. There are many considerations that have be considered in the twenty-year master plan from the preservation of the religious Holy sites to security and the development of a commercial tourism industry. Only if both sides profit from the tourism generated dollars will peace prosper in the Holy Land.
    For the Government of Israel role in agreeing to compromising terms to peace the United States Government and the European Union guarantee the national security of the State of Israel from military attacks from foreign governments. All regional and national government will have to work in cooperation against the acts of terrorisms by disgruntled individuals and fringe groups that remain out side the peace process. The slate of pass actions will be wiped clean on both sides regarding individuals and groups being tried for War Crimes, only the future actions of possible war crimes could be tried. An Authority of Property and Personal Disputed will have to be established to help settle old grievances between the Palestinian people and the Israelis. The Israeli government will handle the financial reimbursement of the Jewish Settlers for relocating backed by a financial package from the United States Government. The Authority of Property and Personal Disputed will handle the financial reimbursement to the Palestinian people by a financial package from the Arab nations and European Union.

    As conditions improve in the Palestinian community so too will the relationship between the people opening the door for new opportunities. With the up coming Palestinian elections there is a chance for major changes for the better for the people on both sides if an international commitment is made as well as the governments on both sides.
     
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    Do you think that this plan will hold up after Israel bombs Iran?
     
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    Do you think it will hold if Iran boms Israel ?

    I take back everything i said Dillo. You really are biased. You are looking for things to blame Israel for. If Israel bombed Iran's nuclear facility, there will be dancing in Times Square. You act like Israel is the World's pariah. This is one of the reasons that Israel really doesn't give a rat's ass about world opinion. The world in general does not have Israel's needs in mind.
     
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    How in the hell can you read bias into the question I just asked?
     
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    Actually, you are right. It's really a good question. And I think the answer is "no". Iran supports Hezbula so it will be very bad for a minute. I do believe that Iran will have a working nuclear device fairly soon despite it's declerations to the UN. May the lord have mercy on our souls.
     
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    Amen to that---It's an incredibly important time in history. While Pakistan already has it, the Muslim bomb in the hands of Iran will be disastrous. All efforts at diplomacy will be shadowed by nuclear threats. Imminent decisions will take on huge proportions. I can't believe Israel or the US will allow it to happen but it could .
     
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    Plus, there are so many nuclear bombs out there already. I have to imagine that a guy like Bin Laden has got to be able to afford one, and Iran can too. I imagine that if you pay Grnbujnd Krovstowski in the Ukrain 10 mill US $ he would look the other way while the warhead disappeared.
     
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    Fortunately owning a nuclear device is a million miles from delivering that warhead to destroy another country.

    Iran is now trying all they can to fit purchased nuclear warheads on their new long range rockets. Ossama lives in a cave or under a rock. He has little chance of using intercontinental ballistic missiles under a rock.

    Unless you believe in total chaos running everything, there is little chance that any nuclear devices will be successfully exploded in other's countries. Haven't you ever seen a James Bond movie with their close calls?

    What was created must also be destroyed by the same watchmaker who created this mirage we call existence.
     
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    The United States and Israel must address the issues that make so many people and nations hate their government policies and actions. The hypocrisy between what the United States and Israel government say and what they do is at the core of so much of the tensions around the world. No other nations in the world could get away with the military actions of these two nations. For Israeli government officials to claim if Iran has nuclear weapons it is violation of Israel national security. This is the same claim that most Arab nations make in regards to Israel nuclear weapons program being a threat to their national security. For Israeli ancestor survivors of the Holocaust to be implementing government policies and actions onto the indigenous Palestinian people today is a humanitarian crime that is not acceptable.

    The United States government unconditional backing and support of the Israeli government actions make the American taxpayers responsible for the actions of the Israeli government and military. Israel being a regional military supper power and the United States being a global supper power has put us at odds with others nations in the world and in this region. The Arab people have seen too many deals with the Western industrial nations for cheap oil in exchange for expensive military weapons. With so few job and career opportunities for so many young Arab people unemployment run 30% to 70% among many Arab nations. Yes, there are problems in the Arab world that need to be addressed but the overwhelming military destruction of the cradle of civilization is not the answer in Iraq, Iran, or in the Holy Land.

    Only by understanding and addressing the grievances of the other side will the answer be seen and implemented. One side likes to blame one person on the other side for their problems. As long as you deal with the problems on a superficial level you will never get to the root of the answers. An example of this would be in the Palestinian-Israeli Crisis by not dealing with the Jerusalem and Jewish Settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip there would be no peace. The Right to Return has to be addressed on both sides for it is at the root of the problem. Compensate for the Palestinian victims must be addressed and part of a final plan. By one side destroying the other side is not making anyone safer or better off over the long term of time.
     
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    Just another reason why I support and have supported, the serious development of a missle defense system, substantial increases in intel funding, and removing many of the restrictions on the CIA.

    Wonder where the money would come from, well lets start with many of the unnecessary entitlements in the country and the pork barrel spending.
     

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