What Makes Socialism So Attractive?

[Tommy Tainant]

Capitalism

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. In Jung Chang’s autobiographical study of three generations of her family, “Wild Swans,” taking place during the period in which China went from the historical China, to the communist version, we see many of the same changes that are taking place in America today: old restrictions broken down…..with the ‘rebels’ not realizing that their brave new world would come with even more rigid ones.



The women of her family saw the communist’s promise to enforce equality between men and women as their chance to change the lives that had been dealt to them. But…with that came an even more rigid set of ‘party’ restrictions, just in the opposite direction from what had been traditional, but even more punitive: they told her who she could marry, and when, and how.

With, seemingly, good reason….

“The Communists were trying to institute a frugal approach to weddings, which had traditionally been the occasion for huge expenditure, far out of proportion to what people could afford. It was not at all unusual for families to bankrupt themselves to put on a lavish wedding.” Chang, “Wild Swans”

Free choice was still subverted to ‘I know what’s best for you!’
That's the message of every totalitarian regime.



"Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual") concretizes the collectivist belief that individuals have no rights and that "the greater good" is the only standard of value. Under such a system, man is not an end to himself, only a tool to be sacrificed for the Führer, autocrat or ruling mob.

Only capitalism regards man as a sovereign individual with an inalienable right to his own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Government recognition and protection of individual rights is the hallmark of a moral, peaceful, productive society."
Sipsey Street Irregulars: The lie before the crime. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual")





At least parents wouldn’t kill you for misbehaving.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In this very thread, I'm gonna provide a first hand account of a society that embraced socialism/communism.

I still want to see those accused own words - before I render any conclusion.

And you know how deeply important your 'conclusion' is to me......

 

[Rigby5]

Here's the thing: Until you have had the experience of working to support yourself and actually seeing how much of your hard-earned money goes out in taxes, you lack the "wisdom" to understand why Socialism is evil. And it is evil. It is theft. Taking money from one group of people who have done nothing wrong, and giving it to others who have done nothing to earn it. That is definitional theft.

A large percentage of Bernie's supporters either have not had that experience, or have had the experience generally, but in a protected environment - government employment, foundation employment, employment in the Arts, and so on.

As I have mentioned repeatedly in this space, if the vote were limited to those who have worked Real Jobs in the Real World, and who have paid at least a nominal amount in FIT for a few years, the entire Democrat party could pack up its tent and leave town, and nobody would even notice.

Oh come on, very little of your income goes out in taxes.
Most people are paying less than 20%.
And the very wealthy only pay capital gains tax.

What you should be upset about the tax system is that the poor are not allowed to write off their rent, food, utilities, transportation, etc., like the wealthy are.

And socialism is NOT taking money from one group and giving it to another.
Socialism is about pooling shared capital for shared infrastructure, like roads, schools, fire fighting, police, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

I'd like to see, in their own words, exactly what they think socialism is before I'd render any conclusion.

In this very thread, I'm gonna provide a first hand account of a society that embraced socialism/communism.

That is easy, because obviously the US government it entirely socialist already, and the only thing missing is health care.
Almost all government are always socialist, in that they are not involved in anything for profit.

Do the attendants know you've gotten to the computers again?????

Name a single thing that government does that if for a profit motive, so is not socialist?

 

[easyt65]

What Makes Socialism So Attractive?

FREE Sh!t!


The government takes care of your EVERY need!



It's an utter Utopia - no more need to worry

 

[PoliticalChic]

The problem as the "socialists" see it is income inequality.
Why should Bloomberg have $62b and they are in debt and are working for slave wages?
Why should the US devolve toward a few hundred "oligarch billionaires" and the rest of us "peons"?
We must band together to set things right, we must tax the rich and distribute the income more fairly.
IMHO the Republicans can't keep winning elections, so what happens when the democrats eventually win?

Certainly, what you say is true, and the most commonly attributed of socialism...

Dennis Prager has written

1. The Left has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.
2. The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it.

But there is more....there is need to claim that they are different from others who may be able to point to more accomplishments.

No leftist has ever supported Lenin, Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot, who were capitalists and killed off any socialist they could.
Ho Chi Minh and Castro are more of a mixture and not easily categorized.

All wealth actually is created by labor at the bottom.
The ones at the top simply can control what the laborers at the bottom get paid from the work they do, and do no production themselves, at all.

I must admit, you manage to make each post more stupid, more absurd, than the last.


So, you’re running for the job of President of the idiocracy???? Ya’ got my vote.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Because our capitalism is broken. Workers have few rights. We have many near monopolies, wage collusion, non compete agreements... the government is bought by corporations, look at all the money in politics...

There has never been a more opposite avi when compared to the individual who chose it, than yours.....



"...capitalism is broken."



85. “U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low”
Published: Oct 4, 2019 10:32 a.m. ET

U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low

86. “Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump” Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump
87. “Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low”
Huge October Payrolls Beat: 128K Jobs Added As Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low
88. “Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak The Dow Jones Industrial Average rallied to record levels on Friday, reaching 28,000 for the first time ever…” Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak
89. “Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000

Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones.

The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969.

Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000


90. “CNN Poll: US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years
(CNN)As 2019 comes to a close, the US economy earns its highest ratings in almost two decades, potentially boosting President Donald Trump in matchups against the Democrats vying to face him in next year's election, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.’” US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years, CNN poll finds - CNNPolitics

91." Appointing conservative judges is the one objective that unites the Republican Party. It is one of the few things the Senate can do without the House.

And it is something that immediately impacts public policy because, during times of divided government, many political fights end up being resolved judicially.

Trump may not have the “best people” representing him or running his White House, but he’s picking them to be judges. Indeed, “based solely on objective legal credentials,” left-leaning Vox’s Ian Millhiser says, “the average Trump appointee has a far more impressive résumé than any past president’s nominees.”
Approximately 40 percent of Trump’s appellate nominees clerked for a Supreme Court justice, and about 80 percent clerked on a federal court of appeals. That compares to less than a quarter of Obama’s nominees who clerked on the Supreme Court, and less than half with a federal appellate clerkship."
All We Want for Christmas is More Judges: Ho, Ho, Ho

92. “China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years
China’s economy was weighed down by U.S. tariffs…” China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years | Breitbart

93. “Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History” Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History
94. “Private payrolls soar in January, the best monthly gain in nearly 5 years The jobs market kicked off 2020 in grand fashion, adding 291,000 in private payrolls for the best monthly gain since May 2015, according to a report Wednesday from ADP and Moody’s Analytics. That was well above the 150,000 estimate from economists…” Private payrolls soar in January, the best monthly gain in nearly 5 years

95. “Trump Budget Cuts Size of Federal Government,
President Donald Trump’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2021 would reduce the size and reach of the federal bureaucracy significantly by shifting government responsibilities back to constitutional priorities and empowering state and local governments. These reforms, contained in the request Trump sent Monday morning to Congress, would put the budget on track to balance and represent a significant first step toward reducing spending and stabilizing the nation’s unsustainable debt.” Trump Budget Cuts Federal Government, but Bolder Reforms Needed

Super low unemployment with labor shortages and still weak wage growth. Capitalism broken.

huge tax cuts for corporations and gdp growth goes down.

it is broken...

Surely you have plans for a better destination ...


...I'll help you pack.

 

[Rigby5]

5. In Jung Chang’s autobiographical study of three generations of her family, “Wild Swans,” taking place during the period in which China went from the historical China, to the communist version, we see many of the same changes that are taking place in America today: old restrictions broken down…..with the ‘rebels’ not realizing that their brave new world would come with even more rigid ones.



The women of her family saw the communist’s promise to enforce equality between men and women as their chance to change the lives that had been dealt to them. But…with that came an even more rigid set of ‘party’ restrictions, just in the opposite direction from what had been traditional, but even more punitive: they told her who she could marry, and when, and how.

With, seemingly, good reason….

“The Communists were trying to institute a frugal approach to weddings, which had traditionally been the occasion for huge expenditure, far out of proportion to what people could afford. It was not at all unusual for families to bankrupt themselves to put on a lavish wedding.” Chang, “Wild Swans”

Free choice was still subverted to ‘I know what’s best for you!’
That's the message of every totalitarian regime.



"Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual") concretizes the collectivist belief that individuals have no rights and that "the greater good" is the only standard of value. Under such a system, man is not an end to himself, only a tool to be sacrificed for the Führer, autocrat or ruling mob.

Only capitalism regards man as a sovereign individual with an inalienable right to his own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Government recognition and protection of individual rights is the hallmark of a moral, peaceful, productive society."
Sipsey Street Irregulars: The lie before the crime. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual")





At least parents wouldn’t kill you for misbehaving.

Humans have existed for somewhere between 1 million and 4 million years, and capitalism has only existed for a few thousand years at most.
Humans are inherently socialist or communist,.and all families, tribes, etc., have always been that way.
When primates came down out of the trees, they had no fangs, claws, armor, or speed, so then like Meerkats, their only defense was cooperation. They sacrifice themselves for the defense of each other. Food is always shared.

 

[Rigby5]

Because our capitalism is broken. Workers have few rights. We have many near monopolies, wage collusion, non compete agreements... the government is bought by corporations, look at all the money in politics...

There has never been a more opposite avi when compared to the individual who chose it, than yours.....



"...capitalism is broken."



85. “U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low”
Published: Oct 4, 2019 10:32 a.m. ET

U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low

86. “Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump” Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump
87. “Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low”
Huge October Payrolls Beat: 128K Jobs Added As Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low
88. “Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak The Dow Jones Industrial Average rallied to record levels on Friday, reaching 28,000 for the first time ever…” Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak
89. “Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000

Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones.

The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969.

Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000


90. “CNN Poll: US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years
(CNN)As 2019 comes to a close, the US economy earns its highest ratings in almost two decades, potentially boosting President Donald Trump in matchups against the Democrats vying to face him in next year's election, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.’” US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years, CNN poll finds - CNNPolitics

91." Appointing conservative judges is the one objective that unites the Republican Party. It is one of the few things the Senate can do without the House.

And it is something that immediately impacts public policy because, during times of divided government, many political fights end up being resolved judicially.

Trump may not have the “best people” representing him or running his White House, but he’s picking them to be judges. Indeed, “based solely on objective legal credentials,” left-leaning Vox’s Ian Millhiser says, “the average Trump appointee has a far more impressive résumé than any past president’s nominees.”
Approximately 40 percent of Trump’s appellate nominees clerked for a Supreme Court justice, and about 80 percent clerked on a federal court of appeals. That compares to less than a quarter of Obama’s nominees who clerked on the Supreme Court, and less than half with a federal appellate clerkship."
All We Want for Christmas is More Judges: Ho, Ho, Ho

92. “China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years
China’s economy was weighed down by U.S. tariffs…” China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years | Breitbart

93. “Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History” Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History
94. “Private payrolls soar in January, the best monthly gain in nearly 5 years The jobs market kicked off 2020 in grand fashion, adding 291,000 in private payrolls for the best monthly gain since May 2015, according to a report Wednesday from ADP and Moody’s Analytics. That was well above the 150,000 estimate from economists…” Private payrolls soar in January, the best monthly gain in nearly 5 years

95. “Trump Budget Cuts Size of Federal Government,
President Donald Trump’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2021 would reduce the size and reach of the federal bureaucracy significantly by shifting government responsibilities back to constitutional priorities and empowering state and local governments. These reforms, contained in the request Trump sent Monday morning to Congress, would put the budget on track to balance and represent a significant first step toward reducing spending and stabilizing the nation’s unsustainable debt.” Trump Budget Cuts Federal Government, but Bolder Reforms Needed

Super low unemployment with labor shortages and still weak wage growth. Capitalism broken.

huge tax cuts for corporations and gdp growth goes down.

it is broken...

Surely you have plans for a better destination ...


...I'll help you pack.

There is no point in leaving a broken capitalist state because it will take over and destroy all other states.
It has to be fixed from within.

 

[Redfish]

Because our capitalism is broken. Workers have few rights. We have many near monopolies, wage collusion, non compete agreements... the government is bought by corporations, look at all the money in politics...

more horseshit. We have near monopolies BECAUSE of government regulations, Why can Walmart destroy every small business in a town when they build a store? Because small businesses are hamstrung with regulations and taxes the huge businesses can bury with profits.

What we need is a truly free market place, not one controlled from DC.


As to wages, you lefties bitch about Walmart wages but you praise the system that allows them to get away with paying low wages..

you bitch about corporations buying politicians but praise the politicians who are bought.

You libs are nothing but a walking contradiction.

 

[jasonnfree]

Here's the thing: Until you have had the experience of working to support yourself and actually seeing how much of your hard-earned money goes out in taxes, you lack the "wisdom" to understand why Socialism is evil. And it is evil. It is theft. Taking money from one group of people who have done nothing wrong, and giving it to others who have done nothing to earn it. That is definitional theft.

A large percentage of Bernie's supporters either have not had that experience, or have had the experience generally, but in a protected environment - government employment, foundation employment, employment in the Arts, and so on.

As I have mentioned repeatedly in this space, if the vote were limited to those who have worked Real Jobs in the Real World, and who have paid at least a nominal amount in FIT for a few years, the entire Democrat party could pack up its tent and leave town, and nobody would even notice.

Republicans are bad examples of working if this guy in the white house is any example. He's been mostly goofing off playing golf and tweeting for three years. Anyway, any links to prove that republicans work harder than democrats?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

People are attracted to socialism because they want somebody else to take care of them. In the case of the young in particular, they have always had their parents do that, and since these same parents did not prepare them to be an adult, they simply look to government for their nurturing.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

5. In Jung Chang’s autobiographical study of three generations of her family, “Wild Swans,” taking place during the period in which China went from the historical China, to the communist version, we see many of the same changes that are taking place in America today: old restrictions broken down…..with the ‘rebels’ not realizing that their brave new world would come with even more rigid ones.



The women of her family saw the communist’s promise to enforce equality between men and women as their chance to change the lives that had been dealt to them. But…with that came an even more rigid set of ‘party’ restrictions, just in the opposite direction from what had been traditional, but even more punitive: they told her who she could marry, and when, and how.

With, seemingly, good reason….

“The Communists were trying to institute a frugal approach to weddings, which had traditionally been the occasion for huge expenditure, far out of proportion to what people could afford. It was not at all unusual for families to bankrupt themselves to put on a lavish wedding.” Chang, “Wild Swans”

Free choice was still subverted to ‘I know what’s best for you!’
That's the message of every totalitarian regime.



"Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual") concretizes the collectivist belief that individuals have no rights and that "the greater good" is the only standard of value. Under such a system, man is not an end to himself, only a tool to be sacrificed for the Führer, autocrat or ruling mob.

Only capitalism regards man as a sovereign individual with an inalienable right to his own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Government recognition and protection of individual rights is the hallmark of a moral, peaceful, productive society."
Sipsey Street Irregulars: The lie before the crime. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual")





At least parents wouldn’t kill you for misbehaving.

Humans have existed for somewhere between 1 million and 4 million years, and capitalism has only existed for a few thousand years at most.
Humans are inherently socialist or communist,.and all families, tribes, etc., have always been that way.
When primates came down out of the trees, they had no fangs, claws, armor, or speed, so then like Meerkats, their only defense was cooperation. They sacrifice themselves for the defense of each other. Food is always shared.

Food is shared? No. Except for the very young, the very old and the feeble those that do not hunt do not eat. Eventually those who intend to share in the success of others are expelled from the tribe to live alone.

We have fought communists for years. It is time to wipe them out.

 

[Gdjjr]

and do no production themselves, at all.

I agree with that. However, the wealthy risk their capital to finance the means of production.

This isn't a cut and dried situation we operate under- capitalism, properly regulated, will cure the ills of inequality, perceived or real. Crony capitalism with a top down (gov't) intentionally misregulated system of borrow to spend enslaves all who participate. Degree of enslavement is the difference. The less you earn the more you're enslaved. The more gov't regulation the more obstacles that have to be circumvented which requires more money- the ones with less have to borrow to succeed- once they succeed, if they do, they become the villain to be demonized by the lesser than proponents-

 

[Brain357]

Because our capitalism is broken. Workers have few rights. We have many near monopolies, wage collusion, non compete agreements... the government is bought by corporations, look at all the money in politics...

There has never been a more opposite avi when compared to the individual who chose it, than yours.....



"...capitalism is broken."



85. “U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low”
Published: Oct 4, 2019 10:32 a.m. ET

U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low

86. “Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump” Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump
87. “Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low”
Huge October Payrolls Beat: 128K Jobs Added As Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low
88. “Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak The Dow Jones Industrial Average rallied to record levels on Friday, reaching 28,000 for the first time ever…” Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak
89. “Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000

Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones.

The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969.

Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000


90. “CNN Poll: US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years
(CNN)As 2019 comes to a close, the US economy earns its highest ratings in almost two decades, potentially boosting President Donald Trump in matchups against the Democrats vying to face him in next year's election, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.’” US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years, CNN poll finds - CNNPolitics

91." Appointing conservative judges is the one objective that unites the Republican Party. It is one of the few things the Senate can do without the House.

And it is something that immediately impacts public policy because, during times of divided government, many political fights end up being resolved judicially.

Trump may not have the “best people” representing him or running his White House, but he’s picking them to be judges. Indeed, “based solely on objective legal credentials,” left-leaning Vox’s Ian Millhiser says, “the average Trump appointee has a far more impressive résumé than any past president’s nominees.”
Approximately 40 percent of Trump’s appellate nominees clerked for a Supreme Court justice, and about 80 percent clerked on a federal court of appeals. That compares to less than a quarter of Obama’s nominees who clerked on the Supreme Court, and less than half with a federal appellate clerkship."
All We Want for Christmas is More Judges: Ho, Ho, Ho

92. “China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years
China’s economy was weighed down by U.S. tariffs…” China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years | Breitbart

93. “Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History” Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History
94. “Private payrolls soar in January, the best monthly gain in nearly 5 years The jobs market kicked off 2020 in grand fashion, adding 291,000 in private payrolls for the best monthly gain since May 2015, according to a report Wednesday from ADP and Moody’s Analytics. That was well above the 150,000 estimate from economists…” Private payrolls soar in January, the best monthly gain in nearly 5 years

95. “Trump Budget Cuts Size of Federal Government,
President Donald Trump’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2021 would reduce the size and reach of the federal bureaucracy significantly by shifting government responsibilities back to constitutional priorities and empowering state and local governments. These reforms, contained in the request Trump sent Monday morning to Congress, would put the budget on track to balance and represent a significant first step toward reducing spending and stabilizing the nation’s unsustainable debt.” Trump Budget Cuts Federal Government, but Bolder Reforms Needed

Super low unemployment with labor shortages and still weak wage growth. Capitalism broken.

huge tax cuts for corporations and gdp growth goes down.

it is broken...

Surely you have plans for a better destination ...


...I'll help you pack.

We need to fix this country. You like all the corruption?

 

[Brain357]

Because our capitalism is broken. Workers have few rights. We have many near monopolies, wage collusion, non compete agreements... the government is bought by corporations, look at all the money in politics...

more horseshit. We have near monopolies BECAUSE of government regulations, Why can Walmart destroy every small business in a town when they build a store? Because small businesses are hamstrung with regulations and taxes the huge businesses can bury with profits.

What we need is a truly free market place, not one controlled from DC.


As to wages, you lefties bitch about Walmart wages but you praise the system that allows them to get away with paying low wages..

you bitch about corporations buying politicians but praise the politicians who are bought.

You libs are nothing but a walking contradiction.

Well yes those are some of the reasons why it is broken. You seem to be aware our capitalism is broken.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

5. In Jung Chang’s autobiographical study of three generations of her family, “Wild Swans,” taking place during the period in which China went from the historical China, to the communist version, we see many of the same changes that are taking place in America today: old restrictions broken down…..with the ‘rebels’ not realizing that their brave new world would come with even more rigid ones.



The women of her family saw the communist’s promise to enforce equality between men and women as their chance to change the lives that had been dealt to them. But…with that came an even more rigid set of ‘party’ restrictions, just in the opposite direction from what had been traditional, but even more punitive: they told her who she could marry, and when, and how.

With, seemingly, good reason….

“The Communists were trying to institute a frugal approach to weddings, which had traditionally been the occasion for huge expenditure, far out of proportion to what people could afford. It was not at all unusual for families to bankrupt themselves to put on a lavish wedding.” Chang, “Wild Swans”

Free choice was still subverted to ‘I know what’s best for you!’
That's the message of every totalitarian regime.



"Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual") concretizes the collectivist belief that individuals have no rights and that "the greater good" is the only standard of value. Under such a system, man is not an end to himself, only a tool to be sacrificed for the Führer, autocrat or ruling mob.

Only capitalism regards man as a sovereign individual with an inalienable right to his own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Government recognition and protection of individual rights is the hallmark of a moral, peaceful, productive society."
Sipsey Street Irregulars: The lie before the crime. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual")





At least parents wouldn’t kill you for misbehaving.

Humans have existed for somewhere between 1 million and 4 million years, and capitalism has only existed for a few thousand years at most.
Humans are inherently socialist or communist,.and all families, tribes, etc., have always been that way.
When primates came down out of the trees, they had no fangs, claws, armor, or speed, so then like Meerkats, their only defense was cooperation. They sacrifice themselves for the defense of each other. Food is always shared.

Yes, by all means we should return to a state of Neolithic barbarism complete with its 40 year life expectancy.

Congratulations! you have out regressived even the most devout regressives here. Most only want us to go back to the seventh century, whereas you aim for a time 10000 years prior.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Has the staff here ever compared the IP addresses of Rigby and Brain?

The possibility certainly exists that there are two different 15 year olds with identical views posting here, but still......

 

[Brain357]

Has the staff here ever compared the IP addresses of Rigby and Brain?

The possibility certainly exists that there are two different 15 year olds with identical views posting here, but still......

Awe how cute. A trumper thinks he’s smart.