What makes arguing with liberals so frustrating #1

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Baruch Menachem, Feb 6, 2012.

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    This is not the question. Of course you want representative government. You want government powerful in its restricted sphere. And you want it to but out where it doesn't belong. I like the fact that the US government has nuclear bombs and 8 aircraft carriers on permanent duty. DonAld Trump should not have any. There are, however, a million places where the government should not be, because government is not competent in those areas, or tyrannical.
     
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    DEAR BARUCH,
    You keep telling us that government is incompetent and tends to make big problems worse. Fair enough big guy.

    But your side has been saying this every day for 36 years.

    Problem is: every time you seize power, you run up the debt like drunken sailors and create terrible messes for future generations.

    From Reagan's War on Drugs to Bush's War on Terrorism and Patriot Act, you have proved your thesis that Big Government can't Save the world - yet you never admit of your folly because your news sources only report Liberal failures (in welfare, taxation and regulation). Your job is not to be a mouthpiece for republican bumperstickers but to actually apply your concepts critically and intelligently (otherwise you sound like a repetitive drone).

    Consider this Dear Baruch,

    The War on Terrorism places more faith in Government competence than anything ever dreamed by FDR or LBJ. Not only did Bush claim that Washington could stop aggression, but he said Washington had the competence to destabilize - THEN - rebuild entire Arab cultures in our image. We were told that once Hussein was removed, the result would be democracy and freedom springing from the rubble.

    Even after it became apparent that Bush had created an omnivorous power vacuum and unleashed an ungovernable civil conflict, you kept promising that we were one more surge from glorious freedom, as it became apparent that this region was never going to accept a modern version of American Freedom, and that all we could hope for was perpetual waves of radicalism followed by endless surges . . . ultimately consigning future generations of Americans to an endless and bankrupting game of whack-a-mole.

    (Psst: what if government can't do big things? What if it can't rebuild whole foreign nations? What if once entrusted with the power to rebuild whole Arab cultures, our government starts unnecessary wars and fucks up an entire continent for generations? What if you can't see any of this because YOU are the one who trusts big government to do big things, and YOU are the one who should listen to your tired lectures about big government?)

    Of course there is a Silver Lining to all the power we gave Bush's Big Government. With the Patriot Act we built the most concentrated, technologically advanced surveillance system of any nation in history. What could go wrong?

    (Turn off talk radio and take a long look in the mirror before enlightening the rest of us)
     
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    You are pointing out areas where the government is incompetent , tyrannical, or counterproductive, IE the war on drugs, Bush's nation building and saying because these area show government being foolish this proves the OP is wrong? How do you make that out?
     
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    The ones they ignore? Yeah, that's a big factor.
     
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    Student loans? I've never heard the gop being totally against all student loans. Nor have I ever seen them advocatte for no temporary emergency food stamps. Don't know who you are listening to, but it isn't the gop.
     
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    Did you purposely pull up a thread from 2012, 4 years ago?
     
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    Baruch Menachem hasn't posted in two years. It is a good way of the poster now of arguing with someone who isn't here Another piece of dishonesty
     
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    The GOP doesn't, but libertarians do.
     
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    Boooshies were incompetent and tyranical in ALL areas lol. 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, the stupidest wars ever, AND a corrupt world depression. Great job! Denial is not an answer, but the only one GOPers seem to have.
     
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    Any version of socialism is bad. Hate to break it to you but it is about making a buck and keeping what you earned, believe it or not.
     

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