What it really means if Republicans scuttle the Iran deal:

Republicans aren't the only ones with reservations:

Brad Sherman (D – Calif.), the second ranking democratic member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, questioned whether the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was capable of preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon and expressed his skepticism of the nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), suggesting that it will need to be renegotiated
Democrats have conservatives.
Republicans have no liberals.
Democrats clearly do not walk in lockstep.
Republicans seem somewhat unhinged.
 
So exactly what is the big deal if Iran obtains a nuclear device?

Pakistan, India, Israel and North Korea supposedly have nuclear devices, nothing's happened except they haven't been invaded.

A lesson to any country I'd have thought.

Good point.

Here is a quick breakdown for you:
Make the deal- Iran gets a nuke in 10 yrs and $150 billion
Nix the deal- Iran gets a nuke in 10 years

So why give them $150 billion?

Nix the deal and keep the money and sanctions running.....
If the US is the only one with sanction against Iran, then we look pretty stupid and they are NOT impacted.
 
OR did Obama wanting some shred of legacy make an offer Iran couldn't refuse to come to the table...i.e. dropping sanctions?
Because Obama was concerned about his tattered legacy he sold the USA down the river by taking ANY deal and then agreeing to lifting the ONLY tool i.e. sanctions!
What delusion are you imagining?
 
Republicans aren't the only ones with reservations:

Brad Sherman (D – Calif.), the second ranking democratic member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, questioned whether the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was capable of preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon and expressed his skepticism of the nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), suggesting that it will need to be renegotiated
Democrats have conservatives.
Republicans have no liberals.
Democrats clearly do not walk in lockstep.
Republicans seem somewhat unhinged.
Says the village useful idiot.
:lol:
 
Republicans play politics. They are a desperate party. Willing to use this dangerous situation to score what they imagine are political points.

The Iran deal is with the US and six other nations. The current sanctions only work because the rest of the world participates. If Republicans mess up this deal after 5 other countries agreed to it, you can bet that will be the end of the sanctions. Which means Iran has plenty of oil to sell. Money will pour into Iran and they will do whatever they want. Including building nuclear weapons.

Republicans say they want a better deal. Republicans imagine they can get a better deal than the six countries Iran negotiated with. There is no better deal. It will only get worse. Republicans don't know how to negotiate and those people will not be intimidated by the US even though Republicans imagine they only need to be tough like Ronald Reagan and the Iranians will cower and do what we say. Such stupid ignorance when Iranians are willing to commit suicide. The Kamikaze's were the most dangerous during WWII for good reason.

The moratorium is for 15 years. No treaties are forever. 15 years is a long time. A lot can happen in that time. Look at the Middle East before Bush and the GOP. It was relatively stable. Now they have turned it into a violent quagmire pretty much without any more Christians. What happened to Iraq's Christians under Bush? And Bush did it in a few years, not 15.

So because this deal is scuttled, we are expected to go bomb them if they build a nuclear weapon? A country three times the size of Iraq with lots more oil? Are Republicans willing to send their kids off on another fiasco? What if people stop joining the military because of GOP foolish policies? Then what? And how will the rest of the world react. Will they put sanctions on us?

And as Obama pointed out, the hard right in Iran scream "Death to America" while the hard right here scream, "Bomb bomb bomb.......bomb bomb Iran". That means their hard right and our hard right are working together.
When did Schmuck Schumer switch parties?
 
Republicans aren't the only ones with reservations:

Brad Sherman (D – Calif.), the second ranking democratic member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, questioned whether the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was capable of preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon and expressed his skepticism of the nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), suggesting that it will need to be renegotiated
Democrats have conservatives.
Republicans have no liberals.
Democrats clearly do not walk in lockstep.
Republicans seem somewhat unhinged.

Democrats do not have conservatives.
Republicans do have liberals who want just as much big government.
 
Republicans play politics. They are a desperate party. Willing to use this dangerous situation to score what they imagine are political points.

The Iran deal is with the US and six other nations. The current sanctions only work because the rest of the world participates. If Republicans mess up this deal after 5 other countries agreed to it, you can bet that will be the end of the sanctions. Which means Iran has plenty of oil to sell. Money will pour into Iran and they will do whatever they want. Including building nuclear weapons.

Republicans say they want a better deal. Republicans imagine they can get a better deal than the six countries Iran negotiated with. There is no better deal. It will only get worse. Republicans don't know how to negotiate and those people will not be intimidated by the US even though Republicans imagine they only need to be tough like Ronald Reagan and the Iranians will cower and do what we say. Such stupid ignorance when Iranians are willing to commit suicide. The Kamikaze's were the most dangerous during WWII for good reason.

The moratorium is for 15 years. No treaties are forever. 15 years is a long time. A lot can happen in that time. Look at the Middle East before Bush and the GOP. It was relatively stable. Now they have turned it into a violent quagmire pretty much without any more Christians. What happened to Iraq's Christians under Bush? And Bush did it in a few years, not 15.

So because this deal is scuttled, we are expected to go bomb them if they build a nuclear weapon? A country three times the size of Iraq with lots more oil? Are Republicans willing to send their kids off on another fiasco? What if people stop joining the military because of GOP foolish policies? Then what? And how will the rest of the world react. Will they put sanctions on us?

And as Obama pointed out, the hard right in Iran scream "Death to America" while the hard right here scream, "Bomb bomb bomb.......bomb bomb Iran". That means their hard right and our hard right are working together.
When did Schmuck Schumer switch parties?
When they dumped Cruz..
 
Republicans play politics. They are a desperate party. Willing to use this dangerous situation to score what they imagine are political points.

The Iran deal is with the US and six other nations. The current sanctions only work because the rest of the world participates. If Republicans mess up this deal after 5 other countries agreed to it, you can bet that will be the end of the sanctions. Which means Iran has plenty of oil to sell. Money will pour into Iran and they will do whatever they want. Including building nuclear weapons.

Republicans say they want a better deal. Republicans imagine they can get a better deal than the six countries Iran negotiated with. There is no better deal. It will only get worse. Republicans don't know how to negotiate and those people will not be intimidated by the US even though Republicans imagine they only need to be tough like Ronald Reagan and the Iranians will cower and do what we say. Such stupid ignorance when Iranians are willing to commit suicide. The Kamikaze's were the most dangerous during WWII for good reason.

The moratorium is for 15 years. No treaties are forever. 15 years is a long time. A lot can happen in that time. Look at the Middle East before Bush and the GOP. It was relatively stable. Now they have turned it into a violent quagmire pretty much without any more Christians. What happened to Iraq's Christians under Bush? And Bush did it in a few years, not 15.

So because this deal is scuttled, we are expected to go bomb them if they build a nuclear weapon? A country three times the size of Iraq with lots more oil? Are Republicans willing to send their kids off on another fiasco? What if people stop joining the military because of GOP foolish policies? Then what? And how will the rest of the world react. Will they put sanctions on us?

And as Obama pointed out, the hard right in Iran scream "Death to America" while the hard right here scream, "Bomb bomb bomb.......bomb bomb Iran". That means their hard right and our hard right are working together.
When did Schmuck Schumer switch parties?

Schumers a Republican?

Lol
 
Republicans aren't the only ones with reservations:

Brad Sherman (D – Calif.), the second ranking democratic member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, questioned whether the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was capable of preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon and expressed his skepticism of the nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), suggesting that it will need to be renegotiated
Democrats have conservatives.
Republicans have no liberals.
Democrats clearly do not walk in lockstep.
Republicans seem somewhat unhinged.

Democrats do not have conservatives.
Republicans do have liberals who want just as much big government.
Democrats have conservatives. They are called "Blue Dogs".
Blue Dog Coalition - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You can't find anything about liberal Republicans.

You should know better.
 
Republicans aren't the only ones with reservations:

Brad Sherman (D – Calif.), the second ranking democratic member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, questioned whether the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was capable of preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon and expressed his skepticism of the nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), suggesting that it will need to be renegotiated
Democrats have conservatives.
Republicans have no liberals.
Democrats clearly do not walk in lockstep.
Republicans seem somewhat unhinged.
Says the village useful idiot.
:lol:
Attack when you have nothing else.
 
Republicans play politics. They are a desperate party. Willing to use this dangerous situation to score what they imagine are political points.

The Iran deal is with the US and six other nations. The current sanctions only work because the rest of the world participates. If Republicans mess up this deal after 5 other countries agreed to it, you can bet that will be the end of the sanctions. Which means Iran has plenty of oil to sell. Money will pour into Iran and they will do whatever they want. Including building nuclear weapons.

Republicans say they want a better deal. Republicans imagine they can get a better deal than the six countries Iran negotiated with. There is no better deal. It will only get worse. Republicans don't know how to negotiate and those people will not be intimidated by the US even though Republicans imagine they only need to be tough like Ronald Reagan and the Iranians will cower and do what we say. Such stupid ignorance when Iranians are willing to commit suicide. The Kamikaze's were the most dangerous during WWII for good reason.

The moratorium is for 15 years. No treaties are forever. 15 years is a long time. A lot can happen in that time. Look at the Middle East before Bush and the GOP. It was relatively stable. Now they have turned it into a violent quagmire pretty much without any more Christians. What happened to Iraq's Christians under Bush? And Bush did it in a few years, not 15.

So because this deal is scuttled, we are expected to go bomb them if they build a nuclear weapon? A country three times the size of Iraq with lots more oil? Are Republicans willing to send their kids off on another fiasco? What if people stop joining the military because of GOP foolish policies? Then what? And how will the rest of the world react. Will they put sanctions on us?

And as Obama pointed out, the hard right in Iran scream "Death to America" while the hard right here scream, "Bomb bomb bomb.......bomb bomb Iran". That means their hard right and our hard right are working together.
The thread is actually about when Republicans fail, again.
 
Republicans aren't the only ones with reservations:

Brad Sherman (D – Calif.), the second ranking democratic member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, questioned whether the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was capable of preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon and expressed his skepticism of the nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), suggesting that it will need to be renegotiated
Democrats have conservatives.
Republicans have no liberals.
Democrats clearly do not walk in lockstep.
Republicans seem somewhat unhinged.

Democrats do not have conservatives.
Republicans do have liberals who want just as much big government.
Democrats have conservatives. They are called "Blue Dogs".
Blue Dog Coalition - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You can't find anything about liberal Republicans.

You should know better.

There was 50 Blue Dogs 4 years ago now there are only 15.
 
We've seen this exact thing before.

Ronald Reagan campaigned on Carter's weakness against Iran.

Then it was revealed that his administration had met with Iranian leaders both prior to the 1980 election and throughout his first term (Iran-Contra).

The greatest conservative president of all time not only sold weapons to terrorists but he used the proceeds to fund an illegal war in Central America. He fucking shredded the American Constitution.

So whenever a Republican mentions Iran, I can't help but laugh.

But it's also quite sad. Because the rest of the country - I'm talking about the folks not trapped in the FOX bubble - knows that the GOP is completely full of shit on Iran.

Seriously, how many times are we going to be fooled by the Republican playbook. I.e., using Iran & Terrorism for political gain.
 
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Republicans aren't the only ones with reservations:

Brad Sherman (D – Calif.), the second ranking democratic member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, questioned whether the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was capable of preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon and expressed his skepticism of the nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), suggesting that it will need to be renegotiated
Democrats have conservatives.
Republicans have no liberals.
Democrats clearly do not walk in lockstep.
Republicans seem somewhat unhinged.

Democrats do not have conservatives.
Republicans do have liberals who want just as much big government.
Democrats have conservatives. They are called "Blue Dogs".
Blue Dog Coalition - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You can't find anything about liberal Republicans.

You should know better.

There was 50 Blue Dogs 4 years ago now there are only 15.
Republicans have discredited conservatism. Thought that was obvious.
 
Sorry Retardean, but the constitution subjects treaties to the "Advice and consent of the Senate". It's called "checks and balances".

The US Constitution- you should read it.

:thup:

PS- You're a fag.
PS You're a fag? Is that "Fans Against Gordon"?
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Why do you want Iran, the world's biggest supporter of terrorist groups, a nuclear bomb?
The treaty doesn't give them one. But not having a treaty will. Which is what Republicans want. Why?
 
Exactly what I predicted is happening.

'Death to England': British embassy bears mark of Iran's past anger

Great Britain is opening an embassy in Iran. Will they bother to keep sanctions going they open diplomatic relations with Iran? Of course not.

And what about the other countries. Republicans will leave this country isolated and Iran with a nuclear bomb before they are through.
 

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