What is your opinion on Mr Putin?

Why do you ignore my mentioning of Kotsaba and Sharij?
Kotsaba spent 3,5 year in prison because of his publication in fb.
Sharij is forced to live in Europe because he is not journalist working for mainstream.
Both always prove their words with facts. Both show ugly face of today's regime of Ukraine.
What can I say about them? Kotsaba spent one and a half year (not 3.5 years) in prison because of public calls against mobilization. Then he was freed and his case was closed by a higher court. Was he imprisoned for his beliefs? Yes, it seems he was.

I don’t know much about Sharij. I have seen some of his videos on Youtube. He maybe says right things sometimes, but does it one-sidedly. Definitely a witty guy. He fled Ukraine when Yanukovych was the president.

Let's also mention web site 'mirotvorets' created by deputy of internal affairs minister. Names, addresses and phones of antigovernment activists are published there. Several persons were killed by radicals including writer Oles' Buzina.
Is that normal too?
I have never visited the site of Mirotvorets. If there personal information of some people is exposed, then no, it isn’t normal.

Figures... look thoroughly. I have found all I wanted but you simply don't want to.
You virtually refused to confirm your words by official data. It is your right.

Refusal to enter the country is always based on something. Not in my case. And there were numerous of such cases like mine.
Of course, there is always a reason. You are citizen of the country which officially considered as aggressor in Ukraine. You can’t ignore this fact and behave as if nothing happened.
 
Why do you ignore my mentioning of Kotsaba and Sharij?
Kotsaba spent 3,5 year in prison because of his publication in fb.
Sharij is forced to live in Europe because he is not journalist working for mainstream.
Both always prove their words with facts. Both show ugly face of today's regime of Ukraine.
What can I say about them? Kotsaba spent one and a half year (not 3.5 years) in prison because of public calls against mobilization. Then he was freed and his case was closed by a higher court. Was he imprisoned for his beliefs? Yes, it seems he was.

I don’t know much about Sharij. I have seen some of his videos on Youtube. He maybe says right things sometimes, but does it one-sidedly. Definitely a witty guy. He fled Ukraine when Yanukovych was the president.

Let's also mention web site 'mirotvorets' created by deputy of internal affairs minister. Names, addresses and phones of antigovernment activists are published there. Several persons were killed by radicals including writer Oles' Buzina.
Is that normal too?
I have never visited the site of Mirotvorets. If there personal information of some people is exposed, then no, it isn’t normal.

Figures... look thoroughly. I have found all I wanted but you simply don't want to.
You virtually refused to confirm your words by official data. It is your right.

Refusal to enter the country is always based on something. Not in my case. And there were numerous of such cases like mine.
Of course, there is always a reason. You are citizen of the country which officially considered as aggressor in Ukraine. You can’t ignore this fact and behave as if nothing happened.
About statistics regarding to Ukrainian refugees in Russia.
I wrote approximate figures from my head, checked some in sites mentioned for you above.
Now I tried to find more accurate data and it is really very complicated question.
Here is one of the articles where discussed subject is described:
Депортация украинцев из России в 2017 году

Kotsaba was sentenced to 3,5 years. Maybe he was freed earlier. Good.
Sharij doesn't look one-sidedly for me. He has a lot of critics against Russia as well and I disagree with him in some matters but he shows the criminal face of today's Ukrainian authorities with proves that can hardly be refuted.

As for 'Mirotvorets' simply check it yourself.
сайт Миротворец. Последние новости по тегу сайт Миротворец - Strana
Ukrainian link. Such as you won't believe to Russian one.
 
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So, you are an ethnic Russian, and were living in western Ukraine. Your story is similar to many ethnic Ukrainians who lived in Donbas (eastern Ukraine), but in REVERSE.
Under the Russian separatists, directed by Russian "volunteers" from Moscow & other parts of Russia, the Ukrainians living in their own homeland, in Donbas, and who did not want to separate, were also terrorized, killed, or forced to leave. A form of disgusting "ethnic cleansing". Sad!

I'm glad you & family survived & are doing OK now.
Ethnically I am Ukrainian, born by Ukrainians in Ukraine. But I refuse to call myself Ukrainian because I don't admit that such nation exists.

If we go back to 9th century ...
If one knows history he will realize that Russians and Ukrainians are one nation, ...

Back to the subject.
In Donbass not Russians came to fight but Ukrainians from west came to fight! Donbass' citizens fight against Kiev. Kiev shots civilians. Recently I posted here video of air strikes over center of Luhansk. And there are many other proves of Ukrainian aggression against civilians.
Of course a lot of refugees from Donbass went to west, I suppose equal quantity as those left for Russia. They run not basing on their political preferences but they chose where it would be easier for them to live - relatives, friends etc.
People living in Donbass are not supposed to be Ukrainians by nazis in Kiev and western Ukraine ...
If you do not think the Ukraine nation should exist, and that Ukrainians are really Russian, then you are obviously "Russian". Are you also a Putin troll paid by the Kremlin?

I know both Russian & Ukrainian immigrants here in USA that would not only disagree with your Russian nationalistic (nazi?) comments, but would label you a traitor if you really were born in Ukraine from ethnic Ukrainian parents. Almost like saying "Russians" are really "Ukrainians" (Kievan-Rus) because Kiev existed hundreds of years before Moscow!
And as stupid as saying Austria is really Germany, or Portugal is really Spain.
 
So, you are an ethnic Russian, and were living in western Ukraine. Your story is similar to many ethnic Ukrainians who lived in Donbas (eastern Ukraine), but in REVERSE.
Under the Russian separatists, directed by Russian "volunteers" from Moscow & other parts of Russia, the Ukrainians living in their own homeland, in Donbas, and who did not want to separate, were also terrorized, killed, or forced to leave. A form of disgusting "ethnic cleansing". Sad!

I'm glad you & family survived & are doing OK now.
Ethnically I am Ukrainian, born by Ukrainians in Ukraine. But I refuse to call myself Ukrainian because I don't admit that such nation exists.

If we go back to 9th century ...
If one knows history he will realize that Russians and Ukrainians are one nation, ...

Back to the subject.
In Donbass not Russians came to fight but Ukrainians from west came to fight! Donbass' citizens fight against Kiev. Kiev shots civilians. Recently I posted here video of air strikes over center of Luhansk. And there are many other proves of Ukrainian aggression against civilians.
Of course a lot of refugees from Donbass went to west, I suppose equal quantity as those left for Russia. They run not basing on their political preferences but they chose where it would be easier for them to live - relatives, friends etc.
People living in Donbass are not supposed to be Ukrainians by nazis in Kiev and western Ukraine ...
If you do not think the Ukraine nation should exist, and that Ukrainians are really Russian, then you are obviously "Russian". Are you also a Putin troll paid by the Kremlin?

I know both Russian & Ukrainian immigrants here in USA that would not only disagree with your Russian nationalistic (nazi?) comments, but would label you a traitor if you really were born in Ukraine from ethnic Ukrainian parents. Almost like saying "Russians" are really "Ukrainians" (Kievan-Rus) because Kiev existed hundreds of years before Moscow!
And as stupid as saying Austria is really Germany, or Portugal is really Spain.
If someone agrees the policy of Putin's authorities and defends his points he is certainly a paid troll right?
I simply compare what kind of Russia we had in 90s and how it began to change after his coming.

I never told Ukrainian nation should not exist, I told that I don't admit it is a separate nation. Read my post #204.
Maybe it is a nation....100years old, just like kazakhs, azerbaijanians and some others created in the beginning of 20th century.
You blame me having nazist position but I never placed some nation above others which is the main idea of Nazism. And I live in Russia country of more than 200 nations living together for ages...so "Russian nationalism" in our authority's policy is fake created by your fake media.
Traitors are those your friends who left their motherland in hard years.
 
I know lots of Russians that live here and wants to kill putin. You are not being honest.
1. So why are people get arrested when they demonstrating peacefully?
2. Freedom of speak in your kitchen but not freedom as you publish your opinion to the public.
3. Your media are in total control by Putin and his cronies.
4. Didn't they just had a demonstration against corruption but they arrested all the leaders?
5. Give me one example that non Russian like me would consider Putin a nice guy.
6. Why political opponents are being murdered?
7. They are rounding up gays and lesbians.

Those are facts.
Lots of Russian living in the USA are poisoned by your propaganda. Or how can you explain such a high level of putin's popularity in Russia? There are numerous social interviews proving that, anonymous as well, organized by foreign organizations as well.

1. Last arrests were 12 of April. The strictest punishment was 15 days in jail. Only those were arrested who organized meetings in not approved by local authorities places. They are all free now.
Let's recall how American authorities act against such demonstrations - occupy Wall Street, recent rallies in Dakota, anti-police violence rallies...
Remember in October 2013 woman was shot near capitoleum?

2. Freedom of publication of any opinions. You may check web sites, video blogs, tv and radio channels who everyday express their anti government statements. On central tv channels there are many political talk shows where opposing people are invited. About a month ago there was video call to Ukrainian general who could say whatever he wanted. And he expressed his being surprised in Ukrainian media next day.

3. Nothing of the kind. Read the previous point.

4. Not all but few of them. Those who violated the law. And the are free now.

5. One reason. If you stop blindly believe to your mainstream media and start look for more alternative sources. If you try to think on who is the one getting benefit from one case or another. In that case after about month or two you will realize that Western policy is sick and western media are filled with lies and propaganda. Than you will understand who does better for the world in common, who is honest.
Why Russia suddenly became so bad? They only wanted not to be touched not to be threatened... but when the USA began to organize color revolutions around Russia they had to protect themselves. Isn't it? When the USA settled rocket systems in Eastern Europe why shouldn't it supposed to be a threat? What would happen if Russian set rockets in Cuba, Venezuela? If Russia would change regime in Mexico?
Try to imagine mirror situation for more objective points of view.

6. Who is murdered? Nemtsov?
He was not so popular. He was in opposition for many years and nobody killed him. And do you really believe Putin is so stupid to organize murder in front of kremlin? The same bs as in Litvinenko case where western official point of view is "plutonium was used to murder him". Plutonium. Right for easier tracking who did it.
Weren't suspicious deaths of those who were opposing Clinton while your recent elections?

7. Who and where rounds up gays? I would place them to special clinics for curing but Russian authorities don't do it.
All we have against homosexuals is the only law: propaganda of homosexuality among children is forbidden. Gay parades sometimes are organized but our people are very negative to them do police is forced to protect them. Why cannot people follow their Christianic values why should we protect sick idiots?
The position of most Russians about gays is: if you wish to fuck ass - do it! But do it quietly at home and don't involve normal people or especially children in your perversion.

All you posted are not facts. But what you suppose to be facts.

All I posted may be checked in internet. So do it please.

Do you expect me to believe all or any of that?

Putin's popularity at 85% in Russia is a joke ------ why not 95%?
1, 2, 3, 4. We are free demonstrate anyplace and anytime. Sometimes people do get killed during demonstrations but that doesn't stop us from expressing our freedom. Im supposed to believe that Russian media are not controlled by Putin and his cronies? Read the link below. Am I supposed to believe that the whole world is against Putin?
5. The only reason those missiles was in placed in Poland and Romania and the deployment of US troops----- is because of Putin invasion of Ukraine.
Your example of Cuba and Venezuela is dishonest. Did we threatened to invade Cuba and Venezuela? Hell no. And why in the world we will invade those countries? At what reason? Except that Hugo is lunatic.
6. So you are saying that all the political opponents that was murdered are fake? Killed by the west then blame Putin?
Suspicious death opposing Clinton? Like what?
7. So you are saying in GENERAL that gays are having sex public all over the nation? Really?

WHY in the world I will search the Internet for you? YOU posted all these distorted propaganda it's your job to post any links to support your claim. NOT me.


How censorship works in Vladimir Putin’s Russia

Russian police round up LGBT activists demonstrating against persecution of gay men in Chechnya
 
... So who is training the sophisticated Russian anti aircraft separatists in Ukraine?
Do you mean MH17?
You can see how western propaganda works. Everyone in west is sure that rebels splashed that Boeing and no one ever says that it could be done by Ukrainians.

Ok. Here are some facts.
After Ukrainian army started air strikes against civilian objects ( )
Rebels started using Igla (soviet analog of Stinger but more accurate one). And they splashed several planes. But of course it may shoot at low heights from 10 meters to 3500.
Ukrainians decided to organize huge provocation. And they splashed Boeing 777.
1. When it happened? A day before meeting of European Union leaders when they decided to discuss sanctions against Russia. Of course the result was - sanctions were admitted.
2. Before being splashed Boeing had changed its height and course. Why? Who could order? Only dispatcher...Ukrainian one. But Ukrainians still haven't provided that tape to investigators.
3. 2 days later Russian military provided all records of radar control but Americans haven't though they had awacs there. Why?
4. International investigators were invited immediately to Donbass by rebels and were insured there won't be fire from their side. Ukrainian army started massive shelling of Grabovo - small village where Boeing fell down though there weren't any rebels' soldiers there. After almost a month investigators could get to the place. By that moment black boxes were found and given to them by rebels without any clauses.
5. Parts of the plane were not driven away for almost a year. How did they plan to investigate? Or may be they didn't plan to?
6. Russia's producer of "Buk" (anti air system used for splashing) organized full demonstration on how their system works. They shown where the rocket could come from, what kind of damage it will cause and explained the difference between old 'Buk' available to Ukrainians and new one which is Russian. But their information was ignored.
7. Ukrainian dispatcher disappeared.

...too many questions. And these are just from my head and I am not a specialist.


Coming from Putin defense---- Link?
 
You have multi quotes so I have to sent my rebuttal this way.

As far as I know I have a freedom of speech, press, religion, gathering, assembly etc etc. In Russia you get arrested just by expressing your freedom of speech against corruption. You also get arrested or round up just by being a gay.
Let me answer as a person living in Russia.
I have absolute freedom to speak whatever I think about anything. Those who don't like Putin and his policy a free to speak about it...in kitchen talks, in mass media anywhere.
Press. We have numerous media resources freely showing their disagreement to Putin. We have here free of payment foreign tv-channels (if you wish I may make a photo of my tv screen to prove my words)
Assembly or meeting are not forbidden but if talking about mass meetings it should be approved by local authorities beforehand. That rule take place in almost every country in the world.
Religion. Absolute freedom. We have here a lot of muslims, buddists and non-orthodox christians have their own churches as well - there is catholic one not far from my home.
Arrests for taking part in meetings happen only when one violates the law: either meeting was not allowed or there were some criminal violations against police, other people or some property.
Gays are not forbidden and not being arrested. But propaganda of homosexuality among children is forbidden. As for me I would catch homosexuals and place them into special clinics - them is a disease, affront of human nature and religion values.

So, all those statements you posted about Russia is absolute lie. If you don't believe me I can even invite you to visit me and to see the real picture yourself.

I know lots of Russians that live here and wants to kill putin. You are not being honest.
1. So why are people get arrested when they demonstrating peacefully?
2. Freedom of speak in your kitchen but not freedom as you publish your opinion to the public.
3. Your media are in total control by Putin and his cronies.
4. Didn't they just had a demonstration against corruption but they arrested all the leaders?
5. Give me one example that non Russian like me would consider Putin a nice guy.
6. Why political opponents are being murdered?
7. They are rounding up gays and lesbians.

Those are facts.

Ha-ha, I have different sight on this, because I'm here... :)
1. No one peaceful demonstrants were arrested. If you violate the law and organize mass demonstration without informing of authorities - they'll just stop it. But offcourse police arrests hooligans. You're seeing from media picture, how "tiny girl arrested by huge policemans"... They're not showing a size of stone, this girl threw at head of one policeman. Yes, policemen are brave guys, but they permanently get damage from this "peaceful" demonstrants...

2. I have a blog, where I writing everything I think. It periodically attacked by "liberals", that hate people, having different opinion. But no one from authorities could forbid my blog.

3. All Russian media are controlled by their financial owners. Putin doesn't relate anything to this control :)

6. Not murdered, but prisoned... But in fact, for the real crime... Damn, this authorities leave many swindlers, walking free - that's real crime of authorities. They MUST keep law - instead of it they looking at media, you watch and "try not to prison Putin's political opponents" instead of what they MUST do.

7. About gays and lesbian - yes, they are forced to have EQUAL rights with other people in Russia, not to be privileged. Offcourse, it's a serious crime for western world, discriminating WASPs...

All I can tell you is I'm LMAO.
You can flip ----- INPUT, NIPUT UTPIN, INTUP ----- However you want there is nothing good coming out for PUTIN.
 
A dictators or rulers like Stalin cannot be proven corrupt or not because they rule the country------ so it's hard to proved without check and balance.
Communism is p

1. You can do it after their death. Stalin had nothing...

2. What is corruption? Corruption is using power of authority to reach targets, non-coordinated with targets of authority. True dictator DEFINES targets for authority. So, he cannot be corrupted. It's a simple logic, like 2+2, and it's a small step to reduce media zombifying and having own opinion.

3. P.S. I've read definition of corruption in wiki... In according with it EVERY politician is corrupted, just because he has a salary. But if every politician is corrupted, why do we have to use this term in general?

I pressed send prematurely so I redid my post.

1. Communism is no better than Hitler dictatorship.

You didn't touch both. Hitler's invasion murdered some of my relatives. Communism not.

Welfare state, so good for you - is just an answer for Communism. Without it, you could have capitalism in Jack London style and much more furious.

Do you know, why your propaganda dislike communism? Because it MORE EFFECTIVE economically. Look at China and Vietnam and compare dynamics with US economics...

So why did communism died?

Without US both Vietnam and China will be like Venezuela.

People.. Practice shows, not every people able to live in communist society.

Look around. IT companies like Google widely use de-facto communist practices to organize employees - and have success. But this employees are high-qualified and educated specialists...And much companies cannot do something just because of quality of employees... USSR fallen because of mentality of current active generation... If it could live about 10-20 years else, for the new generation - I think, it would have much more chances to stay alive. But not all is lost - СССР-2061: Главная

Link?
 
...BTW didn't you just said you escaped from Ukraine because of putin invasion?
I've written the reason of my escape above.
Do you have proves of Putin's invasion?
Even Department of State said that they don't have proves of Russian army presence in Ukraine.

And I ran from Kiev overfilled by nazis backed by USAEU.

Commodities in Russia are soaring, population is dwindling, brain drain------- Sorry but I don't see any good news coming out from Russia but hardship.
Which is true- imported goods became 50% more expensive. And it is one of the main claims to our government and their ruling the economy. But you shouldn't forget that our economy was ruined by you and only after 2001-2002 we started building something. Now we may base mostly on resources but it will not last long, don't worry.
Anyway people do not suffer that much as your media tell. For example the lowest salary in my company is $1000 while 500 is enough for eating and paying for а flat. If you wish I may send you my recent check from supermarket do that you could compare prices.

Population. You got old info.
And thanks for mentioning this subject - in this picture one can notice that situation with population became better after Putin's coming.
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This is official statistics.
As you can see we are in positive figures now.
And pay attention at 2014 - a lot of people from Ukraine came to Russia.

From outsider what is there for me that Putin is a good guy not a thug-------- considering he currently supply arms to Iran and Syria that supports terrorism in ME and elsewhere in the region.
Just imagine if the US is the not there. The whole ME will be so screwed up as it is with the help of Putin.
All these are simply propaganda words without any proves.
Here is interesting video which make me believe that West is not fatally sick. You still have honest people.

I like her answering questions at 13:30 most of all.
She is saying true facts.

And now just imagine if USA wasn't there what would happen? There won't be a war and suffering people!


Bullshit. So what are the Russians doing in Crimea? Having a party?

Crippling sanctions was only applied after Putin invasion ------------ so blame it on Putin.

Are you denying that Putin is not supplying arms to Syria and Iran?

Russia's population peaked from 149 millions in 1991 to 144 millions in 2015 Crimea included. That's 24 years. Why do you lie?


Russia Expected to Lose 32 Million People by 2050

Russian Demographics: The Perfect Storm | YaleGlobal Online
 
Remember all: Ukraine will be included into Russian territory again. Do not know when, but still. Everybody who follows the news about this country knows it. By recent period this under-country have been living upon the IMF credits. The time to return them is near.

By the way, today's news: Ukrainian industry outcome has fallen by 6.1% in comparison with April year ago.
 
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Vladimir Putin rescuing an endangered snow leopard, kindness quelling the cat's natural fear of man.
4 months ago that leopard died in car accident (((
2 months ago new road with tunnel under that forest was finished.
It is 200 km away from me

That's nice.

BTW------ You've been here for over 3 years and you have a very very limited post.
Are they charging you by the character? Just wondering.

Just checked your profile and every time every time I checked someone's profile-------- I became a follower. Not sure why it does that.
 
...BTW didn't you just said you escaped from Ukraine because of putin invasion?
I've written the reason of my escape above.
Do you have proves of Putin's invasion?
Even Department of State said that they don't have proves of Russian army presence in Ukraine.

And I ran from Kiev overfilled by nazis backed by USAEU.

Commodities in Russia are soaring, population is dwindling, brain drain------- Sorry but I don't see any good news coming out from Russia but hardship.
Which is true- imported goods became 50% more expensive. And it is one of the main claims to our government and their ruling the economy. But you shouldn't forget that our economy was ruined by you and only after 2001-2002 we started building something. Now we may base mostly on resources but it will not last long, don't worry.
Anyway people do not suffer that much as your media tell. For example the lowest salary in my company is $1000 while 500 is enough for eating and paying for а flat. If you wish I may send you my recent check from supermarket do that you could compare prices.

Population. You got old info.
And thanks for mentioning this subject - in this picture one can notice that situation with population became better after Putin's coming.
View attachment 127435
This is official statistics.
As you can see we are in positive figures now.
And pay attention at 2014 - a lot of people from Ukraine came to Russia.

From outsider what is there for me that Putin is a good guy not a thug-------- considering he currently supply arms to Iran and Syria that supports terrorism in ME and elsewhere in the region.
Just imagine if the US is the not there. The whole ME will be so screwed up as it is with the help of Putin.
All these are simply propaganda words without any proves.
Here is interesting video which make me believe that West is not fatally sick. You still have honest people.

I like her answering questions at 13:30 most of all.
She is saying true facts.

And now just imagine if USA wasn't there what would happen? There won't be a war and suffering people!


Bullshit. So what are the Russians doing in Crimea? Having a party?

Crippling sanctions was only applied after Putin invasion ------------ so blame it on Putin.

Are you denying that Putin is not supplying arms to Syria and Iran?

Russia's population peaked from 149 millions in 1991 to 144 millions in 2015 Crimea included. That's 24 years. Why do you lie?


Russia Expected to Lose 32 Million People by 2050

Russian Demographics: The Perfect Storm | YaleGlobal Online

Russian demographics. Simply check statistics.
Demographics of Russia - Wikipedia
After Putin's coming the situation became changing for better according to figures.
But you will never accept is like a fact.

All I posted in 1-7 points may be checked easily. But in your media truth about Russia is not welcome. They lie much.
Remember how it was in Sochi while Olympics? Fake about double toilets, wolves in hotels and other bs alike. And what people said after returning back to the USA/Canada?

Syria and Iran get Russian weapon on absolutely legal grounds as well as Qatar, Saudi, Pakistan and others get it from on the US.
But in Syria Russia supplies authorities while the USA supplied terrorists.

As for US missile defense the decision to place them in Eastern Europe was in 2007. What invasion to Ukraine are you talking about?
United States national missile defense - Wikipedia

Besides what can you say about Russian invasion to Ukraine in 2014? Do you have any facts?
Even Department of State officially stated that they have no reliable proofs of Russian army's presence in Ukraine. Either you lie or them.
Or maybe you simply blindly believe to your mainstream fake media?

Crimea. What do you know about Crimea?
It's history, real wishes of people living there?
NATO plans of building base in Sevastopol...
How many were killed while this terrible annexation and how people live there today in comparison to Ukraine.


Before writing that bs about Russia you better visit it and check some facts by yourself. If you wish I may meet you in Vladivostok- city I live. You will visit my home, get acquainted to my wife and sons...will see my job that gives me money... do it if you really are looking for truth.
 
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Vladimir Putin rescuing an endangered snow leopard, kindness quelling the cat's natural fear of man.
4 months ago that leopard died in car accident (((
2 months ago new road with tunnel under that forest was finished.
It is 200 km away from me

That's nice.

BTW------ You've been here for over 3 years and you have a very very limited post.
Are they charging you by the character? Just wondering.

Just checked your profile and every time every time I checked someone's profile-------- I became a follower. Not sure why it does that.
Long ago I came here as I was curious what Americans think about some political affairs. Wrote some posts...
After some time passed I recalled it and came here again.
Is it strange?
If you cannot prove that I am being paid for my posts than stop lying! I have static ip, check it and you will see where I am situated geographically. You may make a phone call to me if you wish (but my English is not good).
I haven't caught the idea - after visiting someone's profile you always become a follower...what is that?
 
So, you are an ethnic Russian, and were living in western Ukraine. Your story is similar to many ethnic Ukrainians who lived in Donbas (eastern Ukraine), but in REVERSE.
Under the Russian separatists, directed by Russian "volunteers" from Moscow & other parts of Russia, the Ukrainians living in their own homeland, in Donbas, and who did not want to separate, were also terrorized, killed, or forced to leave. A form of disgusting "ethnic cleansing". Sad!

I'm glad you & family survived & are doing OK now.
Ethnically I am Ukrainian, born by Ukrainians in Ukraine. But I refuse to call myself Ukrainian because I don't admit that such nation exists.

If we go back to 9th century ...
If one knows history he will realize that Russians and Ukrainians are one nation, ...

Back to the subject.
In Donbass not Russians came to fight but Ukrainians from west came to fight! Donbass' citizens fight against Kiev. Kiev shots civilians. Recently I posted here video of air strikes over center of Luhansk. And there are many other proves of Ukrainian aggression against civilians.
Of course a lot of refugees from Donbass went to west, I suppose equal quantity as those left for Russia. They run not basing on their political preferences but they chose where it would be easier for them to live - relatives, friends etc.
People living in Donbass are not supposed to be Ukrainians by nazis in Kiev and western Ukraine ...
If you do not think the Ukraine nation should exist, and that Ukrainians are really Russian, then you are obviously "Russian". Are you also a Putin troll paid by the Kremlin?

I know both Russian & Ukrainian immigrants here in USA that would not only disagree with your Russian nationalistic (nazi?) comments, but would label you a traitor if you really were born in Ukraine from ethnic Ukrainian parents. Almost like saying "Russians" are really "Ukrainians" (Kievan-Rus) because Kiev existed hundreds of years before Moscow!
And as stupid as saying Austria is really Germany, or Portugal is really Spain.
If someone agrees the policy of Putin's authorities and defends his points he is certainly a paid troll right?
I simply compare what kind of Russia we had in 90s and how it began to change after his coming.

I never told Ukrainian nation should not exist, I told that I don't admit it is a separate nation. Read my post #204.
Maybe it is a nation....100years old, just like kazakhs, azerbaijanians and some others created in the beginning of 20th century.
You blame me having nazist position but I never placed some nation above others which is the main idea of Nazism. And I live in Russia country of more than 200 nations living together for ages...so "Russian nationalism" in our authority's policy is fake created by your fake media.
Traitors are those your friends who left their motherland in hard years.
You don't "admit" that Ukraine is a separate nation from Russia? LOL!
That is Russian nationalism! Or, are you providing evidence for fake news?
:)
Sorry to remind you, but Ukraine has been a separate independent nation since 1991, and should have been completely independent 100+ years ago, but Russian nationalists imposed their military will to subjugate the Ukrainians, who have their own language & culture.
My Russian friends/dissidents would love to return to Russia, if it was safe for them. They don't want to get hurt or murdered, however; they despise Putin & those who like Stalin, communism, or the policies of Soviet Union.
 
So, you are an ethnic Russian, and were living in western Ukraine. Your story is similar to many ethnic Ukrainians who lived in Donbas (eastern Ukraine), but in REVERSE.
Under the Russian separatists, directed by Russian "volunteers" from Moscow & other parts of Russia, the Ukrainians living in their own homeland, in Donbas, and who did not want to separate, were also terrorized, killed, or forced to leave. A form of disgusting "ethnic cleansing". Sad!

I'm glad you & family survived & are doing OK now.
Ethnically I am Ukrainian, born by Ukrainians in Ukraine. But I refuse to call myself Ukrainian because I don't admit that such nation exists.

If we go back to 9th century ...
If one knows history he will realize that Russians and Ukrainians are one nation, ...

Back to the subject.
In Donbass not Russians came to fight but Ukrainians from west came to fight! Donbass' citizens fight against Kiev. Kiev shots civilians. Recently I posted here video of air strikes over center of Luhansk. And there are many other proves of Ukrainian aggression against civilians.
Of course a lot of refugees from Donbass went to west, I suppose equal quantity as those left for Russia. They run not basing on their political preferences but they chose where it would be easier for them to live - relatives, friends etc.
People living in Donbass are not supposed to be Ukrainians by nazis in Kiev and western Ukraine ...
If you do not think the Ukraine nation should exist, and that Ukrainians are really Russian, then you are obviously "Russian". Are you also a Putin troll paid by the Kremlin?

I know both Russian & Ukrainian immigrants here in USA that would not only disagree with your Russian nationalistic (nazi?) comments, but would label you a traitor if you really were born in Ukraine from ethnic Ukrainian parents. Almost like saying "Russians" are really "Ukrainians" (Kievan-Rus) because Kiev existed hundreds of years before Moscow!
And as stupid as saying Austria is really Germany, or Portugal is really Spain.
If someone agrees the policy of Putin's authorities and defends his points he is certainly a paid troll right?
I simply compare what kind of Russia we had in 90s and how it began to change after his coming.

I never told Ukrainian nation should not exist, I told that I don't admit it is a separate nation. Read my post #204.
Maybe it is a nation....100years old, just like kazakhs, azerbaijanians and some others created in the beginning of 20th century.
You blame me having nazist position but I never placed some nation above others which is the main idea of Nazism. And I live in Russia country of more than 200 nations living together for ages...so "Russian nationalism" in our authority's policy is fake created by your fake media.
Traitors are those your friends who left their motherland in hard years.
You don't "admit" that Ukraine is a separate nation from Russia? LOL!
That is Russian nationalism! Or, are you providing evidence for fake news?
:)
Sorry to remind you, but Ukraine has been a separate independent nation since 1991, and should have been completely independent 100+ years ago, but Russian nationalists imposed their military will to subjugate the Ukrainians, who have their own language & culture.
My Russian friends/dissidents would love to return to Russia, if it was safe for them. They don't want to get hurt or murdered, however; they despise Putin & those who like Stalin, communism, or the policies of Soviet Union.
You are clinic idiot.

Please tell me what is the difference between Russians and Ukrainians; what is Ukrainian culture and how it differs from Russian; when Ukrainian nation appeared.

as for own language... it is just middle dialect between Russian and Polish. In fact such languages as Russian, Belorussian, Ukrainian, Polish, Czech, Serbian, Bulgarian and some others are dialects of Slavic language. They have less difference between each other than German dialects have or Japanese, or Chinese... but nobody calls Bavarians a separate nation, or Okinawians, or Guangdonians...

As your so called friends/dissidents- they are a result of your sick dreams. No one is afraid now of visiting Russia if he is not criminal.
Come on, give me their phone numbers. I will make a call and will talk to them. Wish to hear by myself the reasons of their not coming here.
 
Shouldn't the Ukraine give its Lvov + Zakarpatie region back to Poland and Slovakia? If I was Putin, I would divide the European Union further, by making such a promise. Your opinion?
 
So, you are an ethnic Russian, and were living in western Ukraine. Your story is similar to many ethnic Ukrainians who lived in Donbas (eastern Ukraine), but in REVERSE.
Under the Russian separatists, directed by Russian "volunteers" from Moscow & other parts of Russia, the Ukrainians living in their own homeland, in Donbas, and who did not want to separate, were also terrorized, killed, or forced to leave. A form of disgusting "ethnic cleansing". Sad!

I'm glad you & family survived & are doing OK now.
Ethnically I am Ukrainian, born by Ukrainians in Ukraine. But I refuse to call myself Ukrainian because I don't admit that such nation exists.

If we go back to 9th century ...
If one knows history he will realize that Russians and Ukrainians are one nation, ...

Back to the subject.
In Donbass not Russians came to fight but Ukrainians from west came to fight! Donbass' citizens fight against Kiev. Kiev shots civilians. Recently I posted here video of air strikes over center of Luhansk. And there are many other proves of Ukrainian aggression against civilians.
Of course a lot of refugees from Donbass went to west, I suppose equal quantity as those left for Russia. They run not basing on their political preferences but they chose where it would be easier for them to live - relatives, friends etc.
People living in Donbass are not supposed to be Ukrainians by nazis in Kiev and western Ukraine ...
If you do not think the Ukraine nation should exist, and that Ukrainians are really Russian, then you are obviously "Russian". Are you also a Putin troll paid by the Kremlin?

I know both Russian & Ukrainian immigrants here in USA that would not only disagree with your Russian nationalistic (nazi?) comments, but would label you a traitor if you really were born in Ukraine from ethnic Ukrainian parents. Almost like saying "Russians" are really "Ukrainians" (Kievan-Rus) because Kiev existed hundreds of years before Moscow!
And as stupid as saying Austria is really Germany, or Portugal is really Spain.
If someone agrees the policy of Putin's authorities and defends his points he is certainly a paid troll right?
I simply compare what kind of Russia we had in 90s and how it began to change after his coming.

I never told Ukrainian nation should not exist, I told that I don't admit it is a separate nation. Read my post #204.
Maybe it is a nation....100years old, just like kazakhs, azerbaijanians and some others created in the beginning of 20th century.
You blame me having nazist position but I never placed some nation above others which is the main idea of Nazism. And I live in Russia country of more than 200 nations living together for ages...so "Russian nationalism" in our authority's policy is fake created by your fake media.
Traitors are those your friends who left their motherland in hard years.
You don't "admit" that Ukraine is a separate nation from Russia? LOL!
That is Russian nationalism! Or, are you providing evidence for fake news?
:)
Sorry to remind you, but Ukraine has been a separate independent nation since 1991, and should have been completely independent 100+ years ago, but Russian nationalists imposed their military will to subjugate the Ukrainians, who have their own language & culture.
My Russian friends/dissidents would love to return to Russia, if it was safe for them. They don't want to get hurt or murdered, however; they despise Putin & those who like Stalin, communism, or the policies of Soviet Union.
You are clinic idiot.
Please tell me what is the difference between Russians and Ukrainians ...
as for own language... it is just middle dialect between Russian and Polish. ...

No one is afraid now of visiting Russia if he is not criminal.
You must be an imbecile if you think similarities in language/culture means nations should be combined.
Should Poland be absorbed by the larger nation Russia too? Ukrainian is also similar to Polish.
Should Austria be absorbed by Germany?

Dissidents critical of Putin are afraid to return to Russia. If your brain is strained to understand why, then go ahead and contact Kasparov, or Nemtsov. Maybe not Nemtsov (physicist & Russian statesman), since he is DEAD, like journalists who were critical of Putin.
 

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