Mr Natural
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If all men are created equal, that is final.
The creation process might be equal, but after that, it's pretty much a crapshoot.
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If all men are created equal, that is final.
I try to understand where the left is coming from - I really do. But this nonsense about "progressing" is just maddening. First of all, they never say what they want to progress TO. What is progress for them? Communism? Socialism? Nazism?
In their attempt to "progress", they are now attacking the US Constitution. Time magazine (ie Obama magazine) just wrote a huge article about how the Constitution is no longer relevant. The US Constitution is the world's only PERFECT document. It's perfect because it guaranteed our freedoms. Because it guaranteed it would keep government SMALL and out of our lives. And most of all, because it recognized it's own imperfections and built in a process to edit it when necessary. How exactly do you "progress" past perfection - I guess that's why progressives won't define what they are trying to progress to? Because answering with Communism, Socialism, or Nazism would have a negative effect on their "progress".
If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance - no "progress" can be made beyond these propositions!!!!
The US Constitution is the world's only PERFECT document. It's perfect because it guaranteed our freedoms.
It looks pretty clear to me. Those who call themselves progressives are not paying attention to the Constitution which protects all of us. Although they are not the only groups who do that, they certainly are currently involving themselves in some sort of idiotic movement to marginalize the Constitution, then the next step is easier.I try to understand where the left is coming from - I really do. But this nonsense about "progressing" is just maddening. First of all, they never say what they want to progress TO. What is progress for them? Communism? Socialism? Nazism?
In their attempt to "progress", they are now attacking the US Constitution. Time magazine (ie Obama magazine) just wrote a huge article about how the Constitution is no longer relevant. The US Constitution is the world's only PERFECT document. It's perfect because it guaranteed our freedoms. Because it guaranteed it would keep government SMALL and out of our lives. And most of all, because it recognized it's own imperfections and built in a process to edit it when necessary. How exactly do you "progress" past perfection - I guess that's why progressives won't define what they are trying to progress to? Because answering with Communism, Socialism, or Nazism would have a negative effect on their "progress".
If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance - no "progress" can be made beyond these propositions!!!!
what on earth are you babbling about?
I try to understand where the left is coming from - I really do. But this nonsense about "progressing" is just maddening. First of all, they never say what they want to progress TO. What is progress for them? Communism? Socialism? Nazism?
I try to understand where the left is coming from - I really do. But this nonsense about "progressing" is just maddening. First of all, they never say what they want to progress TO. What is progress for them? Communism? Socialism? Nazism?
In contrast to conservatives, progressives simply believe we can make things better. More specifically, in the current context, they believe we can use government to make things better. I don't think either of those views is inherently wrong. In fact, I find them generally more hopefully and promising that the conservative urge to maintain the status quo.
My issue with progressives is their current predilection for disregarding individual freedom as an inconvenience. They seem to have forgotten the most important aspect of liberalism (i.e. 'liberty').
Really? Then how is it that I am on the right and pro-choice and not against gay marriage?I try to understand where the left is coming from - I really do. But this nonsense about "progressing" is just maddening. First of all, they never say what they want to progress TO. What is progress for them? Communism? Socialism? Nazism?
In contrast to conservatives, progressives simply believe we can make things better. More specifically, in the current context, they believe we can use government to make things better. I don't think either of those views is inherently wrong. In fact, I find them generally more hopefully and promising that the conservative urge to maintain the status quo.
My issue with progressives is their current predilection for disregarding individual freedom as an inconvenience. They seem to have forgotten the most important aspect of liberalism (i.e. 'liberty').
the right loves "individual freedoms" as long as they don't include women exercising dominion over their own bodies... or gays marrying... or the rights of the accused being protected... and so on and so on and shoobie doobie doobie. *shrug*
How can the right go arround whorshiping the constitution and in the same breath speak of their massive hate for government?
. Thus the generalization fail.You are not the right are you.
you are just one member.
the right loves "individual freedoms" as long as they don't include women exercising dominion over their own bodies... or gays marrying... or the rights of the accused being protected... or the choice of someone braindead to be allowed to be let go...and so on and so on and shoobie doobie doobie. *shrug*
I try to understand where the left is coming from - I really do. But this nonsense about "progressing" is just maddening. First of all, they never say what they want to progress TO. What is progress for them? Communism? Socialism? Nazism?
In their attempt to "progress", they are now attacking the US Constitution. Time magazine (ie Obama magazine) just wrote a huge article about how the Constitution is no longer relevant. The US Constitution is the world's only PERFECT document. It's perfect because it guaranteed our freedoms. Because it guaranteed it would keep government SMALL and out of our lives. And most of all, because it recognized it's own imperfections and built in a process to edit it when necessary. How exactly do you "progress" past perfection - I guess that's why progressives won't define what they are trying to progress to? Because answering with Communism, Socialism, or Nazism would have a negative effect on their "progress".
If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance - no "progress" can be made beyond these propositions!!!!
I wonder how many slaves would have agreed with it's perfection?
How can the right go arround whorshiping the constitution and in the same breath speak of their massive hate for government?
I try to understand where the left is coming from - I really do. But this nonsense about "progressing" is just maddening. First of all, they never say what they want to progress TO. What is progress for them? Communism? Socialism? Nazism?
In their attempt to "progress", they are now attacking the US Constitution. Time magazine (ie Obama magazine) just wrote a huge article about how the Constitution is no longer relevant. The US Constitution is the world's only PERFECT document. It's perfect because it guaranteed our freedoms. Because it guaranteed it would keep government SMALL and out of our lives. And most of all, because it recognized it's own imperfections and built in a process to edit it when necessary. How exactly do you "progress" past perfection - I guess that's why progressives won't define what they are trying to progress to? Because answering with Communism, Socialism, or Nazism would have a negative effect on their "progress".
If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance - no "progress" can be made beyond these propositions!!!!
I try to understand where the left is coming from - I really do. But this nonsense about "progressing" is just maddening. First of all, they never say what they want to progress TO. What is progress for them? Communism? Socialism? Nazism?
In contrast to conservatives, progressives simply believe we can make things better. More specifically, in the current context, they believe we can use government to make things better. I don't think either of those views is inherently wrong. In fact, I find them generally more hopefully and promising that the conservative urge to maintain the status quo.
My issue with progressives is their current predilection for disregarding individual freedom as an inconvenience. They seem to have forgotten the most important aspect of liberalism (i.e.liberty).
How can the right go arround whorshiping the constitution and in the same breath speak of their massive hate for government?
I'm sorry - where exactly does it say in the US Constitution that you must "love" government? Furthermore, I would LOVE my government if it actually adhered to the Constitution! God, I would WORSHIP my government if it adhered to the US Constitution. The federal government was intended to be the SMALLEST form of government, and is granted 18 SPECIFIC enumerated powers. Those powers do NOT include things like The Department of Education (completely unconstitutional), Social Security (completely unconstitutional), Welfare (completely unconstitutional), Obamacare (completely unconstitutional), Department of Agriculture (completely unconstitutional)... and about 8,000 more. Should I go on? When the nightmare that is progressivsim reverses course on this monstrosity of a federal government and forces it to adhere to the law of the land (which was specifically designed to limit its power in order to maximize OUR power), I will absolutely LOVE my government. Until that time, their illegal actions and blatant disregard for the Constitution earns them the hate they deserve.
If all men are created equal, that is final.
The creation process might be equal, but after that, it's pretty much a crapshoot.
I try to understand where the left is coming from - I really do. But this nonsense about "progressing" is just maddening. First of all, they never say what they want to progress TO. What is progress for them? Communism? Socialism? Nazism?
In contrast to conservatives, progressives simply believe we can make things better. More specifically, in the current context, they believe we can use government to make things better. I don't think either of those views is inherently wrong. In fact, I find them generally more hopefully and promising that the conservative urge to maintain the status quo.
My issue with progressives is their current predilection for disregarding individual freedom as an inconvenience. They seem to have forgotten the most important aspect of liberalism (i.e. 'liberty').
the right loves "individual freedoms" as long as they don't include women exercising dominion over their own bodies... or gays marrying... or the rights of the accused being protected... or the choice of someone braindead to be allowed to be let go...and so on and so on and shoobie doobie doobie. *shrug*