What is the winning strategy in 2018 and beyond?

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What is the winning strategy in 2018 and beyond?

  1. 1. More regulation and higher taxes on the rich

  2. 2. Less regulation and lower taxes for taxpayers

  3. 3. Open borders and/or less law enforcement

  4. 4. Secure borders/more law enforcement

  5. 5. America gets along with Europe and is more like Europe

  6. 6. America insists on fair deals for America

  7. 7. More people in all groups working

  8. 8. More 'free' social services

  9. 9. Courts that rule on what the law 'should be'

  10. 10. Courts that rule on what the law is

  11. 11. Government that decides what the law will be

  12. 12. Government that represents what the people want

  13. 13. Return to the social and economic policies of the Obama years

  14. 14. Stay the current course

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  1. Foxfyre
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    The poll is structured to allow multiple choice and you can change your vote if you have a change of heart.

    It is said that the 2018 election may determine the course of this country for a very long time to come, probably for the rest of our lifetimes.

    We are currently seeing numbers in the economy and in American society that we have not seen for a very long time:

    --Record or near record low unemployment in almost all categories: black/white/Hispanic/Asian etc., high school diploma or less, women, youth, etc etc etc

    --Individual and family incomes are rising again after steady decline in the Obama years and to some extent in the Bush43 years. That is mostly due to tax reform, removal of unnecessary regulation, and a pro-business approach resulting in more honest low unemployment numbers and business confidence and prosperity enabling employers to pass on higher profits to their employees via increased wages, bonuses, benefits etc.

    --We are approaching the reality of the people being in charge of their government again via the ballot box instead of unelected, unaccountable courts and unelected, unaccountable faceless bureaucrats dictating what the law will be and how we are required to live our lives.

    --We are seeing support for securing the border and enforcing necessary laws to protect and empower those in the country legally.

    --We are seeing significantly less dependence on social services and more empowerment of people to choose and pursue their own destinies on their own initiatives.

    --And for the first time in a long time we are seeing government policies that produce positive results initiated instead of what is 'politically correct' or what 'looks good' ideologically. And if Plan A doesn't produce the desired results, we are going to Plan B or C or whatever does produce the desired results instead of being stuck in a feckless status quo.

    So where do you stand? Stay the course we are on keeping whatever policies are working? Or return to the policies of the previous Administration? Obviously a poll cannot include every possible issue or ideological stance, but how members respond to the options in the limited posted poll and vote in November and beyond will determine the direction the country will go.
     
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    Definitely not 12.

    Just because the people want free shit doesn't mean we should elect a government to take shit from other people.
     
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    I would agree though #13 probably would be seen as most as supporting taking stuff from some in order to give to others. :)

    But realistically, the Founders wrote a Constitution for the purpose of allowing the people to govern themselves via the ballot box--the people would elect representatives who would represent THEM and not the whims and wants of others in government.

    And the President was intended to be the executive of the nation who carries out the will of the people that was supposed to be expressed by their elected representatives.

    All that is turned on its head when the people's elected representatives forget all about the general welfare of those they represent once they get to Washington.
     
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    I would argue than some of them, more than half possibly are working towards the detriment of who they represent. The democrook party is eaten up with globalist sociopaths and the republicrats want to join their parties and pretend to be the opposition. I'd like to repeal the 17th Amendment and roll back federal authority across the board.
     
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    The Republican permanent political class is little better in my estimation. They just throw their constituencies somewhat different bones because they represent a somewhat different group but mostly they work just as hard as the Democrats do to retain a status quo that greatly benefits them personally and does little to nothing to actually fix the problems we have. I think they resent a President who is actually returning power to the people just as much as the Democrats do. The people having the power is the last thing any of them want.
     
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    Interesting. Lots of views but no takers in the discussion. Is that significant? :)

    Just as we did in 2016, I am hearing Democrat after Democrat expressing the same themes of stop President Trump dead in his tracks along with achieving more income equality along with a lot of free stuff including 'free' government provided healthcare, making it easier and less restrictive to vote everywhere, amnesty for illegals, etc.

    I am hearing the same mantras of invest in health care, invest in education, invest in our youth, invest in clean energy, etc. etc. etc. without being at all specific about what that actually is and/or what the results of such investment will look like and/or how much such investment will cost.

    Several are throwing in some new wrinkles:

    --kneeling during the National Anthem and presentation of the flag is the appropriate free speech way to protest police brutality especially against minorities while silencing conservative voices or politically incorrect opinion everywhere, especially on college campuses, is the thing to do.

    --free college education

    --abolish ICE

    --open borders

    --limit corporate compensation for executives

    --themes of decriminalizing more offenses that are sometimes taken to the extreme of closing the jails and prisons.

    And of course there is describing half of American citizens as racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic white supremacists clinging to their religion and guns, white women are told how to vote by their husbands and bosses, minority conservatives are not a credit to their race or are sell outs or Uncle Toms, basket of deplorables, and smelly Walmart shoppers. (I think they never read Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People.)

    Is that a winning strategy? Or are they simply trusting the non-stop media assault trashing President Trump will inspire all the uninformed people to show up at the polls to vote Democrat this year?
     
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    There is only one strategy in play -- pander to enough disgruntled identity groups in such a way that you convince them the other guy is the cause of all their ills.
     
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    Your poll proves this is not a serious thread
     
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    How does it prove it? It specifies the campaign initiatives expressed by Republicans and Democrats that I've been listening to.
     
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    I disagree. I think President Trump and the Republicans still worthy of that name are giving strong specifics of what has been accomplished so far and what remains necessary to do:

    --keep the tax reform and improve on it
    --secure the border and make it very unattractive to break our immigration laws
    --free trade that is fair trade on the part of all parties
    --remove unnecessary and nonproductive regulation
    --return as much power to the states and the people as possible
    --peace through strength
     

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