What Is The Biggest Drawback Of Atheism?

[ding]

Actually you can’t but go ahead and try.

No. I don’t need to do for you what you can and should do for yourself.

Besides we both know there is no convincing your type.

So you have NO EVIDENCE Your god is doing anything

NO EVIDENCE it's not A different god..

and NO EVIDENCE I'M NOT GOD!

LOFL

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Tons of evidence. Besides the material world, the physical, biological and moral laws of nature there’s also the fact that the benefits of faith far outweigh the benefits of atheism. So it is illogical to be an atheist.

 

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And you are still wrong about that too.

Your existence is proof.

EMPTY CLAIM

PROOF?

Proof of WHICH GOD?

You can't answer you 12 IQ Lunatic.

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There are many perceptions of God but there is only one God. This should be self evident.

 

[ding]

No. I don’t accept Your definition.
Faith as it pertains to anything, including religion, is having complete trust in something or someone.
Look it up.

I did "look it up" and cited to you, you MORON.

Google - definition faith
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definition faith - Google Search

faith
/fāTH/
noun

1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
   "this restores one's faith in politicians"
   
   2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

You are TOO STUPID to debate.

Dunning effect.

SO I REFUTED you 100% ON DEFINITION of 'Faith' and "LOOKING IT UP."

You DISHONESTLY HAVE NO Answer.

LYING for JESUS

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No you didn’t. Faith is having complete trust. I don’t place complete trust without good reason.

The evidence for God is all around you. All you have to do is consider it.

 

[james bond]

And one can refute you, by definition of 'faith' as

firm belief in something for which there is no proof.

Definition of FAITH

Atheists have no proof there isn't a God while Kalam's Cosmological Argument says different.

Moreover, you just resort to ad hominem attacks in every post, so you end up losing.

So again KING ASSHOLE
You musta missed it.

You can't prove I'm not god. (whatever the **** that is)
YAWN!
Kalam's Cosmo argument or toilet bowl?

and btw Low IQ cumstain, there are HUNDREDS of [contradictory] 'gods', and even if one stepped in it.
At Least 75% of Believers are necessarily wrong.

And you'll keep getting the ad homs (but only with content)
because you're the primo Disingenuous LIAR for JESUS here.


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If Kalam doesn't do it for you, then there is the ontological argument and Descartes proofs of God's existence. The latter is here which will make your puny brain explode so I leave it for the non-internet atheists -- Descartes’ Ontological Argument (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy).

You aren't the God of the Bible. You are a lowbrow internet atheist. You behave like a stupid bad KING ASSHOLE while I am a smart good KING ASSHOLE. According to God and his holiness, all sins are equal, but we find that the punishments are geared to fit the crime. There is a bigger punishment for being a stupid bad KA. That should be the evidence for you not being God.

How can I be a liar when I use the Bible theory to combat evolution and the Bible for religious guidance? What do you have for guidance? The atheists guidebook to go to h*ll in a handbasket?

 

[james bond]

No, there is no evidence for some claimed afterlife. There is no evidence for consciousness after death.

There Is no “belief in Atheism”. Humans did not come from monkeys.

None of your hysterical outbursts make any sense.

Of course, there is evidence for an afterlife. Neurologists have foudn the consciousness lives on after death. It's your life spirit or force. It has been in culture since the beginning of time. We had, "May the Force be with you" in Star Wars, for example. We also have near-death experiences which have some common experiences after death.

As for the rest, they are just your assertions and opinions. Meh. And I still think the hysterics are from you. Maybe you should take a break from the board to get refresh your batteries and stop spiraling down into your hysterical and mad kingdom of biased, nonsensical complaints and rants.

 

[G.T.]

And one can refute you, by definition of 'faith' as

firm belief in something for which there is no proof.

Definition of FAITH

Atheists have no proof there isn't a God while Kalam's Cosmological Argument says different.

Moreover, you just resort to ad hominem attacks in every post, so you end up losing.

So again KING ASSHOLE
You musta missed it.

You can't prove I'm not god. (whatever the **** that is)
YAWN!
Kalam's Cosmo argument or toilet bowl?

and btw Low IQ cumstain, there are HUNDREDS of [contradictory] 'gods', and even if one stepped in it.
At Least 75% of Believers are necessarily wrong.

And you'll keep getting the ad homs (but only with content)
because you're the primo Disingenuous LIAR for JESUS here.


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If Kalam doesn't do it for you, then there is the ontological argument and Descartes proofs of God's existence. The latter is here which will make your puny brain explode so I leave it for the non-internet atheists -- Descartes’ Ontological Argument (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy).

You aren't the God of the Bible. You are a lowbrow internet atheist. You behave like a stupid bad KING ASSHOLE while I am a smart good KING ASSHOLE. According to God and his holiness, all sins are equal, but we find that the punishments are geared to fit the crime. There is a bigger punishment for being a stupid bad KA. That should be the evidence for you not being God.

How can I be a liar when I use the Bible theory to combat evolution and the Bible for religious guidance? What do you have for guidance? The atheists guidebook to go to h*ll in a handbasket?

The Kalam rests on assertions, thats why it fails and the descartes link you just posted also includes that arguments' standard objections...right in your link.

The fact that there are objections make these things inadequate in terms of PROOF, it makes them mere postulation and it's <for whatever the fuck reason> what The theists using them don't or pretend not to understand.

Watch William Lane Craig debate actual physicists...its awesome, because the science he was misapplying to his arguments is corrected...

he concedes...


and then uses it again in later arguments.

Thata called being a charlatan, as are many theological philosophers...if Id even call them that.

 

[Hollie]

No, there is no evidence for some claimed afterlife. There is no evidence for consciousness after death.

There Is no “belief in Atheism”. Humans did not come from monkeys.

None of your hysterical outbursts make any sense.

Of course, there is evidence for an afterlife. Neurologists have foudn the consciousness lives on after death. It's your life spirit or force. It has been in culture since the beginning of time. We had, "May the Force be with you" in Star Wars, for example. We also have near-death experiences which have some common experiences after death.

As for the rest, they are just your assertions and opinions. Meh. And I still think the hysterics are from you. Maybe you should take a break from the board to get refresh your batteries and stop spiraling down into your hysterical and mad kingdom of biased, nonsensical complaints and rants.

No. Your "... because I say so" claim is not evidence of an afterlife.

Please provide the data that shows Neurologists have found a life spirit or force after death.

I should advise that "May the Force be With You" is from a Hollywood movie. I should advise that getting your science education from Hollywood movies is silly.

These rants of yours, completely absent substantiation are just tedious.

 

[james bond]

An experience influenced by the expectation of an afterlife

Nobody met St Peter

That's wrong. Howard Storm was an avowed atheist. I think he was pretty much a lifelong atheist. He had a NDE at 38. I think you said one time that you went to Catholic school. Maybe you didn't believe even while in Catholic school. Did it make you rebel? Be a bad kid? Sorry, my memory isn't that great and I've forgotten if that was when you became one.

I guess you mean St. Peter and the gates of heaven. I think that's a stereotype, but have heard of it from Catholic school and him holding the keys. It is part of Catholicism. The gates of heaven are not pearly either.

 

[james bond]

The Kalam rests on assertions, thats why it fails and the descartes link you just posted also includes that arguments' standard objections...right in your link.

Which statement is an assertion? For the longest time, there was no beginning with an eternal universe.

What about what evos claim as singularity as a point of infinite temperature and infinite density prior to the big bang. That doesn't even sound like assertion, but something that violates the laws of physics.

The fact that there are objections make these things inadequate in terms of PROOF, it makes them mere postulation and it's <for whatever the fuck reason> what The theists using them don't or pretend not to understand.

Objections are based on worldview. It still does not defeat the argument. It is sound. As for the rest, they are YOUR assertions.

Watch William Lane Craig debate actual physicists...its awesome, because the science he was misapplying to his arguments is corrected...

 

[james bond]

No. Your "... because I say so" claim is not evidence of an afterlife.

Where did I say that?

Please provide the data that shows Neurologists have found a life spirit or force after death.

You misquote me and change what I said. I got the evidence, but why should I provide it when you don't answer my questions nor provide evidence. You only get hysterical. I'm afraid this will happen again.

I should advise that "May the Force be With You" is from a Hollywood movie. I should advise that getting your science education from Hollywood movies is silly.

More quote mining. I didn't say I did. You're not much fun if you can't learn things from movies.

These rants of yours, completely absent substantiation are just tedious.

I was the one who took a break from the board, remember? You're the one who can't even tell when they are being hysterical and ranting .




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[Hollie]

No. Your "... because I say so" claim is not evidence of an afterlife.

Where did I say that?

Please provide the data that shows Neurologists have found a life spirit or force after death.

You misquote me and change what I said. I got the evidence, but why should I provide it when you don't answer my questions nor provide evidence. You only get hysterical. I'm afraid this will happen again.

I should advise that "May the Force be With You" is from a Hollywood movie. I should advise that getting your science education from Hollywood movies is silly.

More quote mining. I didn't say I did. You're not much fun if you can't learn things from movies.

These rants of yours, completely absent substantiation are just tedious.

I was the one who took a break from the board, remember? You're the one who can't even tell when they are being hysterical and ranting . .

So then. We can agree that your claim about Neurologists have found a life spirit or force after death is not supportable.

Why make such unsupported claims on a public message board when you know such nonsense will be challenged?

 

[BreezeWood]

That's christobabble, and I care no more about it that the babbling of any religion.

No, it's in the Bible which we partly discussed. It is like God's autobiography written by various writers over 1500 years. It was found on clay tablets and then re-written on various manuscripts by hand. What is written on it was read and classified as non-fiction by the people of those times. There were the believers and atheists during those times, too. They knew the universe, Earth, and everything it existed and tried to figure out how nature worked. However, they could not explain their origins except this book did. We also had classical Greek thinking and they believed in gods, but their stories were contradicted. None of the stories in the Bible have been shown false throughout human history. Otherwise, we would not be here discussing it. Thus, you are wrong thinking it as "christobabble." There is no evidence to contradict what is written. Atheists started to use science the Greeks and other thinkers came up with in those ancient times, but they didn't find contradictions. They did think of other ways of how everything originated. Egyptians started to calculate the flow of the Nile and how long it took to get to places along it.

Just because you are ignorant does not make for a valid argument.

I'm going to ignore the rest because it degrades into negativity. I already started my weekend and don't want boring atheist complaints. Anyway, we can pick this up Monday if you're interested. Otherwise, just move on to some other poster.

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It was found on clay tablets and then re-written on various manuscripts by hand.

- re-written ... .

where are the clay tablets bond - to corroborate what was (re-written) forged(ery) from them, oh you can't find the originals ... how surprising - howabout etched in stone, what they did for prosperity - nothing at all for your bible - - are they being kept safe with your 10 commandment tablets. how about the pieces after dumbass shattered them - there seems to be something missing in you worldview - originality, authenticity. is halloween, fast approaching your favorite holiday ...

It's not that hard to discover history of the Bible from clay tables to Canon -- From Clay Tablets to Canon: The Story of the Formation of Scripture | Religious Studies Center

In fact, ding discussed the manuscripts already. You weren't paying attention.

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there are no original clay tablets for the christian religion -


In the codex we see the culmination of the process of textualization that would result in the concept of creating the Bible.

We must admit that we do not know the exact process of how the Savior’s words arrived in the textual form we now have. At the same time, we can readily affirm that He pronounced divine teachings and that He did so in an age when respect was concurrently given to the spoken word and written texts.


there are many reasons there does not exist texts for the christian religion ... primarily because it never existed till they made it up in the 4th century,

In fact, ding discussed the manuscripts already. You weren't paying attention.

your own link proves you are both lying - what everyone already knows.

 

[abu afak]

So NO ONE has any proof, or even evidence of a god.
Zero.
And they can't even tell which/WITCH 'god' is THE god, because at least 75% of them are wrong even if one clown group is correct.

If they Did have any real evidence, there would be a Nobel Prize, and joy among that particular gods followers, and Tens of millions of Suicides among all the wrong believers.

Yes I can see it now. The stars all line up overhead one night and spell the word "ALLAH" in Arabic.
Millions of others in the background are Koranic text.

The people who are arguing for god here, a different god, go into mass depression, their world shattered.
Whole communities/states/countries go into shock.
Churches abandoned.
Pope gets a day job.
Vatican gets a Trump Hotel and Casino, and becomes the Euro Atlantic City with Monaco as it's rival.

LOFL.

 

[ding]

So NO ONE has any proof, or even evidence of a god.
Zero.
And they can't even tell which/WITCH 'god' is THE god, because at least 75% of them are wrong even if one clown group is correct.

If they Did have any real evidence, there would be a Nobel Prize, and joy among that particular gods followers, and Tens of millions of Suicides among all the wrong believers.

Yes I can see it now. The stars all line up overhead one night and spell the word "ALLAH" in Arabic.
Millions of others in the background are Koranic text.

The people who are arguing for god here, a different god, go into mass depression, their world shattered.
Whole communities/states/countries go into shock.
Churches abandoned.
Pope gets a day job.
Vatican gets a Trump Hotel and Casino, and becomes the Euro Atlantic City with Monaco as it's rival.

LOFL.

Creation is the evidence you are looking for.

 

[james bond]

So then. We can agree that your claim about Neurologists have found a life spirit or force after death is not supportable.

Why make such unsupported claims on a public message board when you know such nonsense will be challenged?

I just said I have the evidence. Moreover, you know that the life spirit or the force is not controlled by humans; it is controlled by God. I already stated that Dr. Louis Pasterur demonstrated that only life begats life. Thus, no spontaneous generation and no abiogenesis. However, your atheist worldview won't let you accept that finding based on the scientific method.

I think this is why you are so hysterical.

 

[james bond]

your own link proves you are both lying - what everyone already knows.

Still no link. I provided what you asked for, but you didn't provide your link. I guess that means I win and you get the door. My size 12 shoes will boot you out.

 

[james bond]

So NO ONE has any proof, or even evidence of a god..

It was given to you already, but you missed it, as usual , due to being an internet atheist.

Yes I can see it now. The stars all line up overhead one night and spell the word "ALLAH" in Arabic.
Millions of others in the background are Koranic text.

The people who are arguing for god here, a different god, go into mass depression, their world shattered.
Whole communities/states/countries go into shock.
Churches abandoned.
Pope gets a day job.
Vatican gets a Trump Hotel and Casino, and becomes the Euro Atlantic City with Monaco as it's rival.

LOFL.

The stars lining up to spell, "ALLAH" in Arabic isn't good enough. Every atheist from the past, present, and future must believe for it to be valid. God has already promised every eye will see when that day comes and thus, everything will be settled right here on Earth one day.



ETA: I used to think that I would laugh like this when that day came, but now think it will be too incredulous to do anything, but thank the Lord. I'll probably fall down on my face bowing to the Lord.

 

[rightwinger]

So then. We can agree that your claim about Neurologists have found a life spirit or force after death is not supportable.

Why make such unsupported claims on a public message board when you know such nonsense will be challenged?

I just said I have the evidence. Moreover, you know that the life spirit or the force is not controlled by humans; it is controlled by God. I already stated that Dr. Louis Pasterur demonstrated that only life begats life. Thus, no spontaneous generation and no abiogenesis. However, your atheist worldview won't let you accept that finding based on the scientific method.

I think this is why you are so hysterical.

Everyone knows the force is not controlled by humans
You have to be a Jedi

 

[james bond]

Everyone knows the force is not controlled by humans
You have to be a Jedi

That's the life spirit force. If you're talking about the metaphoric force, then just who do you think the Jedi are? And you are a sith.

 

[BreezeWood]

your own link proves you are both lying - what everyone already knows.

Still no link. I provided what you asked for, but you didn't provide your link. I guess that means I win and you get the door. My size 12 shoes will boot you out.

the quotes are from your link, liar -

In the codex we see the culmination of the process of textualization that would result in the concept of creating the Bible.

We must admit that we do not know the exact process of how the Savior’s words arrived in the textual form we now have. At the same time, we can readily affirm that He pronounced divine teachings and that He did so in an age when respect was concurrently given to the spoken word and written texts.

your own link proves you are both lying - what everyone already knows.

there are no original copies from the 1st century for your false messiah christianity religion as it was entirely madeup during the extent of the entire 4th century ...