What is more important: keeping the government running or funding obamacare?

[NYcarbineer]

wow....what a hissy fit.

liberals are about ENDING ALL GOVERNMENT in order to save one program that is not even implemented yet

fuck off. lol

You voted in your own poll that it is more important to keep the government running.

Therefore, you cannot support the Republicans putting a specific partisan condition on keeping the government running,

because by doing so they are saying they are willing to keep the government from running, they are willing to shut down the government,

if their condition isn't met.

The act of putting conditions on whether or not the government will be shut down is taking the position that keeping the government running is not the more important of the two.

nope, you and the dems are putting the condition on keeping the government running. you can lie all day, but you can't turn lies into truth.

Will the Republicans vote to fund the government without the condition of defunding Obamacare?

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's not an either..or..

ObamaCare is the law.

And a part of the government.

nope...it can be defunded and this will be constitutional

you can lie all day, but it doesn't change the fact you're still lying

If it can be defunded, why doesn't Congress just go ahead and defund it?

 

[NYcarbineer]

wow....what a hissy fit.

liberals are about ENDING ALL GOVERNMENT in order to save one program that is not even implemented yet

fuck off. lol

You voted in your own poll that it is more important to keep the government running.

Therefore, you cannot support the Republicans putting a specific partisan condition on keeping the government running,

because by doing so they are saying they are willing to keep the government from running, they are willing to shut down the government,

if their condition isn't met.

The act of putting conditions on whether or not the government will be shut down is taking the position that keeping the government running is not the more important of the two.

Good job on the thread...Game, set, match, Carbiner!

And the icing on the cake is that Yurt is still here flailing away.

 

[BreezeWood]

What is more important: keeping the government running or funding obamacare?

assuming the hysteria over government shutdown would actually occur....

Health Care Reform is the means to "keep the gov't running."

without an alternative to ACA the Republicans are doing neither.

you're actually claiming that if obamacare is defunded, then the government will not run...

your question is "keeping the government running".


Health Care Reform is the means to "keep the gov't running."

 

[candycorn]

You voted in your own poll that it is more important to keep the government running.

Therefore, you cannot support the Republicans putting a specific partisan condition on keeping the government running,

because by doing so they are saying they are willing to keep the government from running, they are willing to shut down the government,

if their condition isn't met.

The act of putting conditions on whether or not the government will be shut down is taking the position that keeping the government running is not the more important of the two.

Good job on the thread...Game, set, match, Carbiner!

And the icing on the cake is that Yurt is still here flailing away.

Yup.

 

[Yurt]

You voted in your own poll that it is more important to keep the government running.

Therefore, you cannot support the Republicans putting a specific partisan condition on keeping the government running,

because by doing so they are saying they are willing to keep the government from running, they are willing to shut down the government,

if their condition isn't met.

The act of putting conditions on whether or not the government will be shut down is taking the position that keeping the government running is not the more important of the two.

nope, you and the dems are putting the condition on keeping the government running. you can lie all day, but you can't turn lies into truth.

Will the Republicans vote to fund the government without the condition of defunding Obamacare?

will the democrats vote to fund the government without funding obamacare?

 

[Yurt]

It's not an either..or..

ObamaCare is the law.

And a part of the government.

nope...it can be defunded and this will be constitutional

you can lie all day, but it doesn't change the fact you're still lying

If it can be defunded, why doesn't Congress just go ahead and defund it?

the bill passed the house idiot. do you not know how a bill becomes law?

 

[Yurt]

Health Care Reform is the means to "keep the gov't running."

without an alternative to ACA the Republicans are doing neither.

you're actually claiming that if obamacare is defunded, then the government will not run...

your question is "keeping the government running".


Health Care Reform is the means to "keep the gov't running."

so how has the government run all these years?

 

[hortysir]

Is it more important to keep the government running or to keep the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution?

Now tell me the framing of the OP's question isn't retarded.

Hyperbole aside, the ACA is a mere shadow of what was originally proposed and passed.
All by the whimsical stroke of a king-like POTUS that does NOT have the power to amend a legitimately passed LAW.

 

[NYcarbineer]

nope...it can be defunded and this will be constitutional

you can lie all day, but it doesn't change the fact you're still lying

If it can be defunded, why doesn't Congress just go ahead and defund it?

the bill passed the house idiot. do you not know how a bill becomes law?

Like Pat Toomey said yesterday, the House has to understand that when you only control 1 of the three parts of the government,

you don't control the government.

 

[NYcarbineer]

19% support for shutting down the government over Obamacare, according to polls.

That should answer the OP's question.

 

[hortysir]

19% support for shutting down the government over Obamacare, according to polls.

That should answer the OP's question.

The ACA is more important to you than SS, MC, the Military and everything else in the government?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

i think should all just loose their jobs for playing with Americas future like this .

Replace them with Mexicans.

 

[hortysir]

i think should all just loose their jobs for playing with Americas future like this .

Vote 'em out, then

But you won't.
You don't think anything is wrong with YOUR congress-critter

 

[Yurt]

19% support for shutting down the government over Obamacare, according to polls.

That should answer the OP's question.

so we now run the country by polls?

 

[Yurt]

If it can be defunded, why doesn't Congress just go ahead and defund it?

the bill passed the house idiot. do you not know how a bill becomes law?

Like Pat Toomey said yesterday, the House has to understand that when you only control 1 of the three parts of the government,

you don't control the government.

checks and balance

checks and balance

learn it, embrace it, don't like it, move

 

[Nyvin]

Actually the democrats are happy to pass the house bill in the senate....Just with the amendment to fund the ACA in it

It's the Republicans who are saying "defund Obamacare or we shut down the government!" This will be seen when the house bill PASSES in the senate and is contested in the house since it funds ACA.

Check out any polls, the public sees what the GOP is doing. If the senate agrees to the house bill, just with an amendment to fund ACA, then it's the GOP holding the usa hostage.

checks and balance

checks and balance

learn it, embrace it, don't like it, move

Yes, exactly!! The house GOP's CR bill will be passed, just the defunding ACA won't be...the house doesn't get everything it wants, the senate doesn't get everything it wants, compromise!

 

[Yurt]

since NYC wants to govern via polls....the poll for this thread is 16-4 in favor of funding the government and defunding obamacare

 

[Yurt]

Actually the democrats are happy to pass the house bill in the senate....Just with the amendment to fund the ACA in it

It's the Republicans who are saying "defund Obamacare or we shut down the government!" This will be seen when the house bill PASSES in the senate and is contested in the house since it funds ACA.

Check out any polls, the public sees what the GOP is doing. If the senate agrees to the house bill, just with an amendment to fund ACA, then it's the GOP holding the usa hostage.

so you libs want to hold all other spending hostage simply because you're pouting about one little program

 

[Nyvin]

Actually the democrats are happy to pass the house bill in the senate....Just with the amendment to fund the ACA in it

It's the Republicans who are saying "defund Obamacare or we shut down the government!" This will be seen when the house bill PASSES in the senate and is contested in the house since it funds ACA.

Check out any polls, the public sees what the GOP is doing. If the senate agrees to the house bill, just with an amendment to fund ACA, then it's the GOP holding the usa hostage.

so you libs want to hold all other spending hostage simply because you're pouting about one little program

No, it's the GOP doing the hostage taking, they won't fund the government unless ACA is shut down...the Dems are agreeing to their budget proposal (even parts they don't approve of like sequester cuts) they just don't want the budget to shut down ACA.

The GOP gets sequester cuts, the Dems get ACA. If the GOP demands more it's on their own peril.