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Alpha is on SS?
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Give up your social security.
It was FORCED on me and I own it...like it or not....
You equate SS with Communism ? Are you older than 14 or 15 ?
And why change the subject ?
You claim people that preach communist ideals are un-American yet you will take social security.
"When people work against the majority vote because they have an extreme ideology bent that has been used by the leaders of their political party. That is often classic anti Americanism."
Classic, huh ?
Like fighting against the majority that voted for slavery and to make black people 3/5 of person ?
Yeah, thats extreme alright....thats unAmerican ?....
I know you are not suggesting that conservatives were ever against slavery. They are the ones celebrating the "Confederacy". What does that tell you?
It has nothing to do with conservative or liberal...those definitions change with the times and are only relative to one another....their are degrees of liberalism and degrees of conservatism and much they hold in common....
Republicans freed the slaves and fought for their rights, meager as they were at the time....democrats fought civil rights and went to war to keep slavery a part of their lives...thats history (short version)....aborations here and there for sure, not worth debating every nuance over the years...
It was FORCED on me and I own it...like it or not....
You equate SS with Communism ? Are you older than 14 or 15 ?
And why change the subject ?
You claim people that preach communist ideals are un-American yet you will take social security.
I dont "take" it.....I bought it, I paid for it, I wasn't asked, I was forced under penalty of law, (note, Congress wasn't forced to take it) as you will be to buy health insurance....(note, Congress won't be forced to buy it)
Alpha is on SS?
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Its no more name calling than to say, "See that fat guy or see that tall guy...
Its a description....
Just because you're born in American doesn't mean you can't be unAmerican or hold unAmerican ideals.....
Calling someone un-American is name calling. No one is in the capacity of deeming someone un-American.
The principles of Communism and Communists states have been recognized as enemies of the United States for a hundred years ....so I conclude those that preach that philosophy over the type of Constitutional government we now have ...are by definition UN-American....and I claim the "capacity" , (the right) to make that claim and hold that view, whether you like it or not....
I also keep hearing this line: "Let's take our country back".
What is that supposed to mean?? Back from whom???
Lets take our country back
From the politicians that:
make laws for us that they don't have to live by
give themselves raises while unemployment is rampent
demand 747's to fly their asses all over the world at my expense
that spend money that doesn't exist
that are bankrupting the nation
that are taking over private industry
that are indoctrinating the children against their parents beliefs
I could go on and on, but whats the point.
You claim people that preach communist ideals are un-American yet you will take social security.
I dont "take" it.....I bought it, I paid for it, I wasn't asked, I was forced under penalty of law, (note, Congress wasn't forced to take it) as you will be to buy health insurance....(note, Congress won't be forced to buy it)
How much do you think you paid in? Would it last 30 or 40 more years after you retire?
How about if the government gave you exactly the amount you paid in and cut off funds. That cool with you?
I dont "take" it.....I bought it, I paid for it, I wasn't asked, I was forced under penalty of law, (note, Congress wasn't forced to take it) as you will be to buy health insurance....(note, Congress won't be forced to buy it)
How much do you think you paid in? Would it last 30 or 40 more years after you retire?
How about if the government gave you exactly the amount you paid in and cut off funds. That cool with you?
How about they give me what I figure I would have earned with it.....?
I'll do the math, I know best what I would have earned .....
I also keep hearing this line: "Let's take our country back".
What is that supposed to mean?? Back from whom???
Lets take our country back
From the politicians that:
make laws for us that they don't have to live by
give themselves raises while unemployment is rampent
demand 747's to fly their asses all over the world at my expense
that spend money that doesn't exist
that are bankrupting the nation
that are taking over private industry
that are indoctrinating the children against their parents beliefs
I could go on and on, but whats the point.
Because most of your points are baseless.
Caging (voter suppression) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think this is clearly unAmerican
1980s
In 1981 and 1986 the Republican National Committee (RNC) sent out letters to predominately African-American neighborhoods. When tens of thousands of them were returned undeliverable, the party successfully challenged the voters and had them deleted from voting rolls. Due to the violation of the Voting Rights Act, the RNC was taken to court. Its officials entered a consent decree which prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that targeted minorities or conducting mail campaigns to "compile voter challenge lists."[5]
[edit] 2004 US Election
BBC journalist Greg Palast obtained an RNC document entitled "State Implementation Template III.doc" that described Republican election operations for caging plans in numerous states. The paragraph in the document pertaining to caging was:
Wanting....yes, demanding that elections are fair is totally and unequivocally American in every way....to make an effort that voters are registered according to the laws now in place and vote in their designated districts is the DUTY of every American.....
Demanding that only lawful citizens vote is our DUTY.
Lets take our country back
From the politicians that:
make laws for us that they don't have to live by
give themselves raises while unemployment is rampent
demand 747's to fly their asses all over the world at my expense
that spend money that doesn't exist
that are bankrupting the nation
that are taking over private industry
that are indoctrinating the children against their parents beliefs
I could go on and on, but whats the point.
Because most of your points are baseless.
well school me sonny, start at the top....with SOC.SEC. law....laws against being able to sue them, they will be exempt from the new healthcare crap..., paying for their auto ins. and auto leases, their private gym,...
their meals and bar tabs....etc
What is Meant When Someone Uses the Words "Un-American" or "Anti-American" about another American?...
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I wish elections mattered to people.
When we have a litgitimate election then theresults should be respected.
There are a few Americans today who dont think elections matter.
I don't see how socialism and freedom are not synonymous (especially when I look at almost all other Western democracies...) unless one believes freedom means acquiring wealth and property.
Caging (voter suppression) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think this is clearly unAmerican
1980s
In 1981 and 1986 the Republican National Committee (RNC) sent out letters to predominately African-American neighborhoods. When tens of thousands of them were returned undeliverable, the party successfully challenged the voters and had them deleted from voting rolls. Due to the violation of the Voting Rights Act, the RNC was taken to court. Its officials entered a consent decree which prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that targeted minorities or conducting mail campaigns to "compile voter challenge lists."[5]
[edit] 2004 US Election
BBC journalist Greg Palast obtained an RNC document entitled "State Implementation Template III.doc" that described Republican election operations for caging plans in numerous states. The paragraph in the document pertaining to caging was:
Wanting....yes, demanding that elections are fair is totally and unequivocally American in every way....to make an effort that voters are registered according to the laws now in place and vote in their designated districts is the DUTY of every American.....
Demanding that only lawful citizens vote is our DUTY.
"Demanding that only lawful citizens vote is our DUTY. "
define "lawful citizen"
is an atheist a "lawful citizen"?
according to g bush the 1st they are NOT....
g bush the first would DENY ATHEISTS the right to vote
some con on these boards just recently posted a thread suggesting that people on welfare NOT be allowed to vote...
some fundamentalist christians believe that America is a christian ntion and that ONLY christians be allowed to vote, teach in schools, serve in the military, hold public office
Caging (voter suppression) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think this is clearly unAmerican
1980s
In 1981 and 1986 the Republican National Committee (RNC) sent out letters to predominately African-American neighborhoods. When tens of thousands of them were returned undeliverable, the party successfully challenged the voters and had them deleted from voting rolls. Due to the violation of the Voting Rights Act, the RNC was taken to court. Its officials entered a consent decree which prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that targeted minorities or conducting mail campaigns to "compile voter challenge lists."[5]
[edit] 2004 US Election
BBC journalist Greg Palast obtained an RNC document entitled "State Implementation Template III.doc" that described Republican election operations for caging plans in numerous states. The paragraph in the document pertaining to caging was:
Wanting....yes, demanding that elections are fair is totally and unequivocally American in every way....to make an effort that voters are registered according to the laws now in place and vote in their designated districts is the DUTY of every American.....
Demanding that only lawful citizens vote is our DUTY.
"Demanding that only lawful citizens vote is our DUTY. "
define "lawful citizen"
is an atheist a "lawful citizen"?
according to g bush the 1st they are NOT....
g bush the first would DENY ATHEISTS the right to vote
some con on these boards just recently posted a thread suggesting that people on welfare NOT be allowed to vote...
some fundamentalist christians believe that America is a christian ntion and that ONLY christians be allowed to vote, teach in schools, serve in the military, hold public office