What is in Pandora's box?

[2aguy]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

I think the only thing left was "hope."

 

[2aguy]

Herr Mueller said there wasn't.

On the contrary.

Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”

I. Summary of Major Findings

The redacted Mueller Report documents a series of activities that show strong evidence of collusion. Or, more precisely, it provides significant evidence that Trump Campaign associates coordinated with, cooperated with, encouraged, or gave support to the Russia/WikiLeaks election interference activities. The Report documents the following actions (each of which is analyzed in detail in Part II):

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

During the course of 2016, Trump Campaign associates failed to report any of the Russian/WikiLeaks overtures to federal law enforcement, publicly denied any contacts with Russians/WikiLeaks, and actively encouraged the public to doubt that Russia was behind the hacking and distribution of stolen emails.

Wow....none of what you posted is remotely accurate. But thanks for taking the time to post that crap...

 

[Zander]

LWNJ's....they really are suffering as Trump keeps his promises.

I feel sorry for the fools.

Like this promise?

Trump Opens Door to Cuts to Medicare and Other Entitlement Programs
The president signaled a willingness to scale back Medicare, a shift from his 2016 platform of protecting entitlement programs.
Trump Opens Door to Cuts to Medicare and Other Entitlement Programs

I love it.

 

[BrokeLoser]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

What is in Pandora's box?
A sane mind not hosting a hardcore case of TDS believes it's full of the same thing that Mueller found during the Russia hoax and the same thing the FBi found during the Kavanaugh hearings....but please carry on, the entertainment value is priceless.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Herr Mueller said there wasn't.

On the contrary.

Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”

I. Summary of Major Findings

The redacted Mueller Report documents a series of activities that show strong evidence of collusion. Or, more precisely, it provides significant evidence that Trump Campaign associates coordinated with, cooperated with, encouraged, or gave support to the Russia/WikiLeaks election interference activities. The Report documents the following actions (each of which is analyzed in detail in Part II):

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

During the course of 2016, Trump Campaign associates failed to report any of the Russian/WikiLeaks overtures to federal law enforcement, publicly denied any contacts with Russians/WikiLeaks, and actively encouraged the public to doubt that Russia was behind the hacking and distribution of stolen emails.

Wow....none of what you posted is remotely accurate. But thanks for taking the time to post that crap...

What he posted is accurate. If you think it's not, why not take the time to counter it?

 

[Nostra]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

Sounds like you think the House Clowns have presented an open and shut case.

Then why are you begging the Senate to do the job YOUR House Clowns refused to do?

 

[joaquinmiller]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

What is in Pandora's box?
A sane mind not hosting a hardcore case of TDS believes it's full of the same thing that Mueller found during the Russia hoax and the same thing the FBi found during the Kavanaugh hearings....but please carry on, the entertainment value is priceless.

TDS sufferers think Trump is a man of his word. There's no measure to how stupid that is.

 

[whitehall]

Pandora? Is that the name of the alleged whistle blower? Democrats had their shot and they obviously had nothing. You almost gotta feel sorry for the pathetic holdouts who are still hoping to find a treasure.

 

[BrokeLoser]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

What is in Pandora's box?
A sane mind not hosting a hardcore case of TDS believes it's full of the same thing that Mueller found during the Russia hoax and the same thing the FBi found during the Kavanaugh hearings....but please carry on, the entertainment value is priceless.

TDS sufferers think Trump is a man of his word. There's no measure to how stupid that is.

"A man of his word" delivers on promises made to the people....What POTUS did so better than Trump has?

 

[Olde Europe]

All while theoretically-sworn-impartial-jurists carry Trump's water:

Both Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Rep. Mark Meadows of North Carolina said they'd urge Trump to invoke executive privilege if Bolton were called -- and several Republicans expected Trump to take that tack for any of the four witnesses the Democrats want.
"Executive privilege is a very important separation of powers issue here, and I don't want to see the presidency weakened," Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson told CNN on Thursday. "Do we want to stretch that thing out for months? You know, going through legal process because the President will, and should, challenge those types of subpoenas."

If Trump won't invoke executive privilege, R Senators want to do it for him.

Senate GOP uses Trump's executive privilege threat as rallying cry against subpoenas - CNNPolitics

The sworn-impartial-jurors want Trump to take the blame for the "Know Less" faction insisting on knowing even less, demonstrating to would-be defectors (Ha!) the pointlessness of defecting.

If there were a dearth of sleaze on this planet, the Goobers in the Greatest Deliberative Body would have it covered, no matter the size of the shortfall.

Oh, and have you heard? "President Trump," Pat Cipollone said, "is a man of his word." Trump, as you know, also said, he'd love to have Mulvaney, Pompeo et. al. testify. So, all's good then.

 

[westwall]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

Pandora is on the verge of giving up her secrets, and they are all not good for the ruling elite.

 

[joaquinmiller]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

What is in Pandora's box?
A sane mind not hosting a hardcore case of TDS believes it's full of the same thing that Mueller found during the Russia hoax and the same thing the FBi found during the Kavanaugh hearings....but please carry on, the entertainment value is priceless.

TDS sufferers think Trump is a man of his word. There's no measure to how stupid that is.

"A man of his word" delivers on promises made to the people....What POTUS did so better than Trump has?

No one else was stupid enough to promise he would build a wall and have another country pay for it. No one has ever been stupid enough to say he was putting the finishing touches on a great healthcare plan that provided great coverage to everyone at a tiny fraction of the cost of Obamacare.

Drain the swamp? Jesus H! He's exporting corruption to Ukraine. End the wars? He has sent almost 20,000 additional troops to the ME since May 2019. He has lied to you and me every day he has been in office, and his lack of credibility weakens us with friends and foes.

TDS? You've got it bad.

 

[DOTR]

It has been confirmed by those witnesses who testified under oath. It hasn't been disputed by anyone under oath,

So having him testify won't hurt the Dem's case? Excellent!

If the Rs thought calling the whistleblower would help Trump, he'd be in the Senate right now. They're afraid of more evidence. None of it will help Trump.

I don't think you get it - if you're on the side that's fighting for less information and less evidence, you're on the wrong side. You're being played.

No information ever came out of a leftist propaganda circus.

You've been completely played. Played out. You're on the side that wants less evidence.

Is that another way of saying im on the winning side?

Read it any way you want. Your post supposes the Bolton, Mulvaney and Duffy testimonies would be leftist propaganda. That's a bit of trollish stupidity. You're on the side that wants less testimony and less evidence. There's never a good argument for that.

Heres my argument...you lose. And you dont get to pick the testimony or evidence. Maybe a little less anti-Americanism and you could win an election and get to choose. But for now..you only have the power that comes from unelected and unAmerican corporations like CNN.

 

[bripat9643]

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Not so clever quips are not a substitute for the kind of factual refutation you are apparently incapable of.

Why would you need facts to refute utter bullshit?

 

[Intolerant]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

 

[bripat9643]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

We learn that Pelosi and company were too fucking stupid to ask for stuff they could have asked for when no one could have said, “No!”.

You do know the House, as part of its inquiry, sent out subpoenas for multiple witnesses who have refused to testify, right?

Yeah, so? Why didn't the Dims take it to the court?

 

[Intolerant]

It’s ironic that Donny gets impeached for asking another nation to look into Biden’s admitted corruption.

My prediction is this lie about Biden being promoted by Trump will be one of the enduring legacies of the 2020 campaign. Much like the lies about Hillary will live forever in the corrupted minds of Trumpette's.

SURPRISE, SURPRISE: THE DOJ’S HILLARY CLINTON INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN A BUST
Surprise, Surprise: The DOJ’s Hillary Clinton Investigation Has Been a Bust

My prediction at the end of 2020. You will no longer be posting.

 

[joaquinmiller]

If the Rs thought calling the whistleblower would help Trump, he'd be in the Senate right now. They're afraid of more evidence. None of it will help Trump.

I don't think you get it - if you're on the side that's fighting for less information and less evidence, you're on the wrong side. You're being played.

No information ever came out of a leftist propaganda circus.

You've been completely played. Played out. You're on the side that wants less evidence.

Is that another way of saying im on the winning side?

Read it any way you want. Your post supposes the Bolton, Mulvaney and Duffy testimonies would be leftist propaganda. That's a bit of trollish stupidity. You're on the side that wants less testimony and less evidence. There's never a good argument for that.

Heres my argument...you lose. And you dont get to pick the testimony or evidence. Maybe a little less anti-Americanism and you could win an election and get to choose. But for now..you only have the power that comes from unelected and unAmerican corporations like CNN.

Well, sure, if your goal is to hide evidence, that's an argument. I posted so yesterday a couple of times. Part of the point is for voters to see the Rs and Trump hiding evidence. Democrats have known all along that the Rs would run a cover-up for Trump. They had surrendered their own power previously, when Trump declared phony emergencies for arms sales and diverting funds. The congresscritters and functionaries of the Party of Trump are the most cowardly bunch of quislings to ever don pastel tutus. With luck, enough voters will see that. Good luck, that is. Bad luck and you and King Donald (First of his Name, Breaker of Deals) will flush democracy down the toilet.

 

[gipper]

It’s ironic that Donny gets impeached for asking another nation to look into Biden’s admitted corruption.

My prediction is this lie about Biden being promoted by Trump will be one of the enduring legacies of the 2020 campaign. Much like the lies about Hillary will live forever in the corrupted minds of Trumpette's.

SURPRISE, SURPRISE: THE DOJ’S HILLARY CLINTON INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN A BUST
Surprise, Surprise: The DOJ’s Hillary Clinton Investigation Has Been a Bust

Could you please explain how Biden’s admission of quid pro quo on tape, is nothing?

 

[jknowgood]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.