What If Bush Were President Today? Would He Be Re-elected?

[LibocalypseNow]

Bush is President today. This is Bush's Third Term. I see no real differences in Bush/Obama policies. The only difference i see is that you could probably call Bush 'Socialist-Light' while this current President is a full-fledged Socialist. The guy in there now just borrowed all of Bush's worst ideas and made them much much worse. People who believe there has been "Hope & Change" really are delusional. The only question now is whether or not Bush will get his fourth term. I guess we'll see in 2012.

 

[uscitizen]

oh there's more but you acted as if none happened. Take North Carolina it hasn't had a republican controlled state government in over 100 years, but then came the tea party.

I SAID incumbents in congress.

Without the tea party democrats would still be in control of a lot of the governmet federal and state. And that is a fact.

Perhaps it is, Regular republicans would have likely won those seats anyway.
but still does not support your origional statement.
Nor correct your incorrect statement alluding that Crist was a congressional incumbent.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I SAID incumbents in congress.

Without the tea party democrats would still be in control of a lot of the governmet federal and state. And that is a fact.

Perhaps it is, Regular republicans would have likely won those seats anyway.
but still does not support your origional statement.
Nor correct your incorrect statement alluding that Crist was a congressional incumbent.

Without the tea party the democats would have won. period. Without the tea party people would not have known about what the government was doing.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This one section is a tell all about you. When did bush say we had a bad economy when he became president and blamed it on clinton? Yep 4.5% unemployment is real bad for an economy.

Do you even live in the same universe as the rest of us?

When I took office, our economy was beginning a recession.

Bush says he inherited recession - Aug. 7, 2002

Bush, on the 2002 campaign trail.



Transcript: Charlie Gibson Interviews President Bush - ABC News

Interview in 2008, claiming that the economic woes of his entire 8 year Presidency were caused on the two years prior to his Presidency.

"I inherited a recession, I'm ending on a recession.

Bush touts accomplishments, admits mistakes - CNN

Final press conference of Bush Presidency.

The deficit was caused by a recession we inherited.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyUYjalthyk"]Youtube video[/ame]

Bush in video clip

Exactly where did Bush blame clinton?

"When I took office, our economy was beginning a recession," Bush said in a speech at a Mississippi high school. "Then our economy was hit by terrorists. Then our economy was hit by corporate scandals. But I'm certain of this: We won't let fear undermine our economy and we're not going to let fraud undermine it either."

Sounds like he was blaming 9/11 and also big busniess.


Also your link places blame on Clinton

The current Bush administration's claim that it inherited a recession from Clinton became somewhat more credible last week, when the Commerce Department revised its estimates of GDP, the broadest measure of economic growth, in the first, second and third quarters of 2001, showing that it shrank in all three quarters.

Though the inherited part is more of what CNN views.

 

[Sallow]

Bush would not get elected in 2012.

Bill Clinton..shoe in.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Really everything was FINE?!?! WHAT? So everything to cause economic collapse happen between January 2007 when the Dems took over and December of 2007 when we started to see the economy go down the toilet?

That's some interesting spin, isn't it. Especially since the first signs of the shitstorm that was to come appeared in, wait for it... 2006.


God, Republicans need to learn some unrevised history. I love it when they sit there and, not even joking, say that the slim majority of Democrats are to blame for the economic collapse. Good lord.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

I didn't agree with all of Bush's policies but I always respected him because when he made a decision he would stick by it and give everyone else the middle finger.

And that's exactly why I DON'T respect him.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Really everything was FINE?!?! WHAT? So everything to cause economic collapse happen between January 2007 when the Dems took over and December of 2007 when we started to see the economy go down the toilet?

That's some interesting spin, isn't it. Especially since the first signs of the shitstorm that was to come appeared in, wait for it... 2006.


God, Republicans need to learn some unrevised history. I love it when they sit there and, not even joking, say that the slim majority of Democrats are to blame for the economic collapse. Good lord.

So the shit storm could be seen in 2006? according to the media the shitstrom could be seen in 2001

 

[Mr. Peepers]

So the shit storm could be seen in 2006? according to the media the shitstrom could be seen in 2001

Well, referring mainly to the housing bubble popping mainly, yes, you start to see people starting to default in droves in 2006. However, none of Bush's policies were good for the economy, so yes, you can go back to 2001. That's also when he decided to use 9-11 for his "in" for his special little war for profit.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Bush has had Three Terms. Lets not make it a fourth people. Vote for real change in 2012.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So the shit storm could be seen in 2006? according to the media the shitstrom could be seen in 2001

Well, referring mainly to the housing bubble popping mainly, yes, you start to see people starting to default in droves in 2006. However, none of Bush's policies were good for the economy, so yes, you can go back to 2001. That's also when he decided to use 9-11 for his "in" for his special little war for profit.

it takes a couple of years for peple to be kicked out of their homes, then you have the starting process so it begain before Bush was in office.

 

[gekaap]

Exactly where did Bush blame clinton?

Where he said that he inherited a recession.... Hello, hello, is anyone home?

Sounds like he was blaming 9/11 and also big busniess.

Hello, hello, is anyone home? He said that he inherited a recession, i.e. that the recession was from the previous administration.

Also your link places blame on Clinton

The current Bush administration's claim that it inherited a recession from Clinton became somewhat more credible last week, when the Commerce Department revised its estimates of GDP, the broadest measure of economic growth, in the first, second and third quarters of 2001, showing that it shrank in all three quarters.

And 2001 was the year when Bush was in office, not Clinton. Trying to re-date the first Bush recession is pointless as this has already been definitively established as having begun in March 2001. It wasn't dated until well after the recession began, and early figures were only able to shed light on whether the country had been in recession at the moment. But that, of course is really beside the point. Bush claimed over and over that he inherited a bad economy. Can't run away from facts in your face.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Bush did inherit a Recession. He just didn't whine about it as much as this current President has. This President has been a whiner from day one. It's actually kind of annoying. That being said,this is a Bush Third Term. I'm gonna do my best to make sure he doesn't get a Fourth Term. See ya in 2012.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

it takes a couple of years for peple to be kicked out of their homes, then you have the starting process so it begain before Bush was in office.

Huh? ARM's usually re-adjust from 2-5 years, right? Thusly, placing all of these types of mortgages responsible for the housing collapse squarely in the Bush administration, if the first wave of defaults happened in 2006...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

it takes a couple of years for peple to be kicked out of their homes, then you have the starting process so it begain before Bush was in office.

Huh? ARM's usually re-adjust from 2-5 years, right? Thusly, placing all of these types of mortgages responsible for the housing collapse squarely in the Bush administration, if the first wave of defaults happened in 2006...

When where the loans taken out? Under what government law did Bush sign forcing bank's to make loans to lower income people? Before 2006?

 

[Mr. Peepers]

When where the loans taken out?

Like I said, if the first loans go bad in 2006, and the longest ARM reset is 5 years, that would place the loan origination in 2001. For a 3 year-2003 and a 2 year-2004.

Under what government law did Bush sign forcing bank's to make loans to lower income people?

There is no such law forcing banks to lend to lower income people. I know of what you are referring to, and it had nothing at all to do with the housing collapse. The lenders lowered lending qualifications because Wall St. was squealing for more and more loans to bundle and THEY were also getting rich from these "loans".

 

[bigrebnc1775]

When where the loans taken out?

Like I said, if the first loans go bad in 2006, and the longest ARM reset is 5 years, that would place the loan origination in 2001. For a 3 year-2003 and a 2 year-2004.

Under what government law did Bush sign forcing bank's to make loans to lower income people?

There is no such law forcing banks to lend to lower income people. I know of what you are referring to, and it had nothing at all to do with the housing collapse. The lenders lowered lending qualifications because Wall St. was squealing for more and more loans to bundle and THEY were also getting rich from these "loans".

Bill Clinton will disagree wth you.
1994
September 23 Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFI) Fund Created
Meeting an early campaign commitment, the President signed legislation creating the CDFI Fund to support both specialized financial institutions and traditional banks that serve lower-income communities. As of late 2000, the CDFI Fund had certified over 400 community development banks, community development credit unions, housing and business loan funds and venture capital firms as CDFIs. The CDFI Fund has provided over $427 million in funding to institutions that provide capital and financial services to underserved markets.

 

[Sarah G]

Bush did inherit a Recession. He just didn't whine about it as much as this current President has. This President has been a whiner from day one. It's actually kind of annoying. That being said,this is a Bush Third Term. I'm gonna do my best to make sure he doesn't get a Fourth Term. See ya in 2012.

So, you're trying to say W was handed a recession from Clinton but it started in 2001 then lasted 8 months?

This downturn longer than most

The NBER did not give any reasons or causes of the recession. But it is widely accepted that the housing downturn, which started in 2006, is a primary cause of the broader economic malaise.

The fall of housing prices from peak levels reached earlier this decade cut deeply into home building and home purchases. This also caused a sharp rise in mortgage foreclosures, which in turn resulted in losses of hundreds of billions of dollars among the nation's leading banks and a tightening of credit.

The current recession is one of the longest downturns since the Great Depression of the 1930's.

The last two recessions (1990-1991 and 2001) lasted eight months each, and only two of the 10 previous post-Depression downturns lasted as long as a full year, according to the NBER.

It's official: U.S. in a recession since December 2007 - Dec. 1, 2008

 

[uscitizen]

Without the tea party democrats would still be in control of a lot of the governmet federal and state. And that is a fact.

Perhaps it is, Regular republicans would have likely won those seats anyway.
but still does not support your origional statement.
Nor correct your incorrect statement alluding that Crist was a congressional incumbent.

Without the tea party the democats would have won. period. Without the tea party people would not have known about what the government was doing.

Bull we have Fox and all of the right wing talkinig heads don't we?
People are gullible and things did not get better fast enough to suit them.

 

[Old Rocks]

Mud, reality and you have never made been introduced.