What if America Acted Like the French??

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    April 25th, 2006



     
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    His daughter Mikka, the news reporter for CNN? is smokin!!!! What a doll!!
     
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    If the United States were like the French the west coast would be speaking Japanese and the east coast would be speaking German. In the middle of the country I'm sure our former fascist enemies would work something out. To be French is to understand that the first action in war is surrender.
     
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    Actually, the Shah was installed in a CIA-sponsored coup to depose the elected Prime Minister of Iran, Mohammed Mossadegh. The name of that operation was Operation Ajax.
     
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    thanks for the tid bit what is your point?
     
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    Correct, and the horrible leadership of the Shah is what led to the Ayatollah rebellion and Iran's (somewhat justified) hatred of the U.S.
     
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    cia acting on behalf of the brits for british oil interests

    In October of 1952, Mossadegh declared that Britain was "an enemy", and cut all diplomatic relations with the United Kingdom. In November and December 1952, British intelligence officials suggested to American intelligence that the prime minister should be ousted. The new US administration under Dwight Eisenhower and the British government under Winston Churchill agreed to work together toward Mossadegh's removal.
     
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    The point is, this is yet another article in which non-interventionism and neutrality are condemned as leading to war, when in fact it was our government's interventionism that steered Iran towards a revolution to begin with.

    It's the same way with WWII. "We tried "isolationism", and Germany just ran all over europe!" they say. This sentiment ignores the fact that the foolish Versailles Treaty was a direct result of US interventionism in a european war we had no business getting involved with.
     
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    No, the Versailles Treaty was not supported by the United States and was the result of childish French and British officials who wanted revenge on the Axis powers. As far as our involvement in the war, Britain was a valuable economic ally and we couldn't just cut off trade with them. When Germany started sinking our ships, the war became our business.
     
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    actually it was preassure from churchill on eisenhower do to an iranian embargo on british oil....a revolution had already occured when parliment tossed the shah and elected whats his name and siezed british assests and the brits refused to by the oil
     

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