What Does this Nobel Prize Mean?

[Wicked Jester]

So many on this board seem to believe that America is "stronger" when we bully and bluster our way around the globe demanding our way at the point of a sword. But that "strength" is not strength at all. Because no matter how superior our military might - we could not stand alone against the entire world.

Our strength lies in our military might COUPLED with our friendships around the world. You can't live at peace with ONLY friendships and you can't live at peace with JUST military might. If you put all of your eggs in just one of these baskets, you will fail.

The fact that I value friendships as well as a potent military means I value a strong and secure America. Anyone who can't support BOTH - does not.

THAT is why people who do love America and who DO favor a strong and secure America should realize that what this award really means is that we are making good progress on at least 50% of the goal. No more - no less.

We hope we can be every bit as successful with the other 50% as well.

I know that it is to much to ask of the hyper-partisan zealots who appear to live and breathe for the sole purpose of tearing down Obama at any cost (even at the cost of our national security) to acknowledge this obvious truth. That's OK, keep whining about what a disgrace this award is and how it wasn't earned and hope and pray that you can convince yourself or others of the validity of your arguments. But do it secure in the knowledge that America is safer and more secure - in part - because of the international goodwill this award represents.

Well...I see you have mastered 6th grade American history. That's where they use the word "ALLIED POWERS" and "AXIS" powers when discussing our wars throughout the entire existence of America. Exactly like the coalition of forces we have in Iraq and Afghanistan.

See? You ARE able to learn the military might coupled with our allies is what allows us to kick the living shit out of anyone who fucks with us.

No one is "standing alone" against the entire world. Diplomacy has it's place but when you are the recipient of a sneak attack then that shit goes out the window. Take your holier than thou peacenik bullshit and shove it!

Yeah, I sure see all of those "rebuilt friends" streaming troops into Afghanistan RIGHT NOW.
Really, I do!
They just LOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVEEEEE us now!
Really, they do!
LMAO!

 

[PatekPhilippe]

ah PP, you can't call Jr's Coalition of the Bribed our Allies , when the money he paid them ran out, they beat feet

So NATO just wanted money and then when we didn't pay them...they ran away?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I think when so many in the United States and so many around the international community "see things" that you don't see - you have to wonder - whose vision is blurred?

what did they spike your kool aid with this morning? I see things getting worse by the second. 35,000 people in Detroit lined up for handouts that only 3,500 will receive and violence breaks out. 30% unemployment in Detroit. the bastion of liberalism and the union empire.. and you want to pat yourself on the back? Go ahead.

Oh, I see - the Nobel Peace Prize should be linked to unemployment rates in Detroit, Mi, USA?????

Man, you are really scratching and clawing aren't you? LOL.

Pot..meet kettle.

The Nobel Peace Prize does have guidelines you dolt....The Barry didn't do jack shit to earn that award and the political body that awarded it to him are European socialists. That being said...after the award was given to a terrorist it LOST any and all credibility.

 

[potter 58]

No jackass, Nato was later, but the first 130 some contiries that signed on and sent maybe 3 or 4 troops, yep when that money ran out, Jr had to go beg Nato to get involved, His daddy must be real proud of this fucking idiot because he knew how to build a real coalition, BTW Daddy was smart enough to get the rest of the world to pick up 90 % of the tab, Jr, LOL , he just ran his fiasco's off the books

 

[Rozman]

I have started to hear some on the left say that those who disagree with the President being chosen to receive the Nobel Peace Prize do so because He's black. Can't we disagree with the choice for other reasons and not be called racists because we don't like the choice.

 

[rightwinger]

I have started to hear some on the left say that those who disagree with the President being chosen to receive the Nobel Peace Prize do so because He's black. Can't we disagree with the choice for other reasons and not be called racists because we don't like the choice.

No you don't disagree because he is black. You disagree because you hate Obama so much (probably because he was born in Kenya or because he is a Muslim) that you want the US to fail if it means Obama gets credit

- Openly argue against a rising economy
- Cheer when the city of Chicago loses their Olympic bid
- Block Healthcare so Obama does not get credit
- Protest when an American wins the Nobel Prize

 

[Qball]

I have started to hear some on the left say that those who disagree with the President being chosen to receive the Nobel Peace Prize do so because He's black. Can't we disagree with the choice for other reasons and not be called racists because we don't like the choice.

No you don't disagree because he is black. You disagree because you hate Obama so much (probably because he was born in Kenya or because he is a Muslim) that you want the US to fail if it means Obama gets credit

- Openly argue against a rising economy
- Cheer when the city of Chicago loses their Olympic bid
- Block Healthcare so Obama does not get credit
- Protest when an American wins the Nobel Prize

I can't figure out if you're serious or if you're joking around.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

No jackass, Nato was later, but the first 130 some contiries that signed on and sent maybe 3 or 4 troops, yep when that money ran out, Jr had to go beg Nato to get involved, His daddy must be real proud of this fucking idiot because he knew how to build a real coalition, BTW Daddy was smart enough to get the rest of the world to pick up 90 % of the tab, Jr, LOL , he just ran his fiasco's off the books

but the first 130 some contiries that signed on

They sent a lot more than 3 troops but you are too intellectually dishonest and quite possibly drunk to understand that...do some research beyond the Huffington blog
LMFAO @ potter58

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I have started to hear some on the left say that those who disagree with the President being chosen to receive the Nobel Peace Prize do so because He's black. Can't we disagree with the choice for other reasons and not be called racists because we don't like the choice.

No you don't disagree because he is black. You disagree because you hate Obama so much (probably because he was born in Kenya or because he is a Muslim) that you want the US to fail if it means Obama gets credit

- Openly argue against a rising economy
- Cheer when the city of Chicago loses their Olympic bid
- Block Healthcare so Obama does not get credit
- Protest when an American wins the Nobel Prize

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

What a delusional dipshit!!!!!!!!!

 

[rightwinger]

I have started to hear some on the left say that those who disagree with the President being chosen to receive the Nobel Peace Prize do so because He's black. Can't we disagree with the choice for other reasons and not be called racists because we don't like the choice.

No you don't disagree because he is black. You disagree because you hate Obama so much (probably because he was born in Kenya or because he is a Muslim) that you want the US to fail if it means Obama gets credit

- Openly argue against a rising economy
- Cheer when the city of Chicago loses their Olympic bid
- Block Healthcare so Obama does not get credit
- Protest when an American wins the Nobel Prize

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

What a delusional dipshit!!!!!!!!!

Oh????

And the republicans don't openly argue that the recession is ending?

They didn't cheer when Chicago lost the Olympics?

The sordid underbelly of the once Grand Old Party is open for everyone to see

 

[nodoginnafight]

childish personal insults and wild, unsupported claims in response to well-supported evidence ... the usual suspects up to their usual tricks. Pathetic but totally predictable.
Manu - I still don't see any point provided for your previous quiz.

I guess it's my fault for expecting a sustained intelligent discussion. Too many hijackers just get their jollies by hurling the same tired, old, worn-out insults at the same targets. Don't any of you guys even aspired to something better?

I graduated middle school a long time ago - if you guys ever do, come on back and we'll see if you learned how to construst a salient argument or how to support opinions. Just flinging insults bores those of us whose are capable of more demanding discourse.

And you wonder why nobody is buying into your crap??????????????

 

[wethepeople]

Best thing that could have happened to the repubs!! Now every country in the world are looking at the sham prez picking up the sham prize for his sham presidency!! Barry is on a pedestal and guess what?? People put you on a pedestal and then knock you on your ass. Kind of like lohan and britney, paris and the rest of the left hollywood loons. What's that noise?? Barry non citizen muslim soetoro dunham hussein obama taking a dive into oblivion!! Lol

 

[nodoginnafight]

So many on this board seem to believe that America is "stronger" when we bully and bluster our way around the globe demanding our way at the point of a sword. But that "strength" is not strength at all. Because no matter how superior our military might - we could not stand alone against the entire world.

Our strength lies in our military might COUPLED with our friendships around the world. You can't live at peace with ONLY friendships and you can't live at peace with JUST military might. If you put all of your eggs in just one of these baskets, you will fail.

The fact that I value friendships as well as a potent military means I value a strong and secure America. Anyone who can't support BOTH - does not.

THAT is why people who do love America and who DO favor a strong and secure America should realize that what this award really means is that we are making good progress on at least 50% of the goal. No more - no less.

We hope we can be every bit as successful with the other 50% as well.

I know that it is to much to ask of the hyper-partisan zealots who appear to live and breathe for the sole purpose of tearing down Obama at any cost (even at the cost of our national security) to acknowledge this obvious truth. That's OK, keep whining about what a disgrace this award is and how it wasn't earned and hope and pray that you can convince yourself or others of the validity of your arguments. But do it secure in the knowledge that America is safer and more secure - in part - because of the international goodwill this award represents.

Well...I see you have mastered 6th grade American history. That's where they use the word "ALLIED POWERS" and "AXIS" powers when discussing our wars throughout the entire existence of America. Exactly like the coalition of forces we have in Iraq and Afghanistan.

See? You ARE able to learn the military might coupled with our allies is what allows us to kick the living shit out of anyone who fucks with us.

No one is "standing alone" against the entire world. Diplomacy has it's place but when you are the recipient of a sneak attack then that shit goes out the window. Take your holier than thou peacenik bullshit and shove it!

So you agree with the point I made in the very first post that it takes military strength AND friendships around the world to keep America safe and secure. Yet you have to agree in a way that suggests that it was YOUR idea that YOU had to teach me:
"See? You ARE able to learn the military might coupled with our allies is what allows us to ..."
Why try to agree with someone in an insulting tone????

No one is "standing alone" against the entire world.

and no one said we were - I said we could not - a point which you already agreed with.

So why personally insult someone whose points you so completely agree with? Is it because insult is just your default mode? You just insult first and read for comprehension later - if ever???

I simply point all this out so you'll understand why I neglect to engage in the pointless exercise of interaction with you. We obviously come to these boards for very different reasons. I hope you enjoy yourself.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

So many on this board seem to believe that America is "stronger" when we bully and bluster our way around the globe demanding our way at the point of a sword. But that "strength" is not strength at all. Because no matter how superior our military might - we could not stand alone against the entire world.

Our strength lies in our military might COUPLED with our friendships around the world. You can't live at peace with ONLY friendships and you can't live at peace with JUST military might. If you put all of your eggs in just one of these baskets, you will fail.

The fact that I value friendships as well as a potent military means I value a strong and secure America. Anyone who can't support BOTH - does not.

THAT is why people who do love America and who DO favor a strong and secure America should realize that what this award really means is that we are making good progress on at least 50% of the goal. No more - no less.

We hope we can be every bit as successful with the other 50% as well.

I know that it is to much to ask of the hyper-partisan zealots who appear to live and breathe for the sole purpose of tearing down Obama at any cost (even at the cost of our national security) to acknowledge this obvious truth. That's OK, keep whining about what a disgrace this award is and how it wasn't earned and hope and pray that you can convince yourself or others of the validity of your arguments. But do it secure in the knowledge that America is safer and more secure - in part - because of the international goodwill this award represents.

Well...I see you have mastered 6th grade American history. That's where they use the word "ALLIED POWERS" and "AXIS" powers when discussing our wars throughout the entire existence of America. Exactly like the coalition of forces we have in Iraq and Afghanistan.

See? You ARE able to learn the military might coupled with our allies is what allows us to kick the living shit out of anyone who fucks with us.

No one is "standing alone" against the entire world. Diplomacy has it's place but when you are the recipient of a sneak attack then that shit goes out the window. Take your holier than thou peacenik bullshit and shove it!

So you agree with the point I made in the very first post that it takes military strength AND friendships around the world to keep America safe and secure. Yet you have to agree in a way that suggests that it was YOUR idea that YOU had to terach me:
"See? You ARE able to learn the military might coupled with our allies is what allows us to ..."

No one is "standing alone" against the entire world.

and no one said we were - I said we could not - a point which you already agreed with.

So why personally insult someone whose points you so completely agree with? Is it because insult is just your default mode? You just insult first and read for comprehension later - if ever???

I simply point all this out so you'll understand why I neglect to engage in the pointless exercise of interaction with you. We obviously come to these boards for very different reasons. I hope you enjoy yourself.

The difference between you and I is, I figured this out 35 years ago in elementary school whereas you just had your epiphany. If you would take a lesson or 2 from the history of this great Nation you would realize that bullying and blustering has been alive and well in this nation for over 200 years. The difference between when it's used and when it's not used is up to the President at the time. Do we need allies 100% of the time...NOPE. We have sttod alone against many an enemy and WON!!!! Do we need diplomacy 100% of the time? NOPE. Many times diplomacy isn't called for. Action is and it takes a President with some balls to act. Let history judge him...not some 2 bit anti war ass clown who gets their talking points from Huffington.
Welcome to Politics 101.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

and your personal insults against me in another thread make the statement you made regarding my behavior look extremely stupid. You just made yourself into a whiny ass hypocrite.

Really...you should try thinking before you post statements like this.

So why personally insult someone...

 

[nodoginnafight]

Well...I see you have mastered 6th grade American history. That's where they use the word "ALLIED POWERS" and "AXIS" powers when discussing our wars throughout the entire existence of America. Exactly like the coalition of forces we have in Iraq and Afghanistan.

See? You ARE able to learn the military might coupled with our allies is what allows us to kick the living shit out of anyone who fucks with us.

No one is "standing alone" against the entire world. Diplomacy has it's place but when you are the recipient of a sneak attack then that shit goes out the window. Take your holier than thou peacenik bullshit and shove it!

So you agree with the point I made in the very first post that it takes military strength AND friendships around the world to keep America safe and secure. Yet you have to agree in a way that suggests that it was YOUR idea that YOU had to terach me:
"See? You ARE able to learn the military might coupled with our allies is what allows us to ..."

No one is "standing alone" against the entire world.

and no one said we were - I said we could not - a point which you already agreed with.

So why personally insult someone whose points you so completely agree with? Is it because insult is just your default mode? You just insult first and read for comprehension later - if ever???

I simply point all this out so you'll understand why I neglect to engage in the pointless exercise of interaction with you. We obviously come to these boards for very different reasons. I hope you enjoy yourself.

The difference between you and I is, I figured this out 35 years ago in elementary school whereas you just had your epiphany. If you would take a lesson or 2 from the history of this great Nation you would realize that bullying and blustering has been alive and well in this nation for over 200 years. The difference between when it's used and when it's not used is up to the President at the time. Do we need allies 100% of the time...NOPE. We have sttod alone against many an enemy and WON!!!! Do we need diplomacy 100% of the time? NOPE. Many times diplomacy isn't called for. Action is and it takes a President with some balls to act. Let history judge him...not some 2 bit anti war ass clown who gets their talking points from Huffington.
Welcome to Politics 101.

Yet again you agree with the points I make but for some reason you need to create some little fantasy insults about my education and my news sources. We both KNOW that you have no clue about these things but you just can't seem to stop yourself from spewing hate-driven BS insults.

how sad

 

[nodoginnafight]

and your personal insults against me in another thread make the statement you made regarding my behavior look extremely stupid. You just made yourself into a whiny ass hypocrite.

Really...you should try thinking before you post statements like this.

So why personally insult someone...

You mean when I told you that I didn't appreciate you insulting another Vet? Yeah - a clear pattern - you just spew insults - it appears to be the only thing you are capable of.

how very very sad

 

[JakeStarkey]

What the NPP means is the international community's endorsement of the American hard right's defeat last year and coming defeat next year.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

So you agree with the point I made in the very first post that it takes military strength AND friendships around the world to keep America safe and secure. Yet you have to agree in a way that suggests that it was YOUR idea that YOU had to terach me:
"See? You ARE able to learn the military might coupled with our allies is what allows us to ..."




and no one said we were - I said we could not - a point which you already agreed with.

So why personally insult someone whose points you so completely agree with? Is it because insult is just your default mode? You just insult first and read for comprehension later - if ever???

I simply point all this out so you'll understand why I neglect to engage in the pointless exercise of interaction with you. We obviously come to these boards for very different reasons. I hope you enjoy yourself.

The difference between you and I is, I figured this out 35 years ago in elementary school whereas you just had your epiphany. If you would take a lesson or 2 from the history of this great Nation you would realize that bullying and blustering has been alive and well in this nation for over 200 years. The difference between when it's used and when it's not used is up to the President at the time. Do we need allies 100% of the time...NOPE. We have sttod alone against many an enemy and WON!!!! Do we need diplomacy 100% of the time? NOPE. Many times diplomacy isn't called for. Action is and it takes a President with some balls to act. Let history judge him...not some 2 bit anti war ass clown who gets their talking points from Huffington.
Welcome to Politics 101.

Yet again you agree with the points I make but for some reason you need to create some little fantasy insults about my education and my news sources. We both KNOW that you have no clue about these things but you just can't seem to stop yourself from spewing hate-driven BS insults.

how sad

Oh...so what your saying now is you already knew the stuff you posted in your first post...but just put it up there in hopes of getting some pos rep from your fellow liberals...I see now.

Good plan!!!

 

[nodoginnafight]

Oh...so what your saying now is you already knew the stuff you posted in your first post...

Yes, I thought about the topic and arrived at these opinions BEFORE I wrote the post. Some parts of the opinion has been germinating for decades. Is this unusual to you? Do you normally post first and THEN try to find out the information or do you form your opinions AFTER you post them?

Interesting M.O. - explains a lot.