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Will Wade ever tire of looking foolish?
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Comrade said:
wade said:That is not the same thing. That is not people being fired, that is two figurehead retirements. Firings mean people responsible loosing retirement pay and other benefits making them very likely to sue or speak out if they feel wronged. What you are pointing to are two people who will get their benefits and who would likely loose them if they speak out.
No heads have rolled - that means firings not retirements which may not even be Iraq WMD related.
Comrade said:You don't have to be a political insider to understand that when the top two officials resign from the head of government agency for unspecified 'personal reasons', heads ARE rolling.
wade said:This is not what I meant. What I meant was that no analysts who provided the bad data have been fired for incompetance. There should have been a massive firing of such people. That is what normally happens.
Seeing these guys "retire" is just a couple of good o'le boys "taking one for the team". Neither one of them is going to speak out about how they did what they were told to do and have now been wrongly dismissed.
wade said:No contradiction at all. Read it again, it's totally consistant. We've been subjected to fabricated info and when this fact was exposed a couple of serimonial sheep were (maybe) sacrificed.
Which obviously means the long term analysts who generated the intel, what worth are they and why keep them on since they are obviously incompetant?
When there is a massive intelligence failure, the normal result is those involved are fired. This has not happened. The only explanation that makes sense to me is they did not really fail, they did what they were charged to do.
As for holding a position that is consistantly "Dem", well you have held a position that is consistantly "Rep". So what?
wade said:They didn't fail.. they (the intel analysts) provided the info requested - even if it was fabricated. This is why they are not being fired. No contradition in my argument at all.
wade said:They didn't fail.. they (the intel analysts) provided the info requested - even if it was fabricated. This is why they are not being fired. No contradition in my argument at all.
I don't think Bush meant it the way in which you are asking. I think Bush is glad there were no weapons, but wished our intelligence would have been correct.nakedemperor said:"I wasn't happy when we found out there wasn't weapons." -Dubya
Isn't the best-case scenario no weapons?
"They (the Iranians) are working now and investing a lot of billions of dollars in order to develop intercontinental ballistic missiles," said Steinitz, a former chairman of the Israeli parliament's foreign affairs and defense committee.
"And we estimate that in two to three years they will have the first intercontinental ballistic missiles that can reach the east coast of America. So their aim is to put a direct nuclear ballistic threat ... to Europe and to the United States of America," he said in English."