Zone1 What do we "owe" the Homeless?

[DGS49]

As the Smithfield shelter closure potentially pushes more to the street, advocates work to create a protective policy for unhoused people

Weekslong wait times for shelter, worries about being jailed for sleeping on the streets, the uncertainty of not knowing where to find your next meal or...

www.post-gazette.com

With the linked article, the local paper (we only have one) encourages us to be concerned about the changing circumstances of the local homeless community. One downtown shelter is closing down and the nearest alternative is a few blocks away. Incredibly one who is interviewed says that if things get any worse in Pittsburgh he might have to go elsewhere. Can we afford to lose that valuable asset?

There used to be an expression in common usage - "The Deserving Poor." The unfortunate implication is that there is another community to be addressed - the UNdeserving poor. Putting it succinctly, the undeserving poor are those for whom their wretched circumstance are thought to be caused by their own fault.

Consider which column the following people would be listed:

• Widows and orphans,
• the physically handicapped,
• crazy bastards,
• the mentally incompetent,
• substance abusers,
• people bankrupted by medical bills,
• people bankrupted by college loans to major in Ethnic or Gender Studies, and finally,
• people who are temporarily "down on their luck" (lost job, lost apartment, lost car, etc.),
• those who simply refuse to work, or to adopt Middle Class Values.

Is it even possible, I wonder to separate the two groups (deserving and otherwise) so that "we" can help the one group and tell the others to go and commit an impossible autosexual act?

As taxpayers, what do "we" owe these people, especially considering that 99% of them live in urban areas and are simply off the radar screen of anyone living outside The City?

 

[Rambunctious]

A prison cell and drug counseling and jobs training....

 

[DudleySmith]

When the Right does away with the limited liability scams for stock holders, bailouts for banks, bankruptcy court protections for themselves, and all the other handouts they get, then they can whine about the homeless and the 'less deserving'. They mooch more off the system than the homeless do, a lot more.

 

[Mac1958]

We don't "owe" them anything.

But we can choose to demonstrate empathy and compassion, and we can choose to try to help them.

Real Christians used to do that, as I recall. Not sure about that any more.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

What do we "owe" the Homeless?​

Do you subscribe to a religious faith?

 

[Rambunctious]

Do you subscribe to a religious faith?

Do you?...

 

[White 6]

As the Smithfield shelter closure potentially pushes more to the street, advocates work to create a protective policy for unhoused people

Weekslong wait times for shelter, worries about being jailed for sleeping on the streets, the uncertainty of not knowing where to find your next meal or...

www.post-gazette.com

With the linked article, the local paper (we only have one) encourages us to be concerned about the changing circumstances of the local homeless community. One downtown shelter is closing down and the nearest alternative is a few blocks away. Incredibly one who is interviewed says that if things get any worse in Pittsburgh he might have to go elsewhere. Can we afford to lose that valuable asset?

There used to be an expression in common usage - "The Deserving Poor." The unfortunate implication is that there is another community to be addressed - the UNdeserving poor. Putting it succinctly, the undeserving poor are those for whom their wretched circumstance are thought to be caused by their own fault.

Consider which column the following people would be listed:

• Widows and orphans,
• the physically handicapped,
• crazy bastards,
• the mentally incompetent,
• substance abusers,
• people bankrupted by medical bills,
• people bankrupted by college loans to major in Ethnic or Gender Studies, and finally,
• people who are temporarily "down on their luck" (lost job, lost apartment, lost car, etc.),
• those who simply refuse to work, or to adopt Middle Class Values.

Is it even possible, I wonder to separate the two groups (deserving and otherwise) so that "we" can help the one group and tell the others to go and commit an impossible autosexual act?

As taxpayers, what do "we" owe these people, especially considering that 99% of them live in urban areas and are simply off the radar screen of anyone living outside The City?

I don't live in a big city. Are most of these shelters tax payer funded?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Do you subscribe to a religious faith?

Pastafarians believe in noodles for all!

 

[Paleman]

When the Right does away with the limited liability scams for stock holders, bailouts for banks, bankruptcy court protections for themselves, and all the other handouts they get, then they can whine about the homeless and the 'less deserving'. They mooch more off the system than the homeless do, a lot more.

I think that Dudley has been and will continue to be a lifelong failure while blaming our capitalist system for all his shortcomings.

 

[shockedcanadian]

As the Smithfield shelter closure potentially pushes more to the street, advocates work to create a protective policy for unhoused people

Weekslong wait times for shelter, worries about being jailed for sleeping on the streets, the uncertainty of not knowing where to find your next meal or...

www.post-gazette.com

With the linked article, the local paper (we only have one) encourages us to be concerned about the changing circumstances of the local homeless community. One downtown shelter is closing down and the nearest alternative is a few blocks away. Incredibly one who is interviewed says that if things get any worse in Pittsburgh he might have to go elsewhere. Can we afford to lose that valuable asset?

There used to be an expression in common usage - "The Deserving Poor." The unfortunate implication is that there is another community to be addressed - the UNdeserving poor. Putting it succinctly, the undeserving poor are those for whom their wretched circumstance are thought to be caused by their own fault.

Consider which column the following people would be listed:

• Widows and orphans,
• the physically handicapped,
• crazy bastards,
• the mentally incompetent,
• substance abusers,
• people bankrupted by medical bills,
• people bankrupted by college loans to major in Ethnic or Gender Studies, and finally,
• people who are temporarily "down on their luck" (lost job, lost apartment, lost car, etc.),
• those who simply refuse to work, or to adopt Middle Class Values.

Is it even possible, I wonder to separate the two groups (deserving and otherwise) so that "we" can help the one group and tell the others to go and commit an impossible autosexual act?

As taxpayers, what do "we" owe these people, especially considering that 99% of them live in urban areas and are simply off the radar screen of anyone living outside The City?

How many petty theft "criminals" from 20 years prior can't get work because of a system that punished them perpetually? The West used to have Judeo-Christian beliefs of forgiveness and charity, now we've become sects of influence peddlers and special interests, often with Atheists and fake people of faith (jails, police agencies, politicians etc). In China, there are cases of teens who stole cars and accidentally ran over and killed someone and they eventually earned their freedom in society after apologizing publicly and reforming. That is China! How many "bad influencers" in the West have destroyed a person early in life without consequences? I can tell you that Canadian apparatuses feed off the under priviledged Some people in positions of authority are sick in the head and evil to their core and they wonder why the world is moving away from us....We are allowng abusers to detroy our communities.

 

[lg325]

What we owe them? Depends on your beliefs but also for the community at large it will make for a better community if those mentioned are helped to get their lives back to being independent and productive.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Do you?...

Why ask that of me?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

As the Smithfield shelter closure potentially pushes more to the street, advocates work to create a protective policy for unhoused people

Weekslong wait times for shelter, worries about being jailed for sleeping on the streets, the uncertainty of not knowing where to find your next meal or...

www.post-gazette.com

With the linked article, the local paper (we only have one) encourages us to be concerned about the changing circumstances of the local homeless community. One downtown shelter is closing down and the nearest alternative is a few blocks away. Incredibly one who is interviewed says that if things get any worse in Pittsburgh he might have to go elsewhere. Can we afford to lose that valuable asset?

There used to be an expression in common usage - "The Deserving Poor." The unfortunate implication is that there is another community to be addressed - the UNdeserving poor. Putting it succinctly, the undeserving poor are those for whom their wretched circumstance are thought to be caused by their own fault.

Consider which column the following people would be listed:

• Widows and orphans,
• the physically handicapped,
• crazy bastards,
• the mentally incompetent,
• substance abusers,
• people bankrupted by medical bills,
• people bankrupted by college loans to major in Ethnic or Gender Studies, and finally,
• people who are temporarily "down on their luck" (lost job, lost apartment, lost car, etc.),
• those who simply refuse to work, or to adopt Middle Class Values.

Is it even possible, I wonder to separate the two groups (deserving and otherwise) so that "we" can help the one group and tell the others to go and commit an impossible autosexual act?

As taxpayers, what do "we" owe these people, especially considering that 99% of them live in urban areas and are simply off the radar screen of anyone living outside The City?

again...

Do you subscribe to a religious faith?

 

[lg325]

I don't live in a big city. Are most of these shelters tax payer funded?

Not sure about Pittsburg the ones in my hometown are Christian run except for one.

 

[Michelle420]

I think mental health facilities to house them and mental health doctors to treat them.

Opportunities to reintegrate into society for those who are in a condition where they have the potential to function and work a job.

 

[DudleySmith]

I think that Dudley has been and will continue to be a lifelong failure while blaming our capitalist system for all his shortcomings.

Yes, parrot that silly projection, like the several million responses you parasites like to babble repeatedly. The fact is it is you who wouldn't have a pot to piss in without Big Daddy cradling you. The last thing you fakes want is a free market. You don't know shit about 'capitalist systems', you're just some fat ass Burb Brat squatter who snivels about nothing.

 

[DudleySmith]

How many petty theft "criminals" from 20 years prior can't get work because of a system that punished them perpetually? The West used to have Judeo-Christian beliefs of forgiveness and charity, now we've become sects of influence peddlers and special interests, often with Atheists and fake people of faith (jails, police agencies, politicians etc). In China, there are cases of teens who stole cars and accidentally ran over and killed someone and they eventually earned their freedom in society after apologizing publicly and reforming. That is China! How many "bad influencers" in the West have destroyed a person early in life without consequences? I can tell you that Canadian apparatuses feed off the under priviledged Some people in positions of authority are sick in the head and evil to their core and they wonder why the world is moving away from us....We are allowng abusers to detroy our communities.

How about the far more numerous homeless who live out of the cars and RV's or crash on somebody's couch, all of whom have jobs and do work?

 

[jackflash]

As the Smithfield shelter closure potentially pushes more to the street, advocates work to create a protective policy for unhoused people

Weekslong wait times for shelter, worries about being jailed for sleeping on the streets, the uncertainty of not knowing where to find your next meal or...

www.post-gazette.com

With the linked article, the local paper (we only have one) encourages us to be concerned about the changing circumstances of the local homeless community. One downtown shelter is closing down and the nearest alternative is a few blocks away. Incredibly one who is interviewed says that if things get any worse in Pittsburgh he might have to go elsewhere. Can we afford to lose that valuable asset?

There used to be an expression in common usage - "The Deserving Poor." The unfortunate implication is that there is another community to be addressed - the UNdeserving poor. Putting it succinctly, the undeserving poor are those for whom their wretched circumstance are thought to be caused by their own fault.

Consider which column the following people would be listed:

• Widows and orphans,
• the physically handicapped,
• crazy bastards,
• the mentally incompetent,
• substance abusers,
• people bankrupted by medical bills,
• people bankrupted by college loans to major in Ethnic or Gender Studies, and finally,
• people who are temporarily "down on their luck" (lost job, lost apartment, lost car, etc.),
• those who simply refuse to work, or to adopt Middle Class Values.

Is it even possible, I wonder to separate the two groups (deserving and otherwise) so that "we" can help the one group and tell the others to go and commit an impossible autosexual act?

As taxpayers, what do "we" owe these people, especially considering that 99% of them live in urban areas and are simply off the radar screen of anyone living outside The City?

A labor camp?

 

[Dadoalex]

As the Smithfield shelter closure potentially pushes more to the street, advocates work to create a protective policy for unhoused people

Weekslong wait times for shelter, worries about being jailed for sleeping on the streets, the uncertainty of not knowing where to find your next meal or...

www.post-gazette.com

With the linked article, the local paper (we only have one) encourages us to be concerned about the changing circumstances of the local homeless community. One downtown shelter is closing down and the nearest alternative is a few blocks away. Incredibly one who is interviewed says that if things get any worse in Pittsburgh he might have to go elsewhere. Can we afford to lose that valuable asset?

There used to be an expression in common usage - "The Deserving Poor." The unfortunate implication is that there is another community to be addressed - the UNdeserving poor. Putting it succinctly, the undeserving poor are those for whom their wretched circumstance are thought to be caused by their own fault.

Consider which column the following people would be listed:

• Widows and orphans,
• the physically handicapped,
• crazy bastards,
• the mentally incompetent,
• substance abusers,
• people bankrupted by medical bills,
• people bankrupted by college loans to major in Ethnic or Gender Studies, and finally,
• people who are temporarily "down on their luck" (lost job, lost apartment, lost car, etc.),
• those who simply refuse to work, or to adopt Middle Class Values.

Is it even possible, I wonder to separate the two groups (deserving and otherwise) so that "we" can help the one group and tell the others to go and commit an impossible autosexual act?

As taxpayers, what do "we" owe these people, especially considering that 99% of them live in urban areas and are simply off the radar screen of anyone living outside The City?

Why post this in religion?

If you are Christian I'm pretty sure the "Big Guy" commanded you to care for the downtrodden which would include the homeless.

This is, at best a political question, not a religious one since all religions teach caring for the poorest among us.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We don't "owe" them anything.

But we can choose to demonstrate empathy and compassion, and we can choose to try to help them.

Real Christians used to do that, as I recall. Not sure about that any more.

You are really only helping them be more comfortable in their chosen lifestyle. The empathy and compassion is all for you. It's so you can blossom in your self righteous do goodism.