Western Wildfires

[longknife]

 

[deannalw]

California on fire again?
I'm surprised there's anything left to burn

 

[koshergrl]

Yeah the USFS advertises and draws maps to national forest lands where the eclipse will be visible...

Then started prescribed burns in those areas.

They are literally trying to kill people.

The masses of criminals who have planted themselves in Malheur national forest have given the USFS to put armed patrols out there, and the fires that they started means they have hundreds of fire fighters.

They are already agitating to limit hiking now, based on the damage THEIR ACTIVITIES cause.

U.S. Forest Service proposes plan to limit hikers in Oregon

 

[deannalw]

Good grief!
When we lived there... I don't even know how many nasty fires the BLM started with their supposed "controlled" burns

 

[koshergrl]

Good grief!
When we lived there... I don't even know how many nasty fires the BLM started with their supposed "controlled" burns

Yup.

They won't let the ranchers use the land to feed their cattle...they won't let people log...they don't allow mills to be set up to process even the deadfall and slash.

So the slash piled up, and they pile it up, and then every summer they go through and torch it.

They burn up animals, live and dead stands, they destroy property, and people die every single year.

But we're the ones who are the problem.

Fuck that.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yeah the USFS advertises and draws maps to national forest lands where the eclipse will be visible...

Then started prescribed burns in those areas.

They are literally trying to kill people.

The masses of criminals who have planted themselves in Malheur national forest have given the USFS to put armed patrols out there, and the fires that they started means they have hundreds of fire fighters.

They are already agitating to limit hiking now, based on the damage THEIR ACTIVITIES cause.

U.S. Forest Service proposes plan to limit hikers in Oregon

Now Kosher, you are once again spreading lies.

U.S. Forest Service proposes plan to limit hikers in Oregon

SALEM -- The U.S. Forest Service is seeking to limit the number of hikers in Oregon's wilderness by requiring permits for popular areas.

The plan announced this month by Willamette and Deschutes national forests would require a permit to hike or backpack in the Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington, Three Sisters, Diamond Peak and Waldo Lake wilderness areas, The Statesman Journal reported.

The goal is to limit crowds and damage by restricting numbers, officials said. But it would also represent a fundamental change in a state that for the most part allows people to venture as they please on public lands.

Salem photographer Jeff Green said it's frustrating that overcrowding has reached this point, but it's time for permits.

"I feel user experience will vastly improve with less shoulder-to-shoulder crowds and all the human impact and garbage that comes with it," Green said.

Other people were concerned with the permit pricing of $6 to $12.

Who has to hire people to pick up the garbage that the people leave in these areas? $12 is not a lot to pay for a days or several days recreation. And there are plenty of areas you can hike on Forest Service and BLM land without having to pay anything.

 

[SSDD]

Who has to hire people to pick up the garbage that the people leave in these areas? $12 is not a lot to pay for a days or several days recreation. And there are plenty of areas you can hike on Forest Service and BLM land without having to pay anything.

Funny that you are worried about picking up garbage in this case...liberals leave a land fill wherever they go...why not complain about that?

 

[Old Rocks]

"Between 2000 and 2015," he writes, "an astonishing ten fire seasons saw more than a dozen so-called megafires ... burns of more than 100,000 acres. There have been four years in the last half century when more than 9 million acres have burned in the United States, and all of them have been since 2006."

So why are our wildfires so much bigger?

In 'Land on Fire,' author tracks the rise of mega-wildfires in the West

A common photo in the last decade are street signs discolored by retardent.

 

[SSDD]

"Between 2000 and 2015," he writes, "an astonishing ten fire seasons saw more than a dozen so-called megafires ... burns of more than 100,000 acres. There have been four years in the last half century when more than 9 million acres have burned in the United States, and all of them have been since 2006."

So why are our wildfires so much bigger?

In 'Land on Fire,' author tracks the rise of mega-wildfires in the West

A common photo in the last decade are street signs discolored by retardent.

Megafire is just a word...like naming winter storms...it is just one more trick in the hucksters big book of tricks...it fools the uneducated and gives wackos like you talking points.

 

[Old Rocks]

40 years ago when I was employed by the Forest Service we measured the fires in acres. Now a fire like that is not even mentioned, they are measured in square miles if the are worth mentioning. And I never saw the fire activity that I see today, such as fire tornadoes. Nor did we see planes dropping retardant in towns.

No, the denial of people like SSo DDumb of the fact we are having fires like we have not seen since we had modern equipment to fight the fires. And it will get worse as the weather warms.

 

[waltky]

Wildfire season out west...

Wildfires force children to flee from California summer camps
Sunday 9th July, 2017 - Wildfires have swept across wide areas of the western US and Canada, destroying homes, forcing thousands to flee and temporarily trapping children and staff at a California camp ground.

In northern California, a wildfire swept through grassy foothills in the Sierra Nevada and destroyed at least 10 structures and threatened more than 750 homes. The blaze about 60 miles north of Sacramento grew rapidly to more than seven square miles and was nearly 20% contained, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. "It made a huge run last night," fire spokeswoman Mary Ann Aldrich said. More homes were destroyed but fire officials have not had a chance to assess the damage. Instead, they were focused on protecting structures while battling the fire in hot, sometimes windy conditions. "It's far from out, we're going to be here for several days if not more," Ms Aldrich said.

The area burning was about 10 miles south of Oroville, where spillways in the nation's tallest dam began crumbling from heavy rains this winter and led to temporary evacuation orders for 200,000 residents downstream. Authorities said the fire sent hundreds of people fleeing from their homes. In southern California, residents and campers were sent scrambling as two fires exploded in size at separate ends of Santa Barbara County. Crews were getting a break from slightly cooler temperatures and diminishing winds on Sunday as they battled the pair of blazes that destroyed structures and closed a highway.

One of the fires grew to 12 square miles, traversing a mountain range and heading south towards coastal Goleta. "The plan is to hit it with air tankers to keep it from moving to the south and to the east," said county fire Captain Dave Zaniboni. "There's less heat and less wind, which makes things a little easier." There was minimal containment and flames shut down State Route 154, which is expected to remain closed for days. At least 20 structures burned. About 90 children and 50 counsellors were stuck on Saturday at the Circle V Ranch and had to take shelter until they could be safely evacuated.

Crews were also using an air attack against another blaze about 50 miles north that exploded in size to 37.5 square miles. About 200 rural homes east of Santa Maria were evacuated after the fire broke out on Saturday and was fed by dry gusts. In Colorado, firefighters built containment lines around about half the wildfire that forced the evacuation of hundreds of people near Breckenridge. The fire has not spread since it broke out on Wednesday and was still less than a square mile on Sunday. In rural Arizona, fire officials said three homes were among 10 buildings that were burned. The wildfire there has led to the evacuation of the entire town of Dudleyville, about 100 miles south east of Phoenix.

A wildfire burning near Summer Lake in south-central Oregon has destroyed a hunting cabin and an outbuilding. In Nevada, fire officials ordered evacuations for a wildfire near the area where another blaze has already burned for days. In Canada, firefighters were contending with more than 200 wildfires burning in British Columbia that had destroyed dozens of buildings, including several homes and two airport hangars. The three biggest fires, which ranged in size from five to eight square miles, had forced thousands of people to flee.

Wildfires force children to flee from California summer camp - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

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'No time to get scared:' Evacuees recount watching homes burn in B.C. wildfires
Sunday 9th July, 2017 - 'We just reacted. There was no time to think. None'

A seasoned British Columbia firefighter says he’s never seen anything like the fast-moving wildfire that tore through his new home, leaving him and his neighbours scant seconds to escape. Wilfred Duncan moved into his friend’s house on the Ashcroft Indian Reserve two weeks ago, only to watch the home burn down after the wildfire overwhelmed the community, destroying more than 30 buildings. Duncan is a retired forestry firefighter with 20 years of experience, but said the Ashcroft blaze was overwhelming. “There was no time to get scared,” he said, speaking outside the evacuation services centre in Kamloops on Saturday. “We just reacted. There was no time to think. None.”

The Ashcroft fire, about 100 kilometres west of Kamloops, ballooned Friday from seven to 40 square kilometres, prompting officials to order Ashcroft and then nearby Cache Creek to evacuate. “The way that was coming, there was no stopping it,” Duncan said. “We’re talking dry sagebrush, dry grass. What’s going to stop that? That’s just like lighting toilet paper on fire.” Duncan was on the front line of the Barriere wildfire in 2003, which is the last time the provincial government declared a B.C.-wide state of emergency because of fires, but he said it doesn’t compare to his experience in this disaster. “Maybe it’s different because here I was watching my friend’s home, my niece’s home burn,” he said, looking away as he blinked back tears. “What could we do but stand there and watch? Crying isn’t going to bring anything back.”

A wildfire burns on a mountain near Ashcroft, B.C., late Friday July 7, 2017. More than 3,000 residents have been evacuated from their homes in central British Columbia. A provincial state of emergency was declared after 56 new wildfires started Friday​

A thick, smoky haze hung over Kamloops on Saturday, making it difficult to see the dry, brush-covered hills on either side of the Thompson River Valley. Sharon Rene and her husband were still looking for accommodation as of Saturday afternoon after leaving their home in Cache Creek. Rene described watching from her house on Friday as the flames from various fires burned in the surrounding hills. “It was quite surreal. The smoke was this bright, evil-looking, orangey red,” she said. “It moved very quickly on the ridge behind us. We just watched the fire and the smoke going across, hoping it would keep on going. And then we went out the back door and there was another one going up the other hill to the airport.”

Angie Thorne, also a resident of the reserve in Ashcroft, said she and her husband managed to escape with their camper trailer before watching flames engulf their home of more than two decades. “The second trip in to get (my husband) out of there I drove through flames, got to him, told him to get out, then drove through flames to get back,” she said. The family lost a cat, but was later reunited with a black Labrador retriever, which Thorne said had been “scorched and seared.” Thorne said she is grateful her family is safe and for all the help they have received from the community, wiping away tears as she spoke outside the evacuation centre.

Gordon Davis, the centre’s manager, said more than 500 people had registered as of Friday. Some of those who signed in would have represented entire families, he added, describing the mood as anxious. “A lot of them watched their homes burn down,” he said, as workers in yellow vests raced around the overcrowded room. “A lot of them don’t know if their homes are still there. That not knowing is stressful.” Children huddled near their families with brightly coloured hula hoops and bubble-blowing kits. The toys, along with food and other supplies, were donations from local businesses and community members.

‘No time to get scared:’ Evacuees recount watching homes burn in B.C. wildfires

 

[bodecea]

Yeah the USFS advertises and draws maps to national forest lands where the eclipse will be visible...

Then started prescribed burns in those areas.

They are literally trying to kill people.

The masses of criminals who have planted themselves in Malheur national forest have given the USFS to put armed patrols out there, and the fires that they started means they have hundreds of fire fighters.

They are already agitating to limit hiking now, based on the damage THEIR ACTIVITIES cause.

U.S. Forest Service proposes plan to limit hikers in Oregon

 

[waltky]

Wildfire smoke may obscure eclipse...

Oregon Wildfire Causes Evacuations, Closes Roads in Prime Eclipse Zone
August 19, 2017 — Residents of more than 400 homes in a prime eclipse-viewing location in Oregon were ordered to evacuate Friday because of a rapidly growing wildfire that had already closed access to a portion of a wilderness area and a regional highway.

The late afternoon order threatened to create more tie-ups on rural and narrow roads already expected to be burdened with up to 200,000 visitors coming to the area from around the world to watch Monday’s total solar eclipse. About 1 million people are expected in Oregon, where the moon’s shadow first makes landfall in the continental U.S. The nearly 11-square-mile (28-square-kilometer) wildfire in the Deschutes National Forest was about six miles (9 kilometers) west of the town of Sisters, which sits on the southern edge of the 70-mile swath of Oregon where the moon will completely blot out the sun.

Regional roads closed

Sisters itself will experience 34 seconds of totality and is a popular tourist destination even without an eclipse brewing, but heavy smoke and the rapidly growing fire have prompted officials to close nearby campsites, recreational areas and roads. So far fire crews have not been able to contain any part of the wildfire and the McKenzie Pass Highway 242 has been closed between Highway 126 and Sisters, said Susie Heisey, a public information officer with Central Oregon Dispatch.

Wildfire burns in Willamette National Forest, Oregon. Elsewhere in the state wildfires have forced evacuations and closed roads near prime eclipse-viewing locations.​

The closures will likely have a big impact on people traveling through the region for the eclipse, she said, and the risk is high for more conflagrations in the area with so many campers. “There’s absolutely no campfires allowed and no burning allowed. So we’re just hoping that everyone that’s here to enjoy the eclipse” follows the rules, Heisey said. Nearly two dozen other fires are also burning in Oregon, including nine more in the best eclipse-viewing zone. Large portions of the Mount Jefferson Wilderness, in central Oregon’s Willamette National Forest, are also closed.

Montana and California fires

Elsewhere, fire officials in Montana ordered additional evacuations Friday night after earlier telling residents of 750 homes to flee a fire that jumped control lines in gusty winds. The 30-square-mile (76 square kilometer) blaze on forest land, southwest of the town of Lolo, was started by lightning in July but blew up late Wednesday.

Solar Eclipse Oregon​

Two homes burned Friday and several outbuildings burned late Thursday. Evacuations were in effect along the U.S. Highway 93 and U.S. Highway 12 corridors. The town of Florence was under an evacuation warning. In California, crews fighting a fire in Yosemite National Park were trying to guide the flames away from the small town of Wawona and into wilderness. The fire has closed campgrounds and trails in the park but authorities have not ordered anyone to leave. No structures have been damaged.

Oregon Wildfire Causes Evacuations, Closes Roads in Prime Eclipse Zone

 

[Old Rocks]

Here is a good source for the fires we are seeing this summer;

Regional Wildfire Map - Forest & Wildfire Map for Oregon, California, Washington, and Idaho | Fire, Weather & Avalanche Center

 

[skookerasbil]

Of all the ruse stuff from the alarmists, the forest fire stuff carries the greatest level of fake.

 

[Old Rocks]

So says the city boy that has never fought or saw one. 175 square miles of my favorite wilderness area devastated by one, and the three biggest towns in that whole county saved only by heroics on the part of the fire fighters. And we are now in another week of serious air pollution in Portland because of fires.

 

[ding]

Who has to hire people to pick up the garbage that the people leave in these areas? $12 is not a lot to pay for a days or several days recreation. And there are plenty of areas you can hike on Forest Service and BLM land without having to pay anything.

Funny that you are worried about picking up garbage in this case...liberals leave a land fill wherever they go...why not complain about that?

Wow! What filthy animals. Shocking.

 

[waltky]

Six dead, seven missing as California wildfire nears 90,000 acres...

Six dead, seven missing as California wildfire nears 90,000 acres
JULY 29, 2018 -- Six people people were killed and seven remain missing as a wildfire in Northern California that burned hundreds of structures grew to nearly 90,000 acres Sunday.

Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko said a sixth person died as a result of the Carr Fire, during an afternoon press conference. Bosenko didn't provide any further details about the victim, but said the case was under investigation.
He added seven people remained missing after nine had been found safe on Sunday. "We're finding that there are a lot of communication issues" making it hard to locate residents," Redding Police Sgt. Todd Cogle said, according to CNN. "We spoke with several people who left their cellphones at their residences and in this day and age people don't remember people's phone numbers."

The Carr Fire grew to 89,194 acres and remained at 5 percent containment, as 3,388 total fire personnel worked to combat the blaze that began on Monday, according to Cal Fire. "Extreme fire conditions continue to challenge firefighters last night," Cal Fire said. "Erratic winds and hot dry conditions resulted in greater growth and increased fire behavior during night operations."

Five people, including 70-year-old Melody Bledsoe and her two great-grandchildren, were confirmed dead Saturday after they had been missing since Thursday and three Marin County Fire Department firefighters were injured. Authorities have ordered many evacuations and closed dozens of roadways due to the fire. The blaze has also destroyed 517 structures and damaged 135 more. Cal Fire said 5,012 structures are threatened by the fire.

Several other wildfires burned throughout the state on Sunday, including the River Fire in Mendocino County, which has burned 11,028 acres and destroyed four residences and one outbuilding since it began on Friday. The Ranch Fire, which also started in Mendocino County on Friday, grew to 13,242 acres and was at 5 percent containment Sunday, Cal Fire said.

Six dead, seven missing as California wildfire nears 90,000 acres

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Unchecked Northern California Fire Claims Sixth Life
July 29, 2018 - The wildfire burning almost unchecked in Northern California has claimed it's sixth victim.

At a news conference Sunday, Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko said the victim, who was not identified, didn't evacuate despite receiving an evacuation warning. Other victims included two children and two firefighters. He said seven others are still missing in the Carr Fire near Redding, a city of 90,000 about 370 kilometers northeast of San Francisco.

The National Weather Service has predicted continued hot and dry conditions, with wind gusts expected late Sunday afternoon. "Right now, it's going everywhere. We still have a lot of open line,'' said Anthony Romero, a spokesman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

A firefighter surveys a wildfire-damaged neighborhood, Sunday, July 29, 2018, in Keswick, Calif.​

The fire has already forced tens of thousands to flee from their homes. Local officials estimate at least 517 structures have been destroyed and another 135 damaged -- a majority of them were homes. Keswick, a mountain town of about 450 people, was almost burned to the ground, officials said.


The Carr Fire is the largest fire burning in the state Sunday, threatening more than 5,000 structures. The fire is just 5 percent contained. Wildfires across California have forced more than 50,000 people from their homes, said Lynne Tolmachoff, a Cal Fire spokeswoman. About 12,000 firefighters are battling 17 significant fires, she said Sunday. "We are well ahead of the fire activity we saw last year,'' Tolmachoff said. "This is just July, so we're not even into the worst part of fire season.''

Unchecked Northern California Fire Claims Sixth Life

 

[skookerasbil]

Is it not hysterical that some on this thread imply we can actually do something about these fires....to stop them!Fascinating to thinking dynamic....fascinating!

 

[skookerasbil]

So says the city boy that has never fought or saw one. 175 square miles of my favorite wilderness area devastated by one, and the three biggest towns in that whole county saved only by heroics on the part of the fire fighters. And we are now in another week of serious air pollution in Portland because of fires.

Lol....I had to evacuate one of my group homes in the early 90's when fire torched our pine barrens out east. Got within 1/4 mile.... and guess what? 20 years later it's all grown back big and beautiful. Its called nature s0n.... it's what we're seeing out west. And there's not dick you or I can ever do about it if we fought 1,000 fires together. Wouldn't add up to ass. .... such banter is immaterial to the subject matter. You have no concept of the history of forest fires out west.... look it up..... go back to the 1800's when you're doing so. Some fires that would make the ones we're seeing look laughable . Let's stop the fakery that this is some kind of bizarre chain of events happening.

Find a way to put up a 10,000 foot wall along the west coast to stop the wind otherwise please stop with the mumbo-jumbo theoretical bulshit! Its ghey