Western Wildfires

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    California on fire again?
    I'm surprised there's anything left to burn
     
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    Yeah the USFS advertises and draws maps to national forest lands where the eclipse will be visible...

    Then started prescribed burns in those areas.

    They are literally trying to kill people.

    The masses of criminals who have planted themselves in Malheur national forest have given the USFS to put armed patrols out there, and the fires that they started means they have hundreds of fire fighters.

    They are already agitating to limit hiking now, based on the damage THEIR ACTIVITIES cause.

    U.S. Forest Service proposes plan to limit hikers in Oregon
     
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    Good grief!
    When we lived there... I don't even know how many nasty fires the BLM started with their supposed "controlled" burns
     
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    Yup.

    They won't let the ranchers use the land to feed their cattle...they won't let people log...they don't allow mills to be set up to process even the deadfall and slash.

    So the slash piled up, and they pile it up, and then every summer they go through and torch it.

    They burn up animals, live and dead stands, they destroy property, and people die every single year.

    But we're the ones who are the problem.

    Fuck that.
     
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    Now Kosher, you are once again spreading lies.

    U.S. Forest Service proposes plan to limit hikers in Oregon

    SALEM -- The U.S. Forest Service is seeking to limit the number of hikers in Oregon's wilderness by requiring permits for popular areas.

    The plan announced this month by Willamette and Deschutes national forests would require a permit to hike or backpack in the Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington, Three Sisters, Diamond Peak and Waldo Lake wilderness areas, The Statesman Journal reported.

    The goal is to limit crowds and damage by restricting numbers, officials said. But it would also represent a fundamental change in a state that for the most part allows people to venture as they please on public lands.

    Salem photographer Jeff Green said it's frustrating that overcrowding has reached this point, but it's time for permits.

    "I feel user experience will vastly improve with less shoulder-to-shoulder crowds and all the human impact and garbage that comes with it," Green said.

    Other people were concerned with the permit pricing of $6 to $12.

    Who has to hire people to pick up the garbage that the people leave in these areas? $12 is not a lot to pay for a days or several days recreation. And there are plenty of areas you can hike on Forest Service and BLM land without having to pay anything.
     
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    Funny that you are worried about picking up garbage in this case...liberals leave a land fill wherever they go...why not complain about that?

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    "Between 2000 and 2015," he writes, "an astonishing ten fire seasons saw more than a dozen so-called megafires ... burns of more than 100,000 acres. There have been four years in the last half century when more than 9 million acres have burned in the United States, and all of them have been since 2006."

    So why are our wildfires so much bigger?

    In 'Land on Fire,' author tracks the rise of mega-wildfires in the West

    A common photo in the last decade are street signs discolored by retardent.
     
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    Megafire is just a word...like naming winter storms...it is just one more trick in the hucksters big book of tricks...it fools the uneducated and gives wackos like you talking points.
     
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    40 years ago when I was employed by the Forest Service we measured the fires in acres. Now a fire like that is not even mentioned, they are measured in square miles if the are worth mentioning. And I never saw the fire activity that I see today, such as fire tornadoes. Nor did we see planes dropping retardant in towns.

    No, the denial of people like SSo DDumb of the fact we are having fires like we have not seen since we had modern equipment to fight the fires. And it will get worse as the weather warms.
     
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