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West Point grad and former secretary of Army describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads
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Yeah ......the Dem party is so Moral and JustThe more I analyze Trump's actions the more I feel he is driven by unethical, immoral motivations.
Christian beliefs are driven by ethics and morality. Most religions are driven by ethics and morality.
LOL
Puritans and pharisees is what they are.
Also note his mischaracterization of Christianity as an ethics system. Its what happens when God is abandoned by Puritans. You will find the ruling elite religion, if any, is always a godless ethical system of their own creation.
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In laymans terms that is the very definition of "draining the swamp"...it is never pretty for those who are being flushed, not the first time as a country we have done this either...last time was the 60's and 70's...that was even worse and a lot uglier“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
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A Christian follows rules and laws. Progs have thrown those away. We have two choices for leadership. The Democratic Party is not that anymore. It is Progressive Socialist that has thrown God out of the Party.I am a Christian. Any one who believes in God cannot support Trump without violating the tenets of their religion.West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
When I see this kind of fakery and this particular type headline along with this degree of disconenct from Americans....you know....the "lifelong republican sez".. the "he is one of you but with impressive credentials" fake headlines you people find so impressive in your talking points email...I have to ask. Are you a Christian? Just a curious thing I have noticed and am trying to confirm.
Unless they are devil worshippers.
watch them boo God at their convention.
I think you're getting twisted up with the religion.God is the one who judges in the end.You being a Christian then knows that we as Christians do not judge, we pray. God is the one who judges.I am a Christian. Any one who believes in God cannot support Trump without violating the tenets of their religion.West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
When I see this kind of fakery and this particular type headline along with this degree of disconenct from Americans....you know....the "lifelong republican sez".. the "he is one of you but with impressive credentials" fake headlines you people find so impressive in your talking points email...I have to ask. Are you a Christian? Just a curious thing I have noticed and am trying to confirm.
Unless they are devil worshippers.
But if you want to live your life as you feel God wants you, you have to make judgements.
So as a Christian, I do judge so as to make decisions on how I live my ife. But I am humble in keeping an open mind and constant analysis.
The more I analyze Trump's actions the more I feel he is driven by unethical, immoral motivations.
Christian beliefs are driven by ethics and morality. Most religions are driven by ethics and morality.
But, you need to read John 8:7 “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.”
Not sure just how pure you are.
Your opinion of Trump is just that, your opinion.
toobfreak
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The Post slipped up. The grad was actually referring to Obama.West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
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In laymans terms that is the very definition of "draining the swamp"...it is never pretty for those who are being flushed, not the first time as a country we have done this either...last time was the 60's and 70's...that was even worse and a lot uglier“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
As I said..totally lack self awareness. They are actually pointing out that Trump is doing what we asked him to do. That they trot out an elite oligarch of the ruling class to complain merely drives the point home.
They have no connection to the typical American and so cant grasp how this comes across.
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I do not associate with any party. I am an independent. I judge the candidate not the party. Trump and the Trump minions are not conservatives. They are a self serving cult.A Christian follows rules and laws. Progs have thrown those away. We have two choices for leadership. The Democratic Party is not that anymore. It is Progressive Socialist that has thrown God out of the Party.I am a Christian. Any one who believes in God cannot support Trump without violating the tenets of their religion.West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
When I see this kind of fakery and this particular type headline along with this degree of disconenct from Americans....you know....the "lifelong republican sez".. the "he is one of you but with impressive credentials" fake headlines you people find so impressive in your talking points email...I have to ask. Are you a Christian? Just a curious thing I have noticed and am trying to confirm.
Unless they are devil worshippers.
No party has ownership of morality and ethics. Their are immoral and unethical people of all political persuasions and religions There are, also, moral and ethical people of all political and religous persuasions. Politics is a lot like used car salesman. As a whole the entire industry is disgusting but there are still good people involved.
I feel it is impossible to be an advocate for a Trump Presidency and be moral and ethical.
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Our military and their leadership are elite oligarch of the ruling class? You are an idiot.In laymans terms that is the very definition of "draining the swamp"...it is never pretty for those who are being flushed, not the first time as a country we have done this either...last time was the 60's and 70's...that was even worse and a lot uglier“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
As I said..totally lack self awareness. They are actually pointing out that Trump is doing what we asked him to do. That they trot out an elite oligarch of the ruling class to complain merely drives the point home.
They have no connection to the typical American and so cant grasp how this comes across.
I apologize to all that have served for this clueless asshole.
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You do not consider Episcopalians Christian? Tell me who you feel are Christian religions?Episcopalian, a denomination started by Henry the VIII so he could get a divorce.I am a Christian. Any one who believes in God cannot support Trump without violating the tenets of their religion.West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
When I see this kind of fakery and this particular type headline along with this degree of disconenct from Americans....you know....the "lifelong republican sez".. the "he is one of you but with impressive credentials" fake headlines you people find so impressive in your talking points email...I have to ask. Are you a Christian? Just a curious thing I have noticed and am trying to confirm.
Unless they are devil worshippers.
Ahhh...which denomination?
When man get's involved with religion it is never perfect.
LOL Episcopalian! As I said..not a Chrisitan.
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West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
It is encouraging that so many honorable military personnel and never trumper republicans speak out against the toddler in chief
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West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
Oh no, they did not get to kill countless innocent people?
Cry me a river...
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You should not be living in the US. Our founding Father's key goal of our government is seperation of church and state. They all came from countries where the church was determined by the rulers. They wanted freedom of religion.Yeah ......the Dem party is so Moral and JustThe more I analyze Trump's actions the more I feel he is driven by unethical, immoral motivations.
Christian beliefs are driven by ethics and morality. Most religions are driven by ethics and morality.
LOL
Puritans and pharisees is what they are.
Also note his mischaracterization of Christianity as an ethics system. Its what happens when God is abandoned by Puritans. You will find the ruling elite religion, if any, is always a godless ethical system of their own creation.
If you want to live in a theocracy move to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq. Go start your own country with a Christian Theocracy for a government. Then you need to decide what interpretations of the Christian religion will rule.
I am confident God is shaking his head when he hears people like you.
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Don't these angry pathetic old soldiers and former swamp creatures take an oath not to criticize a sitting president? FDR would have had him shot.
I get it, you cannot function in the real world, it’s okay, your on the wrong side, takes a while to realize how far off you are from reality...
West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
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I agree. Finally, people are showing personal strength, by stepping forward and giving their opinion of Trump and concerns of what he is doing to our country.West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
It is encouraging that so many honorable military personnel and never trumper republicans speak out against the toddler in chief
Many are Trump appointees. Bolton's book will be interesting.
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We will see who is on the right side of history. I feel we will know sooner than later.I get it, you cannot function in the real world, it’s okay, your on the wrong side, takes a while to realize how far off you are from reality...
West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
Frankeneinstein
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He thumped you so good that you feel the need to apologize?Our military and their leadership are elite oligarch of the ruling class? You are an idiot.
I apologize to all that have served for this clueless asshole.
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That is a very weak comeback. You have to be able to do better than that.He thumped you so good that you feel the need to apologize?Our military and their leadership are elite oligarch of the ruling class? You are an idiot.
I apologize to all that have served for this clueless asshole.
I have noticed the Trump minions are not doing well in standing up for their messiah Donald Trump.
They give a couple attempts to stand up for Donald and then run away with their tail between their legs.
This post is a good example.
Exactly.West Point grad and former secretary of Army, Louis Caldera, describes Trump in letter to West Point 2020 grads.
“This president has destroyed the reputations and careers of countless public servants, ambassadors, military officers and civilian alike, demoralizing and depleting the ranks of government and reducing its effectiveness,” Caldera wrote. “To use and abuse people in this narcissistic and unprincipled manner is the antithesis of leadership that inspires loyalty and devotion among those you are privileged to lead.”
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