West Point Cadets Taught Patriots Are Terrorists

[Zarius]

The Earth Liberation Front are on the left. Should be be on the lookout for liberals in general to engage in terrorism?

Or do you like the broad brush to be applied to only one side?

There's no "broad brushing" going on. That only exists in your head, and the author of your Op-Ed.

Horseshit.

"Even more specifically, Perliger asserted that other so-called extremists fall into the categories of anti-federalists, fundamentalist Christians, survivalists, gun-rights advocates, libertarians, pro-lifers, and those who oppose high taxation."

According to this leftist whack-job, that's an awful lot of "extremists".

How about we teach West Pointers the basics of military leadership and leave the prog indoctrination out of it?

Because they are AMERICAN! Soldiers. Train your on damn Rebels. The Tea Party right are nothing but Confederate sympathizers. The USAs Armed forces should be trained daily to destroy them.

 

[Oldguy]

1914.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYNEFzhUnzo]Ludlow Massacre - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Zarius]

Your "cop mentality" training aside, most of our military have not been indoctrinated to be aggressive against US citizens. MPs are special. Sometimes an MP has to use force to protect a base against US citizens and/or has to deal with rogue brothers in arms. That perspective is not given to the rest of the military and your training if it did eventually result in force against a citizen is not the same as deploying battalion of infantry against civilians and you know it.

If you don't, well you got some damn shitty training. You were Army, right?

Most suppression of civilians by the military was probably carried out, not by MP's but by regular or national guard units. These are historical events that can be checked out. George Washington dealing with the Whiskey Rebellion was probably our first and Perhaps Kent State the last.

True, Kent State was a travesty. But there were no orders given to fire, some idiots got scared and didn't have the proper training. During the L.A. riots in 1992 there were no such events because the military changed their training.

Somehow I doubt the Tea Party righties would have shed a tear if the military would have leveled Watts..........Am I right guys.............am I?

 

[PoliticalChic]

These threads are always entertaining.

Are you claiming that there are no "terrorists" who consider themselves "patriots"?

I would go so far as to say that all terrorists consider themselves "patriots", or something comparable.

Something is wrong....the OP is one aspect.

Here is another:
"US ARMY TRAINING MATERIAL REFERS TO CATHOLICISM AS “RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM”
(UPDATED) US Army Training MATERIAL Refers to Catholicism as ?Religious Extremism? | CatholicVote.org


Is there a pattern?
Who is in charge?

Those damn liberals must be running the Army and West Point.

It seems you haven't noticed who the commander in chief is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your "cop mentality" training aside, most of our military have not been indoctrinated to be aggressive against US citizens. MPs are special. Sometimes an MP has to use force to protect a base against US citizens and/or has to deal with rogue brothers in arms. That perspective is not given to the rest of the military and your training if it did eventually result in force against a citizen is not the same as deploying battalion of infantry against civilians and you know it.

If you don't, well you got some damn shitty training. You were Army, right?

Most suppression of civilians by the military was probably carried out, not by MP's but by regular or national guard units. These are historical events that can be checked out. George Washington dealing with the Whiskey Rebellion was probably our first and Perhaps Kent State the last.

True, Kent State was a travesty. But there were no orders given to fire, some idiots got scared and didn't have the proper training. During the L.A. riots in 1992 there were no such events because the military changed their training.

1. Instructive of the movement is the new evidence released by the FBI as to the causes of the Kent State shootings of 1970. “Previously undisclosed FBI documents suggest that the Kent State antiwar protests were more meticulously planned than originally thought and that one or more gunshots may have been fired at embattled Ohio National Guardsmen before their killings of four students and woundings of at least nine others on that searing day in May 1970….Yet the declassified FBI files show the FBI already had developed credible evidence suggesting that there was indeed a sniper and that one or more shots may have been fired at the guardsmen first….And a memorandum sent to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover on May 19, 1970, referred to bullet holes found in a tree and a statue — evidence, the report stated, that “indicated that at least two shots had been fired at the National Guard.”
New light shed on Kent State killings - Washington Times


2. "KENT, Ohio -- A noisy, violent altercation and four pistol shots took place about 70 seconds before Ohio National Guardsmen opened fire on antiwar protesters at Kent State University, according to a new analysis of a 40-year-old audiotape of the event.
The discovery adds new perspective to -- and raises new questions about -- one of the signature events of the 20th century, after four decades of spirited discussion and research."
Kent State tape indicates altercation and pistol fire preceded National Guard shootings (audio) | cleveland.com

 

[Zona]

West Point Cadets Taught Patriots Are Terrorists

At West Point where cadets are groomed into officers, a new 148-page report released on January 15 is urging enlisted men and women to be on alert for “terrorists” in the form of those who consider themselves patriots.

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In his own words, Perliger placed a bulls-eye on those who “espouse strong convictions regarding the federal government, believing it to be corrupt and tyrannical, with a natural tendency to intrude on individuals’ civil and constitutional rights.”

Even more specifically, Perliger asserted that other so-called extremists fall into the categories of anti-federalists, fundamentalist Christians, survivalists, gun-rights advocates, libertarians, pro-lifers, and those who oppose high taxation.​

When progressives are done reshaping our military, even Monaco will be able to invade us.

Domestic terrorism is just as bad as any other form. Fuck them as well.

 

[Zona]

I read this entire thread.

Daveman is an ass. A dumb fucking Ass.

god bless.

 

[boedicca]

When the author can provide evidence of a nationwide Patriot network engaged in planning and executing terrorist attacks, then he might have a point.

Until then, the impact of Patriot gatherings is that they pick up the trash and leave the parks clean.

 

[whitehall]

Where do the fat asses in the Pentagon come up with this stuff? Army psychologists like Nadal Hasan?

 

[NoNukes]

Something is wrong....the OP is one aspect.

Here is another:
"US ARMY TRAINING MATERIAL REFERS TO CATHOLICISM AS “RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM”
(UPDATED) US Army Training MATERIAL Refers to Catholicism as ?Religious Extremism? | CatholicVote.org


Is there a pattern?
Who is in charge?

Those damn liberals must be running the Army and West Point.

There has been liberalism creeping into the military for years. Obviously.

Unless you'd like to make the case that the idiot Perliger is a conservative...?

Good luck with that.

When a way of thinking is right, even if it does not dominate, it is amazing where you will find it creeping in. The media is very liberal because journalists are educated and have been trained to think through their education.

 

[daveman]

Should I take that to mean that you don't know the difference?

I'll try to simplify it for you.

"3 is a number" isn't logically equivalent to "all numbers are 3".

I was right. You DON'T understand that West Point is not a suitable venue for prog brainwashing.

Y'know, if your side's views and opinions were acceptable, you wouldn't have to force them on people and lie about them. Just sayin'.

The "prog brainwashing" is a figment of your imagination. It's not reality, it's fantasy.

As I've pointed out, your op doesn't say what you claim it does. You keep trying to avoid that, but ignoring it won't make it go away.

And your claims are meaningless, based as they are on the lie that is progressivism.

Look, if you agree with the prog retard's claims, just say so.

 

[daveman]

I spent some time in the military police and some of our training included crowd control. We used rifles and bayonets in the training. Would we have fired if ordered, no question of it. I wonder if there has ever been a time when troops did not obey the order to fire?

Your "cop mentality" training aside, most of our military have not been indoctrinated to be aggressive against US citizens. MPs are special. Sometimes an MP has to use force to protect a base against US citizens and/or has to deal with rogue brothers in arms. That perspective is not given to the rest of the military and your training if it did eventually result in force against a citizen is not the same as deploying battalion of infantry against civilians and you know it.

If you don't, well you got some damn shitty training. You were Army, right?

I guess the "prog brainwashing" of the Army goes back a lot farther than anyone thought!

“There was some terrific fighting between the regulars and the insurgents; streets were swept again and again by grape, houses were stormed at the point of the bayonet, rioters were picked off by sharpshooters as they fired on the troops from housetops; men were hurled, dying or dead, into the streets by the thoroughly enraged soldiery; until at last, sullen and cowed and thoroughly whipped and beaten, the miserable wretches gave way at every point and confessed the power of the law.” —A New York diarist, recording the quelling of the New York draft riots by Union troops in July 1863.

Helluva a conspiracy, huh? 150 years of "prog brainwashing!"

I guess you can't tell the difference between military action against people who are actually doing something and a warning that military action might be necessary against people who haven't done anything except have and express opinions the government doesn't like.

Can you?

 

[daveman]

West Point Cadets Taught Patriots Are Terrorists

At West Point where cadets are groomed into officers, a new 148-page report released on January 15 is urging enlisted men and women to be on alert for “terrorists” in the form of those who consider themselves patriots.

--

In his own words, Perliger placed a bulls-eye on those who “espouse strong convictions regarding the federal government, believing it to be corrupt and tyrannical, with a natural tendency to intrude on individuals’ civil and constitutional rights.”

Even more specifically, Perliger asserted that other so-called extremists fall into the categories of anti-federalists, fundamentalist Christians, survivalists, gun-rights advocates, libertarians, pro-lifers, and those who oppose high taxation.​

When progressives are done reshaping our military, even Monaco will be able to invade us.

This no more than has been earned by the rightwing. All rightwing movement have lead to genocide and crimes against humanity. Good for the Army to be proactive for the first time in history.

What did you think would happen when you built stock piles and had those beer filled training sessions on the weekends. You trained for war. So get ready.

FORWARD

Wow. Way to completely rewrite history, there, Buttercup.

 

[daveman]

There's no "broad brushing" going on. That only exists in your head, and the author of your Op-Ed.

Horseshit.

"Even more specifically, Perliger asserted that other so-called extremists fall into the categories of anti-federalists, fundamentalist Christians, survivalists, gun-rights advocates, libertarians, pro-lifers, and those who oppose high taxation."

According to this leftist whack-job, that's an awful lot of "extremists".

How about we teach West Pointers the basics of military leadership and leave the prog indoctrination out of it?

Because they are AMERICAN! Soldiers. Train your on damn Rebels. The Tea Party right are nothing but Confederate sympathizers. The USAs Armed forces should be trained daily to destroy them.

Typical Prog, seeking to force his worldview on others with government violence.

If your ideas were worth a damn, people would agree with you voluntarily.

Progs never have been able to understand that.

 

[daveman]

Most suppression of civilians by the military was probably carried out, not by MP's but by regular or national guard units. These are historical events that can be checked out. George Washington dealing with the Whiskey Rebellion was probably our first and Perhaps Kent State the last.

True, Kent State was a travesty. But there were no orders given to fire, some idiots got scared and didn't have the proper training. During the L.A. riots in 1992 there were no such events because the military changed their training.

Somehow I doubt the Tea Party righties would have shed a tear if the military would have leveled Watts..........Am I right guys.............am I?

No.

 

[daveman]

West Point Cadets Taught Patriots Are Terrorists

At West Point where cadets are groomed into officers, a new 148-page report released on January 15 is urging enlisted men and women to be on alert for “terrorists” in the form of those who consider themselves patriots.

--

In his own words, Perliger placed a bulls-eye on those who “espouse strong convictions regarding the federal government, believing it to be corrupt and tyrannical, with a natural tendency to intrude on individuals’ civil and constitutional rights.”

Even more specifically, Perliger asserted that other so-called extremists fall into the categories of anti-federalists, fundamentalist Christians, survivalists, gun-rights advocates, libertarians, pro-lifers, and those who oppose high taxation.​

When progressives are done reshaping our military, even Monaco will be able to invade us.

Domestic terrorism is just as bad as any other form. Fuck them as well.

Hey, dumbass:

Disagreeing with Obama is NOT terrorism.

 

[daveman]

I read this entire thread.

Daveman is an ass. A dumb fucking Ass.

god bless.

You can read? Awesome!

Now you just need to work on comprehension.

But then, I think that may be beyond your capacity.

 

[daveman]

When the author can provide evidence of a nationwide Patriot network engaged in planning and executing terrorist attacks, the he might have a point.

Until then, the impact of Patriot gatherings is that they pick up the trash and leave the parks clean.

As we've seen in this thread, mindless boot-licking Obamabots believe that disagreeing with their little tin god is terrorism and should be met with lethal government force.

They'd have been right at home in 1938 Germany or 1917 Russia or 1975 Cambodia.

 

[daveman]

Those damn liberals must be running the Army and West Point.

There has been liberalism creeping into the military for years. Obviously.

Unless you'd like to make the case that the idiot Perliger is a conservative...?

Good luck with that.

When a way of thinking is right, even if it does not dominate, it is amazing where you will find it creeping in.

If it was right, it wouldn't HAVE to creep in. It would walk through the door and people would embrace it willingly and openly.

But progressivism? It has to be slipped into the water supply.

The media is very liberal because journalists are educated and have been trained to think through their education.

This utter nonsense deserves nothing but laughter and derision.

 

[Sunshine]

These threads are always entertaining.

Are you claiming that there are no "terrorists" who consider themselves "patriots"?

I would go so far as to say that all terrorists consider themselves "patriots", or something comparable.

The Sons, Daughters, and Children of the American Revolution?


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