Welfare

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What is the Role of Welfare

  1. A hand UP

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  2. A hand OUT

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  3. A Viscious Cycle that breeds dependency

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  4. Private Charities can do it better

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  5. Necessary to Civilization

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    Is government-run welfare really necessary?

    Can private charities do a better job of taking care of the less fortunate?

    Is it better to give a man a fish to hold him over until he can afford steak, or to teach him how to fish?
     
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    Welfare is the practice of paying a living wage to those who have chosen to do nothing as a career choice.
     
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    A Viscious Cycle that breeds dependency
     
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    You can't, unequivocally, say that all or even most welfare recipients are there by choice.
    I do, however, agree that there are SOME that choose that path.

    I'm just not jaded enough, towards the human race, to think that humans do not want to do for them selves.....to think that there is this large percentage out there that are out to get what's mine.

    Like I said, I know that there are "some".
    But that begs the question "Why?".

    What makes a person think that it's okay not to work and be productive, but rely on their roommate or their parents or, more relevant to this thread, their government for support?

    I understand that bad things happen to good people and sometimes they need a helping hand.

    But when do you finally give up trying to teach that guy to fish and leave his sorry ass on the bank by himself?
     
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    I think it's definitely a learned behavior.
    And I think that's part of the reason that there's such an increase in the "deserving" mentality we see running rampant.
     
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    Gubmint welfare isn't about the sainted pooooooooor...It's about the bureaucrats.

    After all, you abolish welfare and you put the parasites who feed the parasites out of a job, which causes higher unemployment. :rolleyes:
     
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    That's why I think private charities can do it better.

    When we create a bureaucracy who's sole function is to provide for the poor, it's in that bureaucracy's best interest (if they want to continue to be funded) to keep the flow of poor increasing.
     
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    There is no private charity in this country with the reach and financial backing to help as many people as the U.S. Government can and does.

    Is welfare necessary? Depends. Would you like a weaker economy and higher crime?
     
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    Bullshit.

    The federal gubmint has no backing without expropriating from we the people first.

    Straw man sophistry.
     
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    Name a charity that could do it better.

    Explain to us what happens when a man loses his job, can't provide for his family and gets no help. What would he do?
     

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