We Tried To Warn You, Libs...


Sweden, France, and the US are all prosperous and do not have

a) little to no income taxes
b) little to no govt regulation of business AND
c) little to no govt involvement in the economy

First of all , I find it odd that you are associating those 3 things with socialism when in fact Obama and his socialist plans encourage all 3 of those things

And I do not find it odd that you won't acknowledge I was right, and are now trying to change the subject. I find it boring. It's what you always do


No, it's not because showing that they are having economic problems right now does NOTHING to refute the fact that Sweden is a prosperous nation and has one of the highest living standards on the planet. France is also a prosperous nation. So is the US.
 
Mort Zuckerman: World Sees Obama as Incompetent and AmateurThe president is well-intentioned but can't walk the walk on the world stage

"The reviews of Obama's performance have been disappointing. He has seemed uncomfortable in the role of leading other nations, and often seems to suggest there is nothing special about America's role in the world. The global community was puzzled over the pictures of Obama bowing to some of the world's leaders and surprised by his gratuitous criticisms of and apologies for America's foreign policy under the previous administration of George W. Bush. One Middle East authority, Fouad Ajami, pointed out that Obama seems unaware that it is bad form and even a great moral lapse to speak ill of one's own tribe while in the lands of others.

Even in Britain, for decades our closest ally, the talk in the press—supported by polls—is about the end of the "special relationship" with America. French President Nicolas Sarkozy openly criticized Obama for months, including a direct attack on his policies at the United Nations. ... Vladimir Putin of Russia has publicly scorned a number of Obama's visions.

As the former president of the Council on Foreign Relations, Les Gelb, put it, there is "the impression that Obama might confuse speeches with policy." ... unable to budge any Arab leader.

Strategic decisions go well beyond being smart, which Obama certainly is. They must be based on experience that discerns what works, what doesn't—and why. This requires experienced staffing, which Obama and his top appointees simply do not seem to have.

...a critical mass of influential people in world affairs who once held high hopes for the president have begun to wonder whether they misjudged the man. They are no longer dazzled by his rock star personality and there is a sense that there is something amateurish and even incompetent about how Obama is managing U.S. power."
Mort Zuckerman: World Sees Obama as Incompetent and Amateur - US News and World Report


Well, are you ready to apologize, and return to reality? I see signs of it...

"Well, are you ready to apologize, and return to reality?"


No.

I didn't vote for Obama because I thought he was the savior.

I FIRMLY oppose todays modern hatefilled vitriolic conservative

and

since it was todays modern hatefilled vitriolic conservative who were mccains base I had no choice but to vote for obama.

Obama being a disappointment as president does NOT make me change my ideals and beliefs....

I owe you no apology

Conservatives are hate filled? Sure you can call it hate that is if you can call those who support obama and obama himself the same. Or have you noticed that obama was a member of a hate filled church. I guess you haven't seen union thugs beat up on anyone that voices their opinion against obama. I guess you never heard obama say when they hit we will hit harder. I guess you didn't hear about N.C. Rep. Bob Etheridge attacking a college kid, because the college kid asked Etheridge if he support the obama agenda. Our hate is warranted and called for.
 
Sweden is up to their eyeballs in debt as evidenced by the link I gave, that is exactly the opposite of prosperous.
Your source says that Sweden has a $10.6 Billion deficit this year.
Compared to the US, it's peanuts.

Compared to our population theirs is peanuts as well. Give them 350M people to take care of and they would be 10 Trillion Euros in debt.

Its GDP is $331 Billion.....its debt is less than 4% of GDP...:cool:
 
Your source says that Sweden has a $10.6 Billion deficit this year.
Compared to the US, it's peanuts.

Compared to our population theirs is peanuts as well. Give them 350M people to take care of and they would be 10 Trillion Euros in debt.

Its GDP is $331 Billion.....its debt is less than 4% of GDP...:cool:

They also have a tax rate that is 47.8% of GDP. I don't want to pay half my income in taxes.
 
I'm fairly happy with my society thanks

And they are with their's and I am with mine (shrug)....

Then they can keep theirs, you can keep yours, and Obama can stop trying to turn us into them. I certainly don't blame you if you don't want to become us.

Just out of curiosity, where are you?

In Australia. However, am NZ born and bred and lived there most of my life...

Where in the US are you?
 
And they are with their's and I am with mine (shrug)....

Then they can keep theirs, you can keep yours, and Obama can stop trying to turn us into them. I certainly don't blame you if you don't want to become us.

Just out of curiosity, where are you?

In Australia. However, am NZ born and bred and lived there most of my life...

Where in the US are you?

I'm in Arkansas. Always wanted to go to Australia, it is a beautiful country from what I've seen.
 
I'm in Arkansas. Always wanted to go to Australia, it is a beautiful country from what I've seen.

You must have been happy who was in the Oval office from 1993 to 2001 (sarcasm)...

Lots of hot springs in Arkansas from what I've read up on the place - bit like NZ.

Aussie is OK. I like Aussies, and there is a tonne of beautiful stuff here. Still not home though!
 
I'm in Arkansas. Always wanted to go to Australia, it is a beautiful country from what I've seen.

You must have been happy who was in the Oval office from 1993 to 2001 (sarcasm)...

Lots of hot springs in Arkansas from what I've read up on the place - bit like NZ.

Aussie is OK. I like Aussies, and there is a tonne of beautiful stuff here. Still not home though!

Eh, I was generally happy with Clinton, just couldn't keep his dick in his pants. Yes we have several springs. I live in the Ozark mountains . Beautiful here and I have no desire to live elsewhere, but love to visit places. Going to Alaska next year on a cruise, that should be fun.
 
Eh, I was generally happy with Clinton, just couldn't keep his dick in his pants. Yes we have several springs. I live in the Ozark mountains . Beautiful here and I have no desire to live elsewhere, but love to visit places. Going to Alaska next year on a cruise, that should be fun.

I liked Clinton too. Very charasmatic, but a womaniser. Then again, look at Hills. Not exactly an oil painting..

Ozarks are supposed to be lovely. Don't blame you for not wanting to move...

Alaska looks cool, too..

Heading off now..

Have a good day...
 
Eh, I was generally happy with Clinton, just couldn't keep his dick in his pants. Yes we have several springs. I live in the Ozark mountains . Beautiful here and I have no desire to live elsewhere, but love to visit places. Going to Alaska next year on a cruise, that should be fun.

I liked Clinton too. Very charasmatic, but a womaniser. Then again, look at Hills. Not exactly an oil painting..

Ozarks are supposed to be lovely. Don't blame you for not wanting to move...

Alaska looks cool, too..

Heading off now..

Have a good day...

Have a good day yourself. Good debating with you.
 
Compared to our population theirs is peanuts as well. Give them 350M people to take care of and they would be 10 Trillion Euros in debt.

Its GDP is $331 Billion.....its debt is less than 4% of GDP...:cool:

They also have a tax rate that is 47.8% of GDP. I don't want to pay half my income in taxes.

Umm, did you forget what we were talking about, or are you just taking advantage of other people's posts to change the subject

We were discussing whether Sweden (and France and the US) have socialist type economies and are prosperous. Remember?

The fact is that Swedens' population is one of the richest in the world. Sure, they have some debts, but so does Bill Gates. Looking at debt alone to determine wealth demonstrates conjobs lack of knowledge

The accounting formula to determine one's capital is "Capital = Assets minus Liabilities". conjob is too stupid to handle such a complex formula. He can only handle the debt #. He's too dumb to see what their assets are worth

And even dumber, conjob has now pointed out that Sweden has a high tax rate, as if that is supposed to show that Sweden is NOT socialistic:cuckoo:

Let's review. Sweden has

1) High income taxes? Check!
2) Lots of business regulation? Check!
3) Lots of govt involvement in the economy? Check!
4) Prosperity? Check!

Obviously, Sweden is a properous nation with a socialistic economy. I was right. You were wrong

Not that you'll ever admit it
 

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