"We need to redistribute wealth among Americans" WTF...why does this always sound so retarded to me?

[Conservative65]

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

How about people pay for their own education, healthcare, and retirement like the responsible people do?

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Trusting government has proven to be a disaster every time

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

How about our debt and social security and medicare and tax code ....

What about it?

The national debt is not an issue?


How much debt do you carry?

I carry more debt than my annual income

Guess what?

I pay less than four percent interest on my debt. Allows me to afford two houses

More debt than your annual income is better than most - think house prices.

And interest rates have always been and always have been at these levels.

If leftists hero Jimmy Carter were in office what would your interest rate be?


How much of your debt do plan to impose on future generations?


Ever studied economics or finance?

 

[rightwinger]

Trusting government has proven to be a disaster every time

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

How about our debt and social security and medicare and tax code ....

What about it?

The national debt is not an issue?


How much debt do you carry?

In 1916, before income tax, the American debt was than 200.00 per American. Thats in today's dollars at that. After a century of income tax the per capita debt for Americans is 60,470 dollars.
Hmmm...you think income tax may be corrosive to a countrys morals, economics and family well being?

Americans lived in poverty before 1916 and died in their fifties

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

How about people pay for their own education, healthcare, and retirement like the responsible people do?

I think that is America 101?

 

[rightwinger]

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

How about people pay for their own education, healthcare, and retirement like the responsible people do?

That's called anarchy

 

[DOTR]

By the way while we note the empty shelves and starvation of people under socialists in Venezuela...

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Let us not pretend capitalism doesn't come with it's own set of problems.

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Have you ever noticed that the overwhelming percentage of Obese Buffaloes are Liberals?
I have always found that interesting. And these whales have the nerve to complain about Obamacare that they don't even have to pay for?

STFU Lefty!

And what is worse is that they have the Government EBT card that is supposed to give them healthy food, but they load up with Oreos, and other junk food munching on it, even before they get to the cashier. It is the liberal plan to have people die, whether it is by war or by self suicide. This is the liberals way to save the world from Global Warming(NWO).

Used to not be the case but since Obama that has changed. I was in the store down the road once and a family pulled in with their huge boat for day offshore. Their kids came in and loaded up on chips and cokes with the mothers EBT card. And Icees. I told the Arab behind the counter "they cant buy snacks and junk with food stamps" and he said "oh yes they can buy everything in this store but beer, cigarettes, oil and gas with that card".
I was shocked. But its true. It is no longer only unprepared foods.

 

[2aguy]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Notice...the ones who say the wealth should be redistributed are the ones who plan on distributing that wealth....into their own pockets....without the courtesy of using the gun to take it themselves.....

Not really
Wealthy Democrats like Pelosi vote repeatedly to raise their own taxes

Wealthy Republicans vote to slash benefits to the poor

No dumb shit...they don't. They have their money protected, they don't raise their own taxes one penny.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

How about our debt and social security and medicare and tax code ....

What about it?

The national debt is not an issue?


How much debt do you carry?

In 1916, before income tax, the American debt was than 200.00 per American. Thats in today's dollars at that. After a century of income tax the per capita debt for Americans is 60,470 dollars.
Hmmm...you think income tax may be corrosive to a countrys morals, economics and family well being?

Americans lived in poverty before 1916 and died in their fifties

and that is related to national debt how?

More time to live beyond our means and rack up unsustainable / repayable debt to pass on to your children and grandchildren.

 

[rightwinger]

For working Americans it was a disaster. Stagnant wages and overall loss of family wealth

Explain the mechanism by which "supply side" stagnated wages please.

Increased wealth does not trickle down

Who would have thought rich people would just keep the extra money

 

[DOTR]

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

Sure buffoons like yourself and billionaires would love that. Buffett has a salary of less than 100,000 for example. Of course the billions in stock ensure the ready availability of every need he has. Bill gates keeps his salary at 901,000 or under every year LINK . Funny he became worth 49 billion in the meantime. Hollyweirdos get paid with "Hollywood accounting"

Hollywood accounting - Wikipedia

Income tax is used to seize the profits of workers and ensure they dont rise too high for their britches. It leverages the basic greed of your type and uses it to keep the government gravy train rolling.

That's why I want to tax capital gains the same as income

No it isnt. The reason is simply greed, envy and laziness.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

How about people pay for their own education, healthcare, and retirement like the responsible people do?

That's called anarchy

So I am an anarchists then?

Who knew.

You do need education.
Public schooled?

 

[rightwinger]

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

How about our debt and social security and medicare and tax code ....

What about it?

The national debt is not an issue?


How much debt do you carry?

I carry more debt than my annual income

Guess what?

I pay less than four percent interest on my debt. Allows me to afford two houses

More debt than your annual income is better than most - think house prices.

And interest rates have always been and always have been at these levels.

If leftists hero Jimmy Carter were in office what would your interest rate be?


How much of your debt do plan to impose on future generations?


Ever studied economics or finance?

I remember mortgage rates over fifteen percent.
My first mortgage was twelve percent

Jimmy Carter did not set interest rates but he had a balanced budget

 

[rightwinger]

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

How about people pay for their own education, healthcare, and retirement like the responsible people do?

That's called anarchy

So I am an anarchists then?

Who knew.

You do need education.
Public schooled?

Seems that way if you oppose free public education

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

How about our debt and social security and medicare and tax code ....

What about it?

The national debt is not an issue?


How much debt do you carry?

I carry more debt than my annual income

Guess what?

I pay less than four percent interest on my debt. Allows me to afford two houses

More debt than your annual income is better than most - think house prices.

And interest rates have always been and always have been at these levels.

If leftists hero Jimmy Carter were in office what would your interest rate be?


How much of your debt do plan to impose on future generations?


Ever studied economics or finance?

I remember mortgage rates over fifteen percent.
My first mortgage was twelve percent

Jimmy Carter did not set interest rates but he had a balanced budget

I am done until you answer my other questions.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

How about people pay for their own education, healthcare, and retirement like the responsible people do?

That's called anarchy

So I am an anarchists then?

Who knew.

You do need education.
Public schooled?

Seems that way if you oppose free public education

I am done until you answer my other questions.

Avoiding the hard truths in life - just like politicians.

 

[rightwinger]

How about our debt and social security and medicare and tax code ....

What about it?

The national debt is not an issue?


How much debt do you carry?

In 1916, before income tax, the American debt was than 200.00 per American. Thats in today's dollars at that. After a century of income tax the per capita debt for Americans is 60,470 dollars.
Hmmm...you think income tax may be corrosive to a countrys morals, economics and family well being?

Americans lived in poverty before 1916 and died in their fifties

and that is related to national debt how?

More time to live beyond our means and rack up unsustainable / repayable debt to pass on to your children and grandchildren.

Sad

Before Reagan people used to pass wealth onto their children

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

What about it?

The national debt is not an issue?


How much debt do you carry?

In 1916, before income tax, the American debt was than 200.00 per American. Thats in today's dollars at that. After a century of income tax the per capita debt for Americans is 60,470 dollars.
Hmmm...you think income tax may be corrosive to a countrys morals, economics and family well being?

Americans lived in poverty before 1916 and died in their fifties

and that is related to national debt how?

More time to live beyond our means and rack up unsustainable / repayable debt to pass on to your children and grandchildren.

Sad

Before Reagan people used to pass wealth onto their children

link?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Just remember this when the libtards start bitching that there isn't enough money for the poor.

The War on Poverty has cost $22 trillion -- three times more than what the government has spent on all wars in American history. Federal and state governments spend $1 trillion in taxpayer dollars on America's 80 means-tested welfare programs annually.

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion - NCPA
www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=25288

Let's audit the drug war or the poverty war, instead of the Fed. How much of that spending should be under the common defense? Our "wars on crime, drugs, and terror" should be under defense spending.

How many times have you been busted

at least once. just a waste of the (other) Peoples' tax monies.

But clearly not objective and it shows.

disclaimer - I am no drug war supporter.

No; but, Only the One Percent, "shirk their civic duty".

/---/ how much does the one percent pay in taxes vs what you think they should pay?

 

[Conservative65]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Corporate welfare. For example, Walton's are very rich while paying very little to employees. So little that employees also collect welfare. So tax payers supplement the wages for the billionaire Walton's.

No such thing.

They pay they're employees what the skills required to do those jobs are worth. If those employees collect welfare, it's their fault for not having better skills. That should stop. Taxpayers supplement the skill equivalent wages of people whose skills are so low they can't do even the basic things in life.

If one has a $5/hour set of skills, paying them $5/hour is fine. If that isn't enough to live on, improve your skills.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

End the drug war, right wingers.

And, capitalism is about ability to pay. Only the right wing never gets, due to all of their socialism on a national basis.

/---/ Why? Is the war on drugs hampering your ability to make money?