We need to have policy discussions based on the facts.

[berg80]

Almost 9 out of 10 pounds of fentanyl are smuggled in by citizens, not immigrants
Almost 9 out of 10 pounds of fentanyl are smuggled in by citizens, not immigrants

Beliefs to the contrary are the result of purposeful misinformation. I suspect because Repubs want to demonize immigrants while refusing to engage in policy reform discussion because they have effectively wrapped the immigration crisis around the necks of Dems. All the while bearing responsibility unaccounted for due to their intransigence on entering in to a debate on compromise reform legislation.

 

[1srelluc]

OK, so they are dems doing the smuggling. Easy peasy.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Illegals are illegal. Doesn't matter

Send them back

 

[Dragonlady]

Almost 9 out of 10 pounds of fentanyl are smuggled in by citizens, not immigrants
Almost 9 out of 10 pounds of fentanyl are smuggled in by citizens, not immigrants

Beliefs to the contrary are the result of purposeful misinformation. I suspect because Repubs want to demonize immigrants while refusing to engage in policy reform discussion because they have effectively wrapped the immigration crisis around the necks of Dems. All the while bearing responsibility unaccounted for due to their intransigence on entering in to a debate on compromise reform legislation.

This is true of all of the wedge issues Republicans use. They completely misrepresent the problem and the causes of the problem, offer no solutions and blame Democrats.

They don't want solutions because immigration is an effective and reliable vote getting issues. Republicans don't really want to solve problems at all.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

This is true of all of the wedge issues Republicans use. They completely misrepresent the problem and the causes of the problem, offer no solutions and blame Democrats.

They don't want solutions because immigration is an effective and reliable vote getting issues. Republicans don't really want to solve problems at all.

Canada should take in all the illegals....agreed?

Watches dragoon scamper off

 

[berg80]

Illegals are illegal. Doesn't matter

Send them back

You have perfectly incapsulated the debate strategy of many conservatives. Deflect, deny, ignore, duck and cover.

According to the data from 2020 to 2023, for all drugs, nearly 8 out of 10 pounds (78 percent) were seized at ports of entry. Looking at only fentanyl seizures, it’s even more, almost 9 out of 10 pounds (88 percent) were seized at ports of entry. Drugs overwhelmingly come through the ports of entry. Migrants don’t carry them in during their desert crossings.

Dem reform policy has consistently focused on ports of entry as a point of emphasis in combating drug trafficking while Repubs seem intent on building an ineffectual wall.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You have perfectly incapsulated the debate strategy of many conservatives. Deflect, deny, ignore, duck and cover.

According to the data from 2020 to 2023, for all drugs, nearly 8 out of 10 pounds (78 percent) were seized at ports of entry. Looking at only fentanyl seizures, it’s even more, almost 9 out of 10 pounds (88 percent) were seized at ports of entry. Drugs overwhelmingly come through the ports of entry. Migrants don’t carry them in during their desert crossings.

Dem reform policy has consistently focused on ports of entry as a point of emphasis in combating drug trafficking while Repubs seem intent on building an ineffectual wall.

I'm not deflecting, they're here illegally...send them back

Chomp on that

 

[berg80]

This is true of all of the wedge issues Republicans use. They completely misrepresent the problem and the causes of the problem, offer no solutions and blame Democrats.

They don't want solutions because immigration is an effective and reliable vote getting issues. Republicans don't really want to solve problems at all.

Exactly. As I have pointed out a few times, reform policy actually passed in the Senate in 2013 on a bipartisan basis. Then John Boehner let the bill die in the House, refusing to bring it to the floor for a vote. Why? Because it contained a path to citizenship for qualified applicants.

 

[candycorn]

Conservatives have bastardized the news landscape to the point to where they enjoy their own sets of facts. They are not true (for the most part) but that doesn’t stop them from believing it.

My big question is why the powers-that-be on this board continues to allow it.

Any OP that runs counter to these three truths should be moved to the basement.

• Covid vaccines are not poison. They have saved hundreds of millions of lives.
• The 2020 election was not stolen. It has been investigated multiple times. Trump Lost.
• There is no deep state. Bureaucrats of all political stripes work hard to protect their jobs. Forgive them if they aren’t thinking about the grand wishes of the founding fathers; they were hired by Department X to do a job.

I guess having all three in play helps mouse-clicks.

 

[surada]

Illegals are illegal. Doesn't matter

Send them back

Obama sent more illegals back than any other president.

 

[berg80]

I'm not deflecting, they're here illegally...send them back

Chomp on that

In other words you are aligned with Biden's policy. Well, that's a start.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Obama sent more illegals back than any other president.

Oh shut up and go disagree with someone ya annoying toad

 

[berg80]

Obama sent more illegals back than any other president.

Right behind the Big Lie is the "open borders" lie Repubs repeat endlessly.

 

[Auld Phart]

Almost 9 out of 10 pounds of fentanyl are smuggled in by citizens, not immigrants
Almost 9 out of 10 pounds of fentanyl are smuggled in by citizens, not immigrants

Beliefs to the contrary are the result of purposeful misinformation. I suspect because Repubs want to demonize immigrants while refusing to engage in policy reform discussion because they have effectively wrapped the immigration crisis around the necks of Dems. All the while bearing responsibility unaccounted for due to their intransigence on entering in to a debate on compromise reform legislation.

who's facts?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Right behind the Big Lie is the "open borders" lie Repubs repeat endlessly.

You and the old hag are woefully ill informed

 

[berg80]

who's facts?

Customs and Border Protection's data.

 

[berg80]

You and the old hag are woefully ill informed

Opinion | The GOP's myth of an 'open border'

The U.S. borders are guarded by a vast and well-funded national security agency that has grown far larger and more powerful in recent years.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Opinion | The GOP's myth of an 'open border'

The U.S. borders are guarded by a vast and well-funded national security agency that has grown far larger and more powerful in recent years.

www.nbcnews.com

I'm not likely to take an opinion from NBC seriously

 

[shockedcanadian]

This is true of all of the wedge issues Republicans use. They completely misrepresent the problem and the causes of the problem, offer no solutions and blame Democrats.

They don't want solutions because immigration is an effective and reliable vote getting issues. Republicans don't really want to solve problems at all.

What is it about the vast distinction between legal and illegal immigration that has you so perplexed and confused?

 

[MinTrut]

This is true of all of the wedge issues Republicans use. They completely misrepresent the problem and the causes of the problem, offer no solutions and blame Democrats.

They don't want solutions because immigration is an effective and reliable vote getting issues. Republicans don't really want to solve problems at all.

Yes.

But both parties are murderous criminal gangs.