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This board would be significantly more interesting if posters would put more effort into presenting their ideas and opinions with brevity and clarity, and without cutting and pasting the ideas and opinions of others (or, just those who agree with them) to make a point.
Y'know?
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This board would be significantly more interesting IF some educated right winger would try and dispute with factual evidence the information posted by Dad23.
Maybe you could take that task on Mac. By using fact instead of your opinions. Facts are what they are. Opinions are like.........well everybody's got an opinion. Some are not so good, some are ok some stink like shit.
But a fact is a fact. Matter of fact, there needs to be more "fact" based discussion and a whole lot less of "opinion" discussion.
If people want this site to be significantly more interesting.
First of all, I adamantly oppose the unhinged libertarian ideology. The fact that you scream "libertarian" and "wingnutter" when faced with facts that are inconvenient for you and in direct conflict with your blind ideology speaks volumes.Nothing like ignoring facts for propaganda. $3 trillion. It's absolutely unfathomable and completely outrageous. I could easily run the federal government off of $1 trillion while paying down the national debt at the same time.Nothing like ignoring the fact that as a percentage of GDP, revenues are still significantly lower than they have been for the vast majority of the past 60 years.
Weird there is NO state or nation to EVER try the libertarian garbage at ANYTIME successfully right?
$1.5+ trillion on SS (keeps almost half of seniors out of poverty) and Medicare in 2013. $1 trillion huh? lol
Wingnutter
Second, and much more importantly, the U.S. went from a fledgling colony to the world's premier super power over approximately 130 years through pure, unadulterated conservatism. We did not see the cancer known as liberalism/progressivism until roughly the early 1900's. And the only reason the U.S. has been able to withstand the ignorant liberal "spread the wealth" marxism/communism that completely collapsed other nations such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and the former U.S.S.R. is because we still manage to inject healthy doses of conservative policy (such as the Reagan tax cuts, the Reagan de-regulations, the Bush tax cuts, etc.). But sadly, all of that ignorant liberal policy has us $17 trillion in debt and climbing so I'm not sure how much longer we can hold on.
The facts are indisputable. A staggering $3 trillion in revenues to the federal government - the highest ever. And still the Obama Administration ran up half a trillion in debt. As always, history proves that the left's entire ideology is a failed ideology. Game. Set. Match. You lose junior.
I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
In other words you prefer right wing OPINIONS instead of actual FACTS backed by credible cites. Got it
"In other words..."
You know you're going to get a straw man when a partisan ideologue begins with that one.
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Sorry Bubba, I responded to the strawman
To what straw man were you responding...Bubba?
Evidently you don't know what the term means, but give it a shot anyway.
.In other words you prefer right wing OPINIONS instead of actual FACTS backed by credible cites. Got it
"In other words..."
You know you're going to get a straw man when a partisan ideologue begins with that one.
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Sorry Bubba, I responded to the strawman
To what straw man were you responding...Bubba?
Evidently you don't know what the term means, but give it a shot anyway.
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See post 148
Not within a mile of being a straw man.
You were called on your dishonesty, and you don't like it.
Too bad. Be honest. Use your own thoughts. Or not. I don't expect honesty from partisan ideologues.
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First of all, I adamantly oppose the unhinged libertarian ideology. The fact that you scream "libertarian" and "wingnutter" when faced with facts that are inconvenient for you and in direct conflict with your blind ideology speaks volumes.Nothing like ignoring facts for propaganda. $3 trillion. It's absolutely unfathomable and completely outrageous. I could easily run the federal government off of $1 trillion while paying down the national debt at the same time.
Weird there is NO state or nation to EVER try the libertarian garbage at ANYTIME successfully right?
$1.5+ trillion on SS (keeps almost half of seniors out of poverty) and Medicare in 2013. $1 trillion huh? lol
Wingnutter
Second, and much more importantly, the U.S. went from a fledgling colony to the world's premier super power over approximately 130 years through pure, unadulterated conservatism. We did not see the cancer known as liberalism/progressivism until roughly the early 1900's. And the only reason the U.S. has been able to withstand the ignorant liberal "spread the wealth" marxism/communism that completely collapsed other nations such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and the former U.S.S.R. is because we still manage to inject healthy doses of conservative policy (such as the Reagan tax cuts, the Reagan de-regulations, the Bush tax cuts, etc.). But sadly, all of that ignorant liberal policy has us $17 trillion in debt and climbing so I'm not sure how much longer we can hold on.
The facts are indisputable. A staggering $3 trillion in revenues to the federal government - the highest ever. And still the Obama Administration ran up half a trillion in debt. As always, history proves that the left's entire ideology is a failed ideology. Game. Set. Match. You lose junior.
I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
As Reagan always saiid, Congress controls spending. The Dems controlled Congress in those days.First of all, I adamantly oppose the unhinged libertarian ideology. The fact that you scream "libertarian" and "wingnutter" when faced with facts that are inconvenient for you and in direct conflict with your blind ideology speaks volumes.Nothing like ignoring facts for propaganda. $3 trillion. It's absolutely unfathomable and completely outrageous. I could easily run the federal government off of $1 trillion while paying down the national debt at the same time.Nothing like ignoring the fact that as a percentage of GDP, revenues are still significantly lower than they have been for the vast majority of the past 60 years.
Weird there is NO state or nation to EVER try the libertarian garbage at ANYTIME successfully right?
$1.5+ trillion on SS (keeps almost half of seniors out of poverty) and Medicare in 2013. $1 trillion huh? lol
Wingnutter
Second, and much more importantly, the U.S. went from a fledgling colony to the world's premier super power over approximately 130 years through pure, unadulterated conservatism. We did not see the cancer known as liberalism/progressivism until roughly the early 1900's. And the only reason the U.S. has been able to withstand the ignorant liberal "spread the wealth" marxism/communism that completely collapsed other nations such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and the former U.S.S.R. is because we still manage to inject healthy doses of conservative policy (such as the Reagan tax cuts, the Reagan de-regulations, the Bush tax cuts, etc.). But sadly, all of that ignorant liberal policy has us $17 trillion in debt and climbing so I'm not sure how much longer we can hold on.
The facts are indisputable. A staggering $3 trillion in revenues to the federal government - the highest ever. And still the Obama Administration ran up half a trillion in debt. As always, history proves that the left's entire ideology is a failed ideology. Game. Set. Match. You lose junior.
I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
You're full of shit. As usual.
First of all, I adamantly oppose the unhinged libertarian ideology. The fact that you scream "libertarian" and "wingnutter" when faced with facts that are inconvenient for you and in direct conflict with your blind ideology speaks volumes.Weird there is NO state or nation to EVER try the libertarian garbage at ANYTIME successfully right?
$1.5+ trillion on SS (keeps almost half of seniors out of poverty) and Medicare in 2013. $1 trillion huh? lol
Wingnutter
Second, and much more importantly, the U.S. went from a fledgling colony to the world's premier super power over approximately 130 years through pure, unadulterated conservatism. We did not see the cancer known as liberalism/progressivism until roughly the early 1900's. And the only reason the U.S. has been able to withstand the ignorant liberal "spread the wealth" marxism/communism that completely collapsed other nations such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and the former U.S.S.R. is because we still manage to inject healthy doses of conservative policy (such as the Reagan tax cuts, the Reagan de-regulations, the Bush tax cuts, etc.). But sadly, all of that ignorant liberal policy has us $17 trillion in debt and climbing so I'm not sure how much longer we can hold on.
The facts are indisputable. A staggering $3 trillion in revenues to the federal government - the highest ever. And still the Obama Administration ran up half a trillion in debt. As always, history proves that the left's entire ideology is a failed ideology. Game. Set. Match. You lose junior.
I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
Nobody does misinformation quite like the left...Republicans Explode Government
Obama is the first president since Carter to reduce the size of government. He has reduced government spending & employment. Republicans are chomping at the but to end sequestration when they take the senate so they can increase spending.
Republicans Explode Government
Republicans Explode Government
Republicans Explode Government
Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior" when that costs money for people to administrate that program - hence about half of what I put in is skimmed for the cost of the government jobs to run it? Why not just eliminate the middle-man, save my own money and enjoy 100% of my money as a senior?First of all, I adamantly oppose the unhinged libertarian ideology. The fact that you scream "libertarian" and "wingnutter" when faced with facts that are inconvenient for you and in direct conflict with your blind ideology speaks volumes.
Second, and much more importantly, the U.S. went from a fledgling colony to the world's premier super power over approximately 130 years through pure, unadulterated conservatism. We did not see the cancer known as liberalism/progressivism until roughly the early 1900's. And the only reason the U.S. has been able to withstand the ignorant liberal "spread the wealth" marxism/communism that completely collapsed other nations such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and the former U.S.S.R. is because we still manage to inject healthy doses of conservative policy (such as the Reagan tax cuts, the Reagan de-regulations, the Bush tax cuts, etc.). But sadly, all of that ignorant liberal policy has us $17 trillion in debt and climbing so I'm not sure how much longer we can hold on.
The facts are indisputable. A staggering $3 trillion in revenues to the federal government - the highest ever. And still the Obama Administration ran up half a trillion in debt. As always, history proves that the left's entire ideology is a failed ideology. Game. Set. Match. You lose junior.
I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ... gee.
people paying into a program that provides them some income when they become seniors OR people paying taxes to prop up a war and they get dumbasses like you telling them how much better off they are ...
tough decision indeed ... the country has decided RW's are brain dead morons.
Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior" when that costs money for people to administrate that program - hence about half of what I put in is skimmed for the cost of the government jobs to run it? Why not just eliminate the middle-man, save my own money and enjoy 100% of my money as a senior?I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ... gee.
people paying into a program that provides them some income when they become seniors OR people paying taxes to prop up a war and they get dumbasses like you telling them how much better off they are ...
tough decision indeed ... the country has decided RW's are brain dead morons.
Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior" when that costs money for people to administrate that program - hence about half of what I put in is skimmed for the cost of the government jobs to run it? Why not just eliminate the middle-man, save my own money and enjoy 100% of my money as a senior?I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ... gee.
people paying into a program that provides them some income when they become seniors OR people paying taxes to prop up a war and they get dumbasses like you telling them how much better off they are ...
tough decision indeed ... the country has decided RW's are brain dead morons.
Nobody does misinformation quite like the left...Republicans Explode Government
Obama is the first president since Carter to reduce the size of government. He has reduced government spending & employment. Republicans are chomping at the but to end sequestration when they take the senate so they can increase spending.
Republicans Explode Government
Republicans Explode Government
Republicans Explode Government
Since the beginning of the last recession (December 2007) the private sector workforce has shrunk by 6.6% while shedding more than 7.5 million jobs. Over that same time period, the federal government workforce (excluding Census and Postal workers) has grown by 11.7% while adding 230,000 jobs.
Federal Workforce Continues to Grow Under Obama Budget
(Psst...by the way junior, the expansion of the federal government under Jimmy Carter was one of the largest in U.S. history. The only thing Jimmy Carter cut was defense - and that's not helpful at all).
Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior" when that costs money for people to administrate that program - hence about half of what I put in is skimmed for the cost of the government jobs to run it? Why not just eliminate the middle-man, save my own money and enjoy 100% of my money as a senior?I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ... gee.
people paying into a program that provides them some income when they become seniors OR people paying taxes to prop up a war and they get dumbasses like you telling them how much better off they are ...
tough decision indeed ... the country has decided RW's are brain dead morons.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year.
First of all, I adamantly oppose the unhinged libertarian ideology. The fact that you scream "libertarian" and "wingnutter" when faced with facts that are inconvenient for you and in direct conflict with your blind ideology speaks volumes.Weird there is NO state or nation to EVER try the libertarian garbage at ANYTIME successfully right?
$1.5+ trillion on SS (keeps almost half of seniors out of poverty) and Medicare in 2013. $1 trillion huh? lol
Wingnutter
Second, and much more importantly, the U.S. went from a fledgling colony to the world's premier super power over approximately 130 years through pure, unadulterated conservatism. We did not see the cancer known as liberalism/progressivism until roughly the early 1900's. And the only reason the U.S. has been able to withstand the ignorant liberal "spread the wealth" marxism/communism that completely collapsed other nations such as Cambodia, Vietnam, and the former U.S.S.R. is because we still manage to inject healthy doses of conservative policy (such as the Reagan tax cuts, the Reagan de-regulations, the Bush tax cuts, etc.). But sadly, all of that ignorant liberal policy has us $17 trillion in debt and climbing so I'm not sure how much longer we can hold on.
The facts are indisputable. A staggering $3 trillion in revenues to the federal government - the highest ever. And still the Obama Administration ran up half a trillion in debt. As always, history proves that the left's entire ideology is a failed ideology. Game. Set. Match. You lose junior.
I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
Nobody does misinformation quite like the left...Republicans Explode Government
Obama is the first president since Carter to reduce the size of government. He has reduced government spending & employment. Republicans are chomping at the but to end sequestration when they take the senate so they can increase spending.
Republicans Explode Government
Republicans Explode Government
Republicans Explode Government
Since the beginning of the last recession (December 2007) the private sector workforce has shrunk by 6.6% while shedding more than 7.5 million jobs. Over that same time period, the federal government workforce (excluding Census and Postal workers) has grown by 11.7% while adding 230,000 jobs.
Federal Workforce Continues to Grow Under Obama Budget
(Psst...by the way junior, the expansion of the federal government under Jimmy Carter was one of the largest in U.S. history. The only thing Jimmy Carter cut was defense - and that's not helpful at all).
Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior" when that costs money for people to administrate that program - hence about half of what I put in is skimmed for the cost of the government jobs to run it? Why not just eliminate the middle-man, save my own money and enjoy 100% of my money as a senior?I'm just curious as to why conservatives didn't scream bloody murder when Reagan was seeing revenues significantly higher than we have today. Revenues as a percentage of GDP ran almost 13% more during Reagan's eight years in office than during the past six years under Obama. You cons are so full of shit because you bitch about the stupidest shit not even knowing what you are talking about. Reagan was the great conservative but he presided over an administration that saw substantially higher revenues and just slightly lower outlays. Under Reagan, average yearly outlays were 21.75 percent of GDP. Under Obama, outlays have been 22.5% of GDP, and Obama is dealing with an aging population and increased spending on SS and Medicare. Again, it is so simple to see that you have no clue what you are talking about.
BTW, Defense spending, along with SS and Medicare come to almost $2 trillion. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ... gee.
people paying into a program that provides them some income when they become seniors OR people paying taxes to prop up a war and they get dumbasses like you telling them how much better off they are ...
tough decision indeed ... the country has decided RW's are brain dead morons.
Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior" when that costs money for people to administrate that program - hence about half of what I put in is skimmed for the cost of the government jobs to run it? Why not just eliminate the middle-man, save my own money and enjoy 100% of my money as a senior?Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ... gee.
people paying into a program that provides them some income when they become seniors OR people paying taxes to prop up a war and they get dumbasses like you telling them how much better off they are ...
tough decision indeed ... the country has decided RW's are brain dead morons.
"Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior""
Because you are to stupid to do it otherwise?
I rest my case your honor... the left is not only arrogant ("you people need me to think for you"), but they can't construct an intelligent argument to support their very irrational position.Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior" when that costs money for people to administrate that program - hence about half of what I put in is skimmed for the cost of the government jobs to run it? Why not just eliminate the middle-man, save my own money and enjoy 100% of my money as a senior?Defense spending is $550 billion per year. Absolutely nothing. It's the Dumbocrat Social Security program and the Dumbocrat Medicare program which cost the other $1.5 trillion. Oops...looks like you at the one who has no clue what he is talking about. And since both of those are unconstitutional (the federal government simply had no authority to take money from people for social programs - period), it once again illustrates the failures of liberal policy and liberal ideology.
Would you like to try again junior?
bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ... gee.
people paying into a program that provides them some income when they become seniors OR people paying taxes to prop up a war and they get dumbasses like you telling them how much better off they are ...
tough decision indeed ... the country has decided RW's are brain dead morons.
"Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior""
Because you are to stupid to do it otherwise?
Auditor, do you really not see the absurdity of your position? You're treating all people like children. Which means you have a very smug, arrogant view of yourself. If you don't force people into your view of utopia, they won't be able to make it on their own. That's basically your position - and it's equal parts absurd and appalling.Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior" when that costs money for people to administrate that program - hence about half of what I put in is skimmed for the cost of the government jobs to run it? Why not just eliminate the middle-man, save my own money and enjoy 100% of my money as a senior?bullshit .. we have spent almost 1TRILLION $$$ in the mid east you idiot. Apparently that's not enough either, the RW's are chanting "BOOTS" as we speak ..
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ready-for-boots-on-the-ground-in-
when it boils down to being broke ANYTHING the RW's spend of the military is TOO much, either that or we're not broke like they want everyone to believe
The annual defense budget is $550 billion chief. You may want to do your homework before wildly posting emotional nonsense that strips you of any credibility in the future.
The "$1 trillion" you cite is since 9/11. That was 13 years ago. At $550 billion per year over 13 years you get $7.1 trillion. So basically, we've properly spent about 1/7th of our budgeted dollars on a constitutional responsibility of the federal government in the Middle East.
In that same time, we've spent $19.5 trillion on two failed Dumbocrat programs which are unconstitutional (or $18 trillion more than we spent on defending this nation). Mmmm... a constitutional $1 trillion over 13 years to keep us free or an unconstitutional $19.5 trillion over 13 years to encourage people not to hold jobs but instead to live off of the government plantation as good little servants.
Gee...this is a tough decision. Which one is better for America? If only liberals utilized sound analytical thought as opposed to emotion for their decision making process!
you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ... gee.
people paying into a program that provides them some income when they become seniors OR people paying taxes to prop up a war and they get dumbasses like you telling them how much better off they are ...
tough decision indeed ... the country has decided RW's are brain dead morons.
"Tell me junior, why do I need government to force me into a program that is supposed to "provide me with some income when I'm a senior""
Because you are to stupid to do it otherwise?
Some people would do fine without SS and Medicare. The problem is that there are many who would not save what they needed to for retirement, and then we would have tens of millions of retirees with no income at all, along with no health coverage. Can you imagine the disaster that would create? Government would then have to find a way to support all those people because leaving them to rot in the street would not be acceptable. Doing so would turn the US into a third world country. Unfortunately, most cons do not understand or they just do not care about the welfare of society as a whole, so long as they are doing fine. The problem is that even they would pay a huge price if their policies were put fully into place.
