We freed Iraq from "Saddam". Who will free us from "Corporations"?

[konradv]

No they don't. You haven't heard of Citizen's United? You can give anything you want to a PAC. If you think there's no communication between them and candidates, I have a bridge to sell you.

Yes Citizens United is a first amendement decision about a movie.

Incorporation doesn't trump my right to free speech in print or airwaves.

It does trump the notion that we all have an equal voice. The goodies go to those who pay the bills and they can be quite expensive. Support public financing of elections. It'll cost us less in the long run and put a crack in the Rep/Dem duopoly.

 

[PredFan]

I don't want to be freed from corporations. I like mine just fine. It pays me well, provides health insurance and retirement bennies.

And they buy Congressional votes to keep it that way! Easier than working, right?

wtf are you talkiing about? Do you even know?

 

[OODA_Loop]

It does trump the notion that we all have an equal voice. The goodies go to those who pay the bills and they can be quite expensive. Support public financing of elections. It'll cost us less in the long run and put a crack in the Rep/Dem duopoly.

You do have an equal voice its called a ballot. Every eligible person has one.

Movies, ads and commercials are free speech. Period.

 

[konradv]

I don't want to be freed from corporations. I like mine just fine. It pays me well, provides health insurance and retirement bennies.

And they buy Congressional votes to keep it that way! Easier than working, right?

wtf are you talkiing about? Do you even know?

Yeah, the way corporations, and other entities like unions, buy the votes of our representitives with campaign contributions.

 

[konradv]

It does trump the notion that we all have an equal voice. The goodies go to those who pay the bills and they can be quite expensive. Support public financing of elections. It'll cost us less in the long run and put a crack in the Rep/Dem duopoly.

You do have an equal voice its called a ballot. Every eligible person has one.

Movies, ads and commercials are free speech. Period.

Speech isn't free. That's your first mistake. It takes lots of bucks and those giving it expect something in return.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Speech isn't free. That's your first mistake. It takes lots of bucks and those giving it expect something in return.

Expecting something or results in return for political support is the nature of politics.

 

[PredFan]

And they buy Congressional votes to keep it that way! Easier than working, right?

wtf are you talkiing about? Do you even know?

Yeah, the way corporations, and other entities like unions, buy the votes of our representitives with campaign contributions.

What did that have to do with my post?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

And who will free us from you Fabian Socialist parasites?

 

[Buford]

It does trump the notion that we all have an equal voice. The goodies go to those who pay the bills and they can be quite expensive. Support public financing of elections. It'll cost us less in the long run and put a crack in the Rep/Dem duopoly.

You do have an equal voice its called a ballot. Every eligible person has one.

Movies, ads and commercials are free speech. Period.

Speech isn't free. That's your first mistake. It takes lots of bucks and those giving it expect something in return.

I've never been paid for my vote. Have you?

 

[konradv]

Speech isn't free. That's your first mistake. It takes lots of bucks and those giving it expect something in return.

Expecting something or results in return for political support is the nature of politics.

So, if I give money to candidate in order to get special favors for my company, that's OK with you? I thought you'd be opposed to a Solyndra-type situation!

 

[konradv]

Outa here for now. My rep went down, so I know I scored.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Speech isn't free. That's your first mistake. It takes lots of bucks and those giving it expect something in return.

Expecting something or results in return for political support is the nature of politics.

So, if I give money to candidate in order to get special favors for my company, that's OK with you? I thought you'd be opposed to a Solyndra-type situation!

Nope giving money to a candidate is highly regulated and controlled, with limits and disclosure required by Federal law as pointed out previously.

 

[Avatar4321]

You do realize there is an easy way to be free of corporations, right? You just dont buy their products or services.

 

[P@triot]

In this country, the people with money win. Corporations want Republicans in office and the reason is clear. Remember, these are people who held millions of unemployed hostage to push tax cuts that benefited the rich.

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says - CSMonitor.com

Now that's from the Christian Science Monitor, not some left wing rag.

Take the BP "spill". Obama got 20 billion from BP to clean up their mess. Republicans apologized to BP and to show the sincerity of their apology, they blocked Obama from any investigation.

Subpoena power in BP oil spill investigation blocked by Senate Republicans

See what "less regulations" gets you?

Republican Donor Simmons Seeks Rule to Fill Texas Nuclear Waste Dump - Businessweek

Republicans say corporations are better than unions. Unions are fighting for benefits, retirement, health care. Corporations are fighting for dirty air and water, nuclear waste dumps, poison, birth defects. It has to be indoctrination that makes Republicans support such destructive policies.

The worst part of all, Republicans wanted the cost of the BP cleanup to be moved to the middle class. It's why they said corporations shouldn't have to pay for "accidents". Then who pays? If not those who created that "accident"?

Republican billionaires want laws that will limit what they have to pay for their disasters. USMB Republicans agree. They seem to believe that making people who harm the country pay for their damage IS the damage.

And you think you are safe? Think again:

Homeowners losers in high court ruling | Government free to take property at any time

In a scathing dissent, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said the decision bowed to the rich and powerful at the expense of middle-class Americans.

In dissent, O'Connor criticized the majority for abandoning the conservative principle of individual property rights and handing "disproportionate influence and power" to the well-heeled.

"The specter of condemnation hangs over all property," O'Connor wrote. "Nothing is to prevent the state from replacing any Motel 6 with a Ritz-Carlton, any home with a shopping mall, or any farm with a factory."

The swing vote was Reagan appointee Justice Anthony Kennedy.

If the average American lose the power to protect their country, then we've lost our liberty. Only Republicans aren't concerned with liberty lost to corporations. And that makes both Republicans and Corporations dangerous.

Hey, radical left-wing nut Communist/Marxist/Socialist - why don't you do it? Why do you save "us"? Start your own business, run it ethically, hire everyone for six-figures, and you will be the savior!

(Wait... what? What's that you say? You're too stupid to start your own business? Oh, and you're also too lazy you say? Ah, I see - it's easier for you to cry like a little bitch calling for Communism than to get off your ass and solve the problem yourself, uh? Got it!)

 

[P@triot]

I know none of you people read any of the links. I read the very few links right wingers provide because I do have an open mind. But I know bullshit when I read it. That's why I disagree with the right wing. Not because I like to be disagreeable, but because their policies are destructive. And look at the links. They aren't "crazy left wing" links. The Christian Science Monitor? Not left wing.
My opinion of most the USMB right wing is pathetic. And they enforce that opinion every day.

Hey, radical left-wing nut Communist/Marxist/Socialist - why don't you do it? Why do you save "us"? Start your own business, run it ethically, hire everyone for six-figures, and you will be the savior!

(Wait... what? What's that you say? You're too stupid to start your own business? Oh, and you're also too lazy you say? Ah, I see - it's easier for you to cry like a little bitch calling for Communism than to get off your ass and solve the problem yourself, uh? Got it!)

 

[Zxereus]

More like:

"We freed Iraq from Hussein, who will free America from Hussein ?"

 

[Harry Dresden]

I know none of you people read any of the links. I read the very few links right wingers provide because I do have an open mind. But I know bullshit when I read it. That's why I disagree with the right wing. Not because I like to be disagreeable, but because their policies are destructive. And look at the links. They aren't "crazy left wing" links. The Christian Science Monitor? Not left wing.
My opinion of most the USMB right wing is pathetic. And they enforce that opinion every day.

and the dishonest shit that you post enforces the opinion many here have of you....

 

[Harry Dresden]

rderp's thread headline equates American corporations with Saddam's regime.

But rderp thinks we should take his bullshit seriously and bother to read his links?

When American corporations put people into wood chippers, his analogy will have its very first hint of credibility. Until then, rderp remains a partisan hack cheap-ass useless propagandist without the first shred of integrity.

yep.....and he just cant figure out why he gets ridiculed....same with his Bro Chris and their Sister TM's.......

 

[P@triot]

More like:

"We freed Iraq from Hussein, who will free America from Hussein ?"

 

[Harry Dresden]

I don't know who will save you from the evul rich.

It sure as shit won't be the dnc, I know that for certain.

Rich people will stick together if push comes to shove....and i dont care what party they belong to.....