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I am in the top 1%.......especially in bathing, brushing my teeth and other forms of personal hygiene.No soap? You'll fit right in. Maybe this will help.....I don't think so. You can keep it. I am just fine where I am a measly 99%er.
Apply to nose.
You can keep it since you are so adverse to the 99%ers. I hope that makes you a 1 %er. If not you are pissin on yourself and sorely delusional.
In the very simplest terms you don't know what you're talking about. If you'd like to know what you're talking about you can acquire a very valuable education by watching a two hour video called, Inside Job.And have you yet learned that those corporations and banks don't reach into people's pockets and TAKE their money? People choose to utilize the services of banks and companies for their own convenience. People whine that the "silver spoons" have all the money, but refuse to recognize their own culpability in giving the money to the "silver spoons". Whether it be through our votes or who we choose to do business with, the American people have the ability to make a difference without turning into whining, sniveling, spoiled brats, demanding that everything be handed to us so that it will "be fair".
I'm a little lost so that your whole point?
Telling me something I already know? If thats the case you guys should pack up go home and find something to do.
Of course it's not the fault of folks who bought homes they could not afford who then did not pay.I have no problem with people protesting, but many of these feculent, vile sows are pissing and shitting in the streets, and going weeks without bathing.
Ok Zander Where did you get that info?
If anything I would think that shows a greater dedication to thier cause if it is even true.
Let's get off the cheap shots, heh? Were the nurses down there the other day in that state? How about the teachers? Are we losing objectivity here for the sake of Foxmindedness? How about a bit of fairness? Ya think you can throw a bunch of people out of their homes, lay them off then call them bums, call college students who graduated and can't find jobs irresposible cause they can't pay their student loans when they started school before the banks crapped all over themselves for their own misdeeds.
Come on now. We are not going to get out of this till we get honest. It ain't the people above's fault. I still get hammered every week with mail trying to get me to take out equity loans, credit card offer after credit offer ad nauseum. I can resist but when you got nothing sooner or later the temptation can catch you. Be real. The banks know all this and wait to pounce. They deserve all that they get.
Zander,I have no problem with people protesting, but many of these feculent, vile sows are pissing and shitting in the streets, and going weeks without bathing. If you are proud to be one, good for you.
[Emphasis added]Zander,I have no problem with people protesting, but many of these feculent, vile sows are pissing and shitting in the streets, and going weeks without bathing. If you are proud to be one, good for you.
While I agree it is a most unpleasant reality, that bit of urban real estate richly deserves to be pissed and shit on by those relatively few people whom the occupants of those offices have metaphorically been pissing and shitting on for decades.
At this time the best thing we can say about the situation is a little piss and shit on the streets is a lot better than a guillotine and blood running in the gutters. And if you think about the pissing and shitting on Wall Street in symbolic terms you might just agree with me.
Of course it's not the fault of folks who bought homes they could not afford who then did not pay.I have no problem with people protesting, but many of these feculent, vile sows are pissing and shitting in the streets, and going weeks without bathing.
Ok Zander Where did you get that info?
If anything I would think that shows a greater dedication to thier cause if it is even true.
Let's get off the cheap shots, heh? Were the nurses down there the other day in that state? How about the teachers? Are we losing objectivity here for the sake of Foxmindedness? How about a bit of fairness? Ya think you can throw a bunch of people out of their homes, lay them off then call them bums, call college students who graduated and can't find jobs irresposible cause they can't pay their student loans when they started school before the banks crapped all over themselves for their own misdeeds.
Come on now. We are not going to get out of this till we get honest. It ain't the people above's fault. I still get hammered every week with mail trying to get me to take out equity loans, credit card offer after credit offer ad nauseum. I can resist but when you got nothing sooner or later the temptation can catch you. Be real. The banks know all this and wait to pounce. They deserve all that they get.
It's not the fault of a person who took out a loan who cannot pay back that loan upon graduation.
I'm sorry, I will NEVER agree with those sentiments. Unless someone held a gun to the borrower's head to borrow money, they made a free choice TO borrow that money. They also were well aware that borrowing that money meant it wasn't THEIR money and they could not keep that money without ramifications.
It's a personal accountability thing.
If they did not know the terms of the document they signed, then that is their problem. It was not their money, they borrowed it, and they agreed to pay it back and they agreed to the terms to pay it back.Of course it's not the fault of folks who bought homes they could not afford who then did not pay.I have no problem with people protesting, but many of these feculent, vile sows are pissing and shitting in the streets, and going weeks without bathing.
Ok Zander Where did you get that info?
If anything I would think that shows a greater dedication to thier cause if it is even true.
Let's get off the cheap shots, heh? Were the nurses down there the other day in that state? How about the teachers? Are we losing objectivity here for the sake of Foxmindedness? How about a bit of fairness? Ya think you can throw a bunch of people out of their homes, lay them off then call them bums, call college students who graduated and can't find jobs irresposible cause they can't pay their student loans when they started school before the banks crapped all over themselves for their own misdeeds.
Come on now. We are not going to get out of this till we get honest. It ain't the people above's fault. I still get hammered every week with mail trying to get me to take out equity loans, credit card offer after credit offer ad nauseum. I can resist but when you got nothing sooner or later the temptation can catch you. Be real. The banks know all this and wait to pounce. They deserve all that they get.
It's not the fault of a person who took out a loan who cannot pay back that loan upon graduation.
I'm sorry, I will NEVER agree with those sentiments. Unless someone held a gun to the borrower's head to borrow money, they made a free choice TO borrow that money. They also were well aware that borrowing that money meant it wasn't THEIR money and they could not keep that money without ramifications.
It's a personal accountability thing.
Do you mean after they got laid off or when the balloon payments hit after they got laid off after the bank's manufactured bubble burst. And was that based on payments that were hyperinflated due to a false sense of home value based on that self same bubble that the banks created? Were they not creating a farcical sense of housing demand based on trading of fictitional financial instruments that created a demand not for the houses that they purportedly represented but only a demand for the farcical financial instruments. Same as they have been doing with oil for the last 7 years or so.
If they did not know the terms of the document they signed, then that is their problem. It was not their money, they borrowed it, and they agreed to pay it back and they agreed to the terms to pay it back.Of course it's not the fault of folks who bought homes they could not afford who then did not pay.
It's not the fault of a person who took out a loan who cannot pay back that loan upon graduation.
I'm sorry, I will NEVER agree with those sentiments. Unless someone held a gun to the borrower's head to borrow money, they made a free choice TO borrow that money. They also were well aware that borrowing that money meant it wasn't THEIR money and they could not keep that money without ramifications.
It's a personal accountability thing.
Do you mean after they got laid off or when the balloon payments hit after they got laid off after the bank's manufactured bubble burst. And was that based on payments that were hyperinflated due to a false sense of home value based on that self same bubble that the banks created? Were they not creating a farcical sense of housing demand based on trading of fictitional financial instruments that created a demand not for the houses that they purportedly represented but only a demand for the farcical financial instruments. Same as they have been doing with oil for the last 7 years or so.
They could have rented, as they should have, but they freely choose to take the money of another, with terms, and when they could not meet those terms with money, the property which secured the loan was seized.
Personal accountability.
It's a simple concept.
Just tell us what you plan to replace capitalism with.
This is not about replacing capitalism. The economic meltdown had nothing to do with capitalism, only cronyism and corruption. I think liberals and conservatives can both agree on that point. This is about putting the power of representation back into the people's hands.
Don't get me wrong, liberals and conservatives will still tear each other's throats out in the future, but hopefully without someone stealing from us both while we do it.
You can fuck off with the "99%" crap then. You are not the 99%. You aren't even .0001%. Get a fucking job. Pay your own way.
But that apparently wasn't the case: "So far no one has uncovered evidence that banks kicked nondelinquent borrowers out of their homes, ...."If they did not know the terms of the document they signed, then that is their problem. It was not their money, they borrowed it, and they agreed to pay it back and they agreed to the terms to pay it back.Do you mean after they got laid off or when the balloon payments hit after they got laid off after the bank's manufactured bubble burst. And was that based on payments that were hyperinflated due to a false sense of home value based on that self same bubble that the banks created? Were they not creating a farcical sense of housing demand based on trading of fictitional financial instruments that created a demand not for the houses that they purportedly represented but only a demand for the farcical financial instruments. Same as they have been doing with oil for the last 7 years or so.
They could have rented, as they should have, but they freely choose to take the money of another, with terms, and when they could not meet those terms with money, the property which secured the loan was seized.
Personal accountability.
It's a simple concept.
From what I saw they were meeting the terms till the banks went bust cause they could no longer get away with their farce to keep their ponzi scheme doing. Then the layoffs came.
But that apparently wasn't the case: "So far no one has uncovered evidence that banks kicked nondelinquent borrowers out of their homes, ...."If they did not know the terms of the document they signed, then that is their problem. It was not their money, they borrowed it, and they agreed to pay it back and they agreed to the terms to pay it back.
They could have rented, as they should have, but they freely choose to take the money of another, with terms, and when they could not meet those terms with money, the property which secured the loan was seized.
Personal accountability.
It's a simple concept.
From what I saw they were meeting the terms till the banks went bust cause they could no longer get away with their farce to keep their ponzi scheme doing. Then the layoffs came.
Review & Outlook: A Real Robo-Signing Scandal - WSJ.com
It appears as if someone is telling you fibs.
Since when is it amoral to demand that your property be returned to you?But that apparently wasn't the case: "So far no one has uncovered evidence that banks kicked nondelinquent borrowers out of their homes, ...."From what I saw they were meeting the terms till the banks went bust cause they could no longer get away with their farce to keep their ponzi scheme doing. Then the layoffs came.
Review & Outlook: A Real Robo-Signing Scandal - WSJ.com
It appears as if someone is telling you fibs.
They lost moral ground to kick anyone out of their house. PERIOD. They have no moral ground they have shown themselves utterly corrupt and polluted.
I probably will get flamed for this, but I am begging everyone of this board to at least consider the merits of OWS (Occupy Wall Street). What we have seen for quite some time now is the purposeful division of our society along very few issues. (Gun control, gay marriage, abortion, etc.) At the same time, we have seen the Treasury gutted, our Civil Liberties curtailed, and the normalization of a permanent state of war.
It doesn't matter which vetted politician is in charge, (Obama, Bush, Clinton) we get tossed to the side all the same. Both Bush and Obama bailed out the banks. Obama continues to throw the Bill of Rights out the window.
I am sure everyone knows that the laundry list of problems looks endless, but we must recognize that a many faced monster turns us against each other while reaching into our pocketbooks. These few that attempt to steer hatred of our fellow citizens into our lives have no political agenda, they are only concerned about their own gain, and they win every time a liberal calls a conservative a fascist or a tea bagger, or a conservative calls a liberal a hippie or a commie. These people that we are dealing with at the top are political chameleons who have no interest in the survival of the nation, only the endurance of their egos and pride.
Long live the Republic.
Occupy Wall Street | NYC Protest for American Revolution
Since when is it amoral to demand that your property be returned to you?But that apparently wasn't the case: "So far no one has uncovered evidence that banks kicked nondelinquent borrowers out of their homes, ...."
Review & Outlook: A Real Robo-Signing Scandal - WSJ.com
It appears as if someone is telling you fibs.
They lost moral ground to kick anyone out of their house. PERIOD. They have no moral ground they have shown themselves utterly corrupt and polluted.
Of course it was their property. The borrowers who were in default had a choice to return the money they took, or trade that for their home.Since when is it amoral to demand that your property be returned to you?They lost moral ground to kick anyone out of their house. PERIOD. They have no moral ground they have shown themselves utterly corrupt and polluted.
It wasn't their property any more. They sliced and diced it into so many financial instruments they didn't have clue who owned it anymore. Sold it and resold it again. Made such a mockery of the financial system. It nearly collapsed except we had to unwillingly shoulder the burden. So the proeprty is our property and I vote to give it back to the occupants.
