Warning: Gravity is "Only a Theory"

[Quasar44]

I'd like a Nickel for every Religionist who says 'Evolution is only a theory'. Not knowing Science does Not use 'Theory' for mere Conjecture but for a well documented set of facts.
The board is polluted with alot of these Literalists and 7-Eleven Adventists who know Zero about science.

Warning: Gravity is "Only a Theory"
by Ellery Schempp
Gravity: It's Only a Theory | NCSE

All physics textbooks should include this warning label:

“This textbook contains material on Gravity. Universal Gravity is a theory, Not a fact, regarding the natural law of attraction. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered.”​

The Universal Theory of Gravity is often taught in schools as a “fact,” when in fact it is not even a good theory.

First of all, no one has measured gravity for every atom and every star. It is simply a religious belief that it is “universal.” Secondly, school textbooks routinely make false statements. For example, “the moon goes around the earth.” If the theory of gravity were true, it would show that the sun's gravitational force on the moon is much stronger than the earth's gravitational force on the moon, so the moon would go around the sun. Anybody can look up at night and see the obvious gaps in gravity theory.

The existence of tides is often taken as a proof of gravity, but this is logically flawed. Because if the moon's “gravity” were responsible for a bulge underneath it, then how can anyone explain a high tide on the opposite side of the earth at the same time? Anyone can observe that there are 2 -- not 1 -- high tides every day. It is far more likely that tides were given us by an Intelligent Creator long ago and they have been with us ever since. In any case, two high tides falsifies gravity.
[...... Big snip........]
It is not even clear why we need a theory of gravity -- there is not a single mention in the Bible, and the patriotic founding fathers never referred to it.

Finally, the mere name “Universal Theory of Gravity” or “Theory of Universal Gravity” (the secularists like to use confusing language) has a distinctly Socialist ring to it. The core idea of “to each according to his weight, from each according to his mass” is Communist. There is no reason that gravity should apply to the just and the unjust equally, and the saved should have relief from such “universalism.” If we have Universal Gravity now, then Universal health care will be sure to follow. It is this kind of Universalism that saps a nation's moral fiber.

Overall, the Theory of Universal Gravity is just not an attractive theory. It is based on borderline evidence, has many serious gaps in what it claims to explain, is clearly wrong in important respects, and has social and moral deficiencies. If taught in the public schools, by mis-directed “educators,” it has to be balanced with alternative, more attractive theories with genuine gravamen and spiritual gravitas.​

`

Gravity is as fact as anything
Wow are you an ignoramus

 

[Quasar44]

Go jump off a ladder . Please don’t
You’re falling down to the center of the earth but are stopped by the ground
Gravity is simply massive dents in time /space by the mass of celestial bodies

 

[abu afak]

Gravity is as fact as anything
Wow are you an ignoramus

Gravity and Evolution are BOTH facts and Theories.
I suggest you look up the definition of "Scientific Theory," not just 'theory.'
Ok Male Bimbo?
`

 

[Quasar44]

Gravity is as fact as anything
Wow are you an ignoramus

Gravity and Evolution are BOTH facts and Theories.
I suggest you look up the definition of "Scientific Theory," not just 'theory.'
Ok Male Bimbo?
`

It’s a fact
What century are you living in

 

[abu afak]

It’s a fact
What century are you living in

Things can be facts AND theories.
What 2-digit IQ world do you live in.
I assumed you at least looked up 'scientific theory' and got self-porked, jackass.
Gameover braindead
`

 

[Quasar44]

It’s a fact
What century are you living in

Things can be facts AND theories.
What 2-digit IQ world do you live in.
I assumed you at least looked up 'scientific theory' and got self-porked, jackass.
Gameover braindead
`

Theory is fact in modern terms
Hypothesis is not
Einstein’s General Relatively solved all the details of gravity

 

[abu afak]

Theory is fact in modern terms
Hypothesis is not
Einstein’s General Relatively solved all the details of gravity

There are no "Hypotheses" on the table.
Irrelevant drivel.

Is Gravity a Theory or a Law? | The Happy Scientist

I frequently get emails wanting to know whether gravity is a law or a theory. That question brings up so many more questions that I thought it would be fun to explore. To try this, you will need: - an object to drop. OK, pick an object that will not break, dent the floor, cause a mess, or get...

thehappyscientist.com

" So when we are scientifically discussing gravity, we can talk about the law of gravity that describes the attraction between two objects,
and we can also talk about the theory of gravity that describes why the objects attract each other.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Einstein’s General Relatively solved all the details of gravity

Not quite yet.

 

[james bond]

Gravity is as fact as anything
Wow are you an ignoramus

Gravity and Evolution are BOTH facts and Theories.
I suggest you look up the definition of "Scientific Theory," not just 'theory.'
Ok Male Bimbo?
`

Stop trying to act like you know science.

Evolution is a lie except for natural selection which creation science has. Gravity has not been explained to satisfaction, but has the law of gravity or Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. Gravity is also a theory and not a fact. You are wrong again. The energy associated with the gravitational force is negative, while the energy associated with most ordinary objects (baseballs, cars, elevators, you, etc.) is positive. It is possible for these positive and negative energies to cancel, resulting in zero net energy.

 

[Quasar44]

Gravity is as fact as anything
Wow are you an ignoramus

Gravity and Evolution are BOTH facts and Theories.
I suggest you look up the definition of "Scientific Theory," not just 'theory.'
Ok Male Bimbo?
`

Stop trying to act like you know science.

Evolution is a lie except for natural selection which creation science has. Gravity has not been explained to satisfaction, but has the law of gravity or Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. Gravity is also a theory and not a fact. You are wrong again. The energy associated with the gravitational force is negative, while the energy associated with most ordinary objects (baseballs, cars, elevators, you, etc.) is positive. It is possible for these positive and negative energies to cancel, resulting in zero net energy.

You are a Science illiterate !!!

 

[LittleNipper]

Obviously, we should ALL know that there is this force that holds us on this planet; HOWEVER, how this occurs and why it happens is still very much simply a theory. And a theory is pretty much a philosophical exercise that is held by some religiously and by others indifferently.

Individuality of every living thing goes without saying; however, the belief that biological organisms have progressively become less specialized an more complexity is not provable. Adaptability does not prove advancement.

 

[Quasar44]

You 4th grade drop out

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolution and gravity are both facts. Theories are about searching for what is true regarding their effects and how they work in the universe.

The overall Theory of Gravity attempts to use physical laws to explain the observations. We can now safely say that the fundamental idea of General Relativity is true.

The overall Theory of Evolution attempts to use physical laws to explain the observations. We can now safely say the fundamental idea of the Theory of Evolution is true.

 

[Quasar44]

Gravity is the warped fabric of space and time

 

[ReinyDays]

Sorry I'm late for dinner ... so maybe this has been covered already ...

The OP should probably learn the theory of gravity before they condemn it ... his understanding of tidal forces is so completely backwards as to be laughable ...

Gravity is a pseudo force ... an apparition of our frame-of-reference ... the Moon moves in a perfectly straight line, and does not curve in it's motion through space ... the amount of evidence for this fact is overwhelming and undeniable ... we proved this 100 years ago, and demonstrated it 200 years ago ... the OP's fixation on 18th Century science is best dismissed ... many many folks one hell of a lot smarter than all of us put together figured this out ... but if the OP can take Wassermann/Einstein (1915) and point to where the error is, I'd be happy to reconsider, and I promise not to rush into publication and grab that Nobel Prize for myself ...

TimeSpace is a non-Euclidean manifold ... which is fancy-pants scienticy lingo for the fact that it is space that is curved ... thus the appearance of orbits ... strictly a matter of our frame-of-reference here on Earth ...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sorry I'm late for dinner ... so maybe this has been covered already ...

The OP should probably learn the theory of gravity before they condemn it ... his understanding of tidal forces is so completely backwards as to be laughable ...

Gravity is a pseudo force ... an apparition of our frame-of-reference ... the Moon moves in a perfectly straight line, and does not curve in it's motion through space ... the amount of evidence for this fact is overwhelming and undeniable ... we proved this 100 years ago, and demonstrated it 200 years ago ... the OP's fixation on 18th Century science is best dismissed ... many many folks one hell of a lot smarter than all of us put together figured this out ... but if the OP can take Wassermann/Einstein (1915) and point to where the error is, I'd be happy to reconsider, and I promise not to rush into publication and grab that Nobel Prize for myself ...

TimeSpace is a non-Euclidean manifold ... which is fancy-pants scienticy lingo for the fact that it is space that is curved ... thus the appearance of orbits ... strictly a matter of our frame-of-reference here on Earth ...

And yet the search for the particles that impart the force of gravity continues (gravitons), as well as the debate over their existence.

 

[ReinyDays]

And yet the search for the particles that impart the force of gravity continues (gravitons), as well as the debate over their existence.

Pseudo particles ... we can treat them as particles as long as we remember they aren't actual particles ... I think it's too early to flush the entirety of QM down the toilet ... we will someday, but after we divine Universal Field Theory ... the problem is lazy ass physicists milking the time clock ... "we'll get it someday, but today we need a raise" ...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Pseudo particles ... we can treat them as particles as long as we remember they aren't actual particles

That is one facet of the debate. And it is not settled, so your confidence is...curious. No, they may very well be actual "particles", as real as any other.

 

[Dagosa]

I'd like a Nickel for every Religionist who says 'Evolution is only a theory'. Not knowing Science does Not use 'Theory' for mere Conjecture but for a well documented set of facts.
The board is polluted with alot of these Literalists and 7-Eleven Adventists who know Zero about science.

Warning: Gravity is "Only a Theory"
by Ellery Schempp
Gravity: It's Only a Theory | NCSE

All physics textbooks should include this warning label:​

​

“This textbook contains material on Gravity. Universal Gravity is a theory, Not a fact, regarding the natural law of attraction. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered.”​

​

The Universal Theory of Gravity is often taught in schools as a “fact,” when in fact it is not even a good theory.​

​

First of all, no one has measured gravity for every atom and every star. It is simply a religious belief that it is “universal.” Secondly, school textbooks routinely make false statements. For example, “the moon goes around the earth.” If the theory of gravity were true, it would show that the sun's gravitational force on the moon is much stronger than the earth's gravitational force on the moon, so the moon would go around the sun. Anybody can look up at night and see the obvious gaps in gravity theory.​

​

The existence of tides is often taken as a proof of gravity, but this is logically flawed. Because if the moon's “gravity” were responsible for a bulge underneath it, then how can anyone explain a high tide on the opposite side of the earth at the same time? Anyone can observe that there are 2 -- not 1 -- high tides every day. It is far more likely that tides were given us by an Intelligent Creator long ago and they have been with us ever since. In any case, two high tides falsifies gravity.​

[...... Big snip........]​

It is not even clear why we need a theory of gravity -- there is not a single mention in the Bible, and the patriotic founding fathers never referred to it.​

​

Finally, the mere name “Universal Theory of Gravity” or “Theory of Universal Gravity” (the secularists like to use confusing language) has a distinctly Socialist ring to it. The core idea of “to each according to his weight, from each according to his mass” is Communist. There is no reason that gravity should apply to the just and the unjust equally, and the saved should have relief from such “universalism.” If we have Universal Gravity now, then Universal health care will be sure to follow. It is this kind of Universalism that saps a nation's moral fiber.​

​

Overall, the Theory of Universal Gravity is just not an attractive theory. It is based on borderline evidence, has many serious gaps in what it claims to explain, is clearly wrong in important respects, and has social and moral deficiencies. If taught in the public schools, by mis-directed “educators,” it has to be balanced with alternative, more attractive theories with genuine gravamen and spiritual gravitas.​

`

Gravity is as fact as you breath in oxygen to stay alive
Go jump off a mountain and test it

This is a continual silly debate. Gravity, like evolution occurs and the EVIDENCE of each is observable. These are observable facts. How and why they occur along with other corollaries, is all theory.

Newton had his laws of gravity on the macro level but no where did he attempt To explain why it happens and it’s affects on other observations. That’s where theory comes in.

for example, under certain conditions, liquid under gravitational free fall from behaves differently in a vacuum then in atmosphere. These are observable facts. In theory, molten metal should behave similarly. We used this theory to develope near perfect cylindrical ball bearings for inertia guidance systems which was a huge military advantage. But it’s still a theoretical Understanding because on another level, even that isn’t entirely true.


too many if use are confused by high school geometry where we in a closed system proving theorems. Math is a language use EVERYWHERE. But technically, It’s not science anymore then the English language is. Don’t confuse the two. Math may be the language of science, but theorems are not theories.
The why and how is THEORY. The observed evidence of a topic are facts. Don't confuse the two.

 

[22lcidw]

There are reasons for gravity. Is the rotation of something on an individual on the cause of gravity? Or part of the cause? The Earth rotates. We see plans for space craft/stations that rotate and cause gravity.